Goblins 2: The Wreckin'-ing! (Inactive)

Game Master Dave Young 992

Velag:

Do we have a name, yet? I thought BTVK might work, but if you say it as a word fast...

bt-vk. nah...

"Full-growed-goblin-group A-dolts Only!"

Efesti all the way.
Anyways can I take Pihrana Strike? It's like power attack but for light weapons only. Looks like fun.
Rolling for Hit points: 1d8 ⇒ 7

Velag's feeling lucky... Rolling for hp: 1d8 ⇒ 5

... or I could just have taken 5 in the first place. :)

Efesti all the way.

Anyways can I take Pihrana Strike? It's like power attack but for light weapons only. Looks like fun.
Rolling for Hit points: 1d8

Sure. You qualify. Nice roll, too.

I usually roll crap. 1d8 ⇒ 2 See?

Right, so, picked up 2-weapon as my feat, learned ear-splitting scream and disrupt undead, and took the standard action to load my variable teamwork feat slot with Precise Strike (yay for solo tactics!).

Now I just need to teach badbait to stand next to monsters for me. :)

Learned some social skills, the rest of the knowledge skills that are class, and of course, increased perception and stealth.

Other than the coin, I should be good for L3.

OH, wait, forgot to lose my buckler. Fixing that now.

Tark has already been actively spreading the So Tough Licktoads of Doom. He also believed Gutwad would like the name since it helps to promote the clan -- at least that is what he explained to Gutwad on the last opportunity he had to meet him.

DM: What are your rules for HP's at each level? I can't remember if we roll or just take half? I see I took 5 hp at level 2, so I don't know if I rolled that or took half?

d6=4, d8=5, d10=6, or you can roll, if you feel lucky. If you took "average" at last level, you should have gotten 6.

Okay thanks. Yes, I will always take average. I learnt a long time ago that HP dice hate me.

We don't really need any name for the party. This isn't Forgotten Realms. lol

* succubus not human...
Klepy ~ you forgot +1 size bonus to hit, so yes +10

Edit: Sorry if that was bad form. But I've been enjoying reading of the heroic goblins. :)

* succubus not human...

Klepy ~ you forgot +1 size bonus to hit, so yes +10

Edit: Sorry if that was bad form. But I've been enjoying reading of the heroic goblins. :)

I forgot, too. MY bad!

I really like the humorous aspect. So many campaigns are like: "Wouldst thou care to dine with the queen, m'lord? T'would advance thine holdings in Hogsfordipswitchworchestertrentonstratford-uponavonshire."

Nothing wrong with that, but these guys are SO not that...

I am happy to say that in the game I'm playing Goblin is high on the list for many people to learn. My character already does. :)

And we adopted a Licktoad goblin....

Treasure!

One of the best things in the game, if not THE best. How do goblins get level-appropriate treasure? Not living in cities, and not being particularly magical, goblins with PC levels of treasure would be unheard of in an internally-consistent human-centric game world.

My thoughts are that being under-looted is unfair to players, but we're not in Abasalom. Goblin economies aren't like human ones.

It may take a few levels before you can actually trade for magic items, but it has to happen eventually. I'm not the sort of GM who would keep a character from getting what he really wants. Be patient, goblins, and trust that your WBL will be right in time.

It's a lot of work to keep track of wealth, and I don't want to do it. If you're way behind in what you should have treasure-wise, let me know in this thread, and I'll work to rectify the situation in a fair (and hopefully fun) way.

And we adopted a Licktoad goblin....

"Hey! You takeses one of us tribe! Give back, or me judge you, nasty-nasty!"

I assume that we wouldn't come upon coin very often, but realistically, if we get powerful enough, we can probably find a way to trade for ourselves (eliminating the middle man) -- maybe a hat of disguise or just finding or intimidating a merchant (or dealing with the Orcs over in the Hold, I can't imagine they'd be above trading with goblins) -- but that's down the road, as you say.

At the same time, we're greedy goblin types, and not all treasure is stuff we eat -- I'm fine with abstracting away what we've actually got of value (until such time as we have use for it), so long as we're cool with Bucko and Velag "counting" the coin (as in the IC thread) -- so we always appear to be giving a generous amount to the tribe while keeping the lion's share for ourselves -- and therefore gaining benefit from our trickery, we don't really need to see numbers until it's happy-trade-time later.

I would say we're a little behind the curve for level 3, but I don't tend to complain about these things, and really, the difference between a 305gp masterwork shortsword and a 2305gp +1 is pretty trivial. (

In fact, that's one of my problems with the 3.x systems, but that's not important right now).

The only reason I was focusing on the coin now was the earlier ability to trade monies for things.

Treasure!

Then tracking treasure......

Not sure how tracking treasure will work, I have been tracking what I take/use but not the party loot (do we have party loot?)

The discussion of party monies would make certain we spent all the money to throw a party in true goblin style.

If we bury a chest of coins, would we ever be able to find it?

I think the problem is "tracking" treasure!
as seen in the exchange...shiny me take....hey get back here...

One thing I did many years ago in a short game was "abstract loot." It was assumed that treasure was incidental to encounters, and when you leveled, you had X amount to work with and a place to buy/trade, particularly if you were high level and knew where to teleport to and who to see. Some groups like to RP the haggling and such, but I've always preferred the fighting part to describing how my character is dressed.

Granted, it takes away from the story part of gaining treasure, but everyone got what they really wanted, and it made a lot less work for me. Our DM even adopted it for our regular game, and we were ok with it. Other groups might not like that at all.

We're in the goblins' world, though, and they're naughty by nature. It goes against the grain to think they'd NOT scrap over the smallest treasure and argue the silliest points. Perhaps if they were literate and knew something about the world, they'd know how competent they really are, but it's more fun for me to watch them act like little terrors.

They've got real personalities now, and I don't think magic items will change their outlook very much. I mean, how many small-sized magical earthbreakers are out there? Does Tark care about that? I think he's just happy to bash things, as long as he's got a way to do it.

When they need magic items to defeat certain monsters, they'll find them, one way or another. It's not fair if they don't. They just might not be aware of it, or at least not have a sense of the market values as printed in the books. If it works, it works. If not, they'll find another way.

I imagine that Bucko and Velag can intuit what's needed to kill a vampire by talking to other creatures and discovering things by accident, rather than poring over tomes. Writtins iz bad!

Any thoughts you may have on the topic are appreciated.

Two solutions to the magic weapon thing that I've seen are:

- allowing someone with craft (weapon) to re-hilt a weapon, turning a medium-sized dirk into a small shortsword, or a medium-waraxe into a small greataxe, etc.

- having some magic items be powered by things anchored to them (rings or wraps on the hilt, haft, etc.) -- so that that object could be transfered from the nasty elfie's curve blade and put on Tark's breaker to smash things.

And you're right -- they would understand magic is power, but they'll care much more about what things do (and, in the case of Velag and Bucko, who can see auras, the strength of them) than what something's actually worth. (For instance I can't imagine any goblin [who can't detect magic, anyway] would trade a +1 flaming weapon for a +2 shocking one -- fire is good and we're goblins.)

I suppose, too, with the Licktoads being famous craftsgoblins, we could probably come up with masterwork stuff and maybe even get the smiths to reforge stuff for us -- so we could turn medium-sized mithril armor into multiple suits of small, for instance.... I mean, we're probably used to it to some extent from the scavenger-nature of goblinhood. :)

"Me know all about crafties. Me eat dwarf once."

When they need magic items to defeat certain monsters, they'll find them, one way or another. It's not fair if they don't. They just might not be aware of it, or at least not have a sense of the market values as printed in the books. If it works, it works. If not, they'll find another way.

I imagine that Bucko and Velag can intuit what's needed to kill a vampire by talking to other creatures and discovering things by accident, rather than poring over tomes. Writtins iz bad!

Any thoughts you may have on the topic are appreciated.

I think that goblin magic should include some wonderful things...

weapon blanches, cold iron, silver, adamantium
vermin repellent
troll styptic
smelling salts
beast scent
beast lure
blade guard
harpy musk

I think that goblin magic should include some wonderful things...

weapon blanches, cold iron, silver, adamantium
vermin repellent
troll styptic
smelling salts
beast scent
beast lure
blade guard
harpy musk

Excellent suggestions, both of you.

I remember some 3.X splat that had some rules for herbal stuff and alternate spell components, but I never got them. It would be awesome for Bucko to have some knowledge (healing? herbalist?) he can use for just this sort of thing. It follows that a witch would know a lot of folklore for making things to repel/attract various monsters, slow poisons, etc.

If you've got that sort of material, it would be fun to have him collecting plants and animal glands and such to make things that would give you some plusses now and then for some of your challenges. Imagine the acid resistance you could get from a properly-dried black dragon's bladder...

That would make for some fun RP. I wish I had the books, but I don't. If you guys want to incorporate some of that, please do.

Velag is updated to Inquisitor 4 (yay, level 2 spells and 2nd judgement per day) -- in so doing, I noted that the sheet that was posted for Inq 3 was off in a few places (skills, especially). Took the 5 hp since that's what I rolled last time anyway -- favoured class into HP as usual.

I took See Invisible and Flames of the Faithful as my spells.

Attribute boost went to Wis.

Tark and Fangz are also updated.

[spoiler="Questions for the Goblin King"

a) Since Velag has ranks in Heal (and it's Wis-based), I'll want to grab a healer's kit at the next possible opportunity -- are we going to see the other goblin camp before we face the baddies?

b) For that matter, can Bucko *make* such a thing from herbs, etc? (or can I, even)?

c) Also, I haven't been taking my off-hand attack when I move more than 5' (or take a different move action) -- I just wanted to confirm that's what we're supposed to be doing.[/spoiler]

a) You'll get a chance to stock up on things pretty soon.

b) I would think so. He could make heal checks or something to find useful healing herbs. If you want to find it, there's stuff in the srd, I think. Maybe some ranks in herbalist would make that easier. Goblins, lacking the stuff "civilized" races have, would probably be good at that.

c) TWF lets you attack with 2 weapons, regardless. As long as you take your -2 on each, you can draw both as part of your move, and attack with both as your standard action. It's not a full attack, so you don't have to worry about moving more than 5'. I didn't notice, or I'd have told you.

Once you hit 8th level and have 2 BAB attacks, you get 2 at -2, then a 3rd at -5. With the Improved TWF feat, you'd get 4 attacks; 2 at -2, then 2 at -5 (or is it -7? I forgot).

I just want to thank the players for making this game so fun. It's been a nice diversion for me during a difficult time, and the antics of the little green psychos have helped me a lot.

I see this as a comedy-driven action-oriented sorta thing, and for me it's uncharted water. There is an overarching plot of sorts, but it's way in the background. If we get to high level, it'll be the 10th season of Firefly; something we all deserve, if the world were just a slightly nicer place.

No, I don't like men in a sexual way (not that there's anything wrong with that!). That is all.

Glad you're enjoing yourself -- I'm enjoying it, too -- and, to be fair, I went from 7 PbPs to 1 over the last 2 weeks -- so I'm quite pleased that something's holding on.

Well, then. The class is incredibly strong and versatile, and Velag is way above average. The only divine caster in a magic-weak party.

I like being awesome. Sorry if I am annoying you with my awesomeness. I really look forward to have a level 5 character for the first time. So far this is my favorite PBP and one of the most consistent I am apart of. I am grateful for such clever and fun companions and an awesome DM who doesn't mind my awesomeness :)

I've also been greatly enjoying this campaign, as much for the DM'ing as well as the interaction with the other players. I think for a PBP, 4 players makes for the best group!

Especially after taking the glory-hungry, Order of the Cockatrice as a cavalier, I thought that Tark would certainly have met his demise by now. Thanks to a some very lucky rolling, Tark has actually made it to 4th level. Obviously since he has lived so long, I must not be playing him as brash and bold as he should be :)

Of course, now Tark's actually tough enough that he can afford the bluster, so I guess it all works out. ;)

Certainly I am enjoying all the great antics.....

I think the plans have been executed to perfection.

Tark charge, Haaruuu, bash!
Klepy sneak, stab! Take shinies!
Velag judge, stab!
Bucko casts and kills!

From GoG:

The Licktoads of Brinestump Marsh are excellent
swimmers who spend much of their free time
searching the marsh for little white toads that,
if swallowed or slobbered over, provoke
intense visions and dreams.

I think Toady is such a toad. Don't you?

** spoiler omitted **

Tark:

Tark:

And yes, I subtracted the scrolls from my sheet...

I think Bucko needs a picture book telling him how to make achemical stuff, then I will spend the ranks in the craft, alchemical to boost us up!

thunderstones
healer kit
troll styptic
weapon blanches
silver sheen

Also I really need this spell to keep Klepy out of the water.....
Returning Weapon

And this one since he probably won't stay out of the water...

Air Bubble

Or I could learn from new lizzard friends....
...though those tails look tasty! :)

All of this and more can be yours. Bring your characters up to 6000 gps' worth of stuff, which you can all get within a week courtesy of the Lizard King. Standard rules about trading in items for 1/2 value, etc.

You had 2 +1 swords and a +1 bow, as well as some gems and coins, and it all comes to 6000 apiece total value in gear and treasure, after you sell anything you don't want for 1/2.

Go nuts!

Bucko:

I never understood why you'd need to use a powerful spell to do what Mage Hand can do at level 0 (most thrown weapons are *well* within the weight allowance). *shrug*

Klepy's eyes only:

Bucko's dream:

Spells updated, got to update equipment!

Velag's vivid vision:

Tark's character is overpowered, and won't get a vision.

Tark:

I'd like some easy-to-navigate character info, when you have the time. Here's an example of what I mean. KenderKin's seen her before!

All the spoilers and stuff are a pain to type, but once you've got your format set up, it's easy to add loot and level up, etc., and we can look up info quickly.

On closer examination, Tark notices that his new earthbreaker has a familiar mark on the finely-crafted pommel. It's a Licktoad weapon, though the lizardfolk can't say where it came from. They've had it for years, unable to trade it with any small folk or other goblins, who generally prefer dogslicers and horsechoppers.

I'll try to rework the character sheet to the new format soon.