GM Burglar's 4-06 The Green Market (Inactive)

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The Prez went to San Dimas? That's right next door to the town I grew up in. Glendora's only claim to fame is that Vanilla Ice filmed some of his movie Cool as Ice there.

But no, I was in the magic kingdom all day yesterday. My youngest spent much of the day crying and/or lying face-down on the pavement in frustration.

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Wait, did Disney make a "Real-Life Simulator?" [\buhdumtish]

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My youngest spent much of the day crying and/or lying face-down on the pavement in frustration.

Pretty normal in my experience. As long as Mom and Dad didn't do the same ;)

"Time for you to make like a tree... and get out of here!"

Wasn’t that line used by Biff in Back to the Future? Love it.

Linnea Joculus wrote:

"Time for you to make like a tree... and get out of here!"

Wasn’t that line used by Biff in Back to the Future? Love it.

Indeed it was.

Then we have a literal page-and-a-half of half the factions jumping on Zeeva to talk faction missions.

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Seems they’ll make anyone a VC these days! ;)

Congrats, Tektite. Well deserved, bud!

GG, Mr. Tek; I'm not sure what the tenure expectancy of VCs is nowadays.

As for my giant post, that's just my attempt at LN "Native American Shaman"ing as hard as possible. (Without burying the actual text I have to give, that is.)

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Seems they’ll make anyone a VC these days! ;)

Congrats, Tektite. Well deserved, bud!

Hey, thanks. Yeah, apparently they lowered their standards....

GG, Mr. Tek; I'm not sure what the tenure expectancy of VCs is nowadays.

Thanks....I think?

"I only recall messing up one thing in the double encounter; I'm under my error budget!" ~Burglar

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Anybody ever play "Our Lady of Silver"? If so, do you want to see the Maaarv go a little off the rails?

Anybody ever play "Our Lady of Silver"? If so, do you want to see the Maaarv go a little off the rails?

That's hilarious. I played it, but I don't remember a trial......heh!

EDIT: Ooh! Adding bull’s strength to Cleaver's buffs, based on GM Burglar’s comments below. +2 to hit and damage, Cleaver.

+3 damage; 2-handing a viable weapon gives strength*1.5. Still 2 to-hit. Astounded Varg doesn't have any magic belts, though...

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Though seriously, if you're confused by something; please bring it up as early as possible. I personally believe this to not be a lack of clarity, but something of just shock from taking over 50 damage in less than a round due to a failed save (though a thought of "fire elementals do physical damage; that's kinda weird" did pass my mind while trying to find a legal way to not kill him immediately.) Though the fact we're craking into the 5-9 range is kinda when the "bum rush the bads" usually backfires unless it's a sole wizard in seasons 0-3 is pretty prevalent, hopefully.

He attempted to full retreat, but only the first step doesn't provoke. Then he tried to Acrobatics and failed that, which stops movement and "loses the move", though I ruled he still got the 5' step since that part didn't need any acrobatics to do. I shifted him to the closest thing to a "not getting flanked" point, as unattainable as it is. I just interpret the rolls; by this tier, I'd hope the meat and potatoes of rules for most PC actions are clear and on the table either via PRD, app, or just simply asking before rolling anything (or at least adding some contingencies.) I try to focus on keeping the game readable and paced while jumping through work filters, making posts solely via mobile, and intermittent 3g connections at home as my only connection, which I'm having doubts I'm doing again. That, and breaking down factors to ensure I'm not killing unRAWfully, but that's only on the need-to-be-done basis, do ho ho.

Getting hit while using Acrobatics (Tumbling) to avoid AoO doesn't stop the character movement if he's trying to go around the enemy. That condition only occurs if Varg was trying to go through the enemy's space.

Ah, superb. Move him out, another 55, then. New correction: learned. Maybe I'll actually use Acrobatics on a character one of these days.

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I’m travelling for a week visiting family.

Posting and viewing the map will be no problem, but I won’t be able to move my token while I’m away.

And with that, Day jobs, PFS numbers, and discussion of the future are very welcome so I don't have to dig through post history to report stuff.

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Performance, Comedy: 1d20 + 16 ⇒ (2) + 16 = 18
PFS #: 64554-2

I'm going to need to bow out for a while, at least with Linnea. I'm sorry that I've been pretty disengaged from this scenario.

PFS# 69095-1

No Day Job, but I think I get the 8-9 benefits as a Level 8 playing up?

Thanks so much for running, Burglar. I very much enjoyed your portrayal of Zeeva. A genuinely friendly NPC ally for a change!

Quite a shortish 5-9, but we were very much challenged as a group. I was worried for Varg for a while.

I am up for another if you're keen to run, Burglar. What level is everyone and what do you want to do, Shan? Is there a 6-7 or 7-8 Caradeum or Brachus haven't played? If we wanted to play a lower tier I could also bring my level 3 cleric/paladin (though she is a bit underpowered)

Lin, totally understand wanting a break. I personally didn't notice a drop off in your posting rate. As far as I'm concerned you're welcome with whoever you want to play.

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No Day Job.

There are still quite a few 5-9's I can play.

Caradeum should be level 7 after an AP chronicle get applied, but I have a few others in this level range.

Another chance to adventure alongside "Tuna" would be awesome. I have created Johender's brother, Jocephus.

The "two combats that run together unless the party almost breaks the scenario with Calm emotions" and singular map help the runtime. I tried to fluff out some NPC bits for seasoning, especially since the optional encounter was as optional encounters should be (a boring and arbitrary time waster with a mildly interesting mechanic.)

If you can decide on a thing to be run (tier and "if I've run it yet" agnostic), pick a thing and speak of it here. I have no real input other than "things I haven't run I'd obviously need to read, but that's not a problem." Just pick a thingy and I'll get this reported... Soon...

And "yes" to Luisila's question; subtiers are hella simple now. One must simply ask themselves if they're one of the two levels that are the subtier. If yes, you're in-tier. If no, you get out-of-tier gold. Item and boon listings are as per whatever you played. So much simpler.

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Take 10 for Survival for 21. Shan is on the slow track and still level 6. So out of tier?

As Shan, I'm up for Ghenett Manor Gauntlet & Wonders of the Weave I & II. But I'm sure people have already played those. Or anything else Dwarfy (already played the Halls of Dwarven lord trilogy). Those are my 2 cp.

Looking, I think the Heresy of Man series and In Wrath's Shadow are the only one ones I can play. That being said, I'm happy to sit out. Otherwise, I think when I played Ghenett Manor, it wasn't run very well.

I might be interested in repalying Ghenett if you need another player.

I would be up for Ghennet Manor ... and of course, we'd love to have you, Tektite.

Brachus, have you played it?

Varg, have you levelled to 7?

I could also do In Wrath's Shadow(3-7) (I've heard it's tough but having you guys along should help with that mightily) but I'd have to bring Antonella (3rd level) I'm thinking she wouldn't be super useful, apart from roleplay and bless spells, but I'm happy to do that - as long as everyone knows she won't be doing much damage in combat.

Hmm ... assuming you haven't played Wrath, if you level to 8, Brachus, I guess you'd need to bring another PC as well??

Is the Season 6 (5-9) Valley of the Veiled Flame an option? Or have you played that, Tektite? I wonder if Sethious, Endless or Aarvid have played it?

Oh, now I'm rethinking backing off. Linnea will jump up to level 8 after this thanks to some pregen games a long time ago.

I think my problem is that I haven't done much to really keep Linnea up - I realize I've been hoarding gold waiting for... something else to buy, but I don't know what. That, and I tried a multiclass experiment with Linnea that I'm not totally happy with.

Maaarv will likely not make it through his current scenario, but I've got a 5th level wizard available.

Of the various scenarios that have been put forth (starting with Shan's suggestions), I've played the two Wonders in the Weave scenarios and I am currently in Valley of the Veiled Flame (so far, I'm having a lot fun with it).

Ugh, Sign. Losing Maaarv would suck! Let's hope he makes it.

That's good news if you can keep going. I do enjoy Linnea's character. I guess you could rebuild her if you're not happy with some aspects of her build.

So it sounds like Ghennet Manor is still the favourite, but we're waiting to see if Brachus and Varg can play it?

The other idea I had was a 7-8. Which could work if Shan brought Panfalcon and Tektite played a martial character (assuming Varg is 7 level)

But .. well ... It looks like I'm getting ahead of myself again, so I'll stop now until we've heard from Brachus and Cleaver.

Oh, side input: I believe Paizo added something gaming-y to their webpage headers or something because Sethious' work now blocks the Paizo.com domain. He's likely out on pbp barring being really needed due to perceived post availability reduction.

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More Awake Side Input: Oh, man, I remember Ghenett Manor Gauntlet. Without knowing background stuff from S5 scenarios I've played (but not run), I believe that that merchant is one of my favorite NPCs. One of these days, I'll play a Prophet of Kalistrade... I just gotta... figure out how to be... useful with one...

Chronicles!

• Linnea and Shan (Boon on sheet gives +2 to dayjobs, so that's how she got 20 gp)
• Luisila (In-tier 8-9 no djob)
• Cara (OoT 5-7 no djob)

If there's any other no djob folks (which I think Varg Survival's for his job, but Brachus doesn't job IIRC), feel free to just take from above. Djob folks I can sign up a new sheet once roll'd.

That said, as far as Linnea's build idea; what are you looking to do more of? Whip or Bard? If you're looking for more esoteric whip functions, Steal and Disarm might be options if you haven't considered them already. Burgling spell component pouches and holy symbols are hideously efficient.

Yeah, I'm not sure what I want to do with her. Part of me thinks that she'd be more effective if I just focused on bard stuff. But being a whipmaster is fun too.

At any rate. Thanks for running this, Burglar. And thanks to everyone else for a fun time.

Edit: How does one earn the ability to steal with a whip? Is it a feat? I'm sure it's gotta be a feat. I just cannot seem to find it.

Edit again: Do ho ho - it's Improved Whip Mastery, right?

Steal, when added in the APG, has text that lets whips steal (albeit with a -4 on the roll.)

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Burglar, would it pay to PM Brachus and Varg about Day Jobs and Ghennet Manor?

I had a bard that died at second level. I was going to have her concentrate on spell-casting and archery – but that’s just me. She was human for the bonus feat – because archery is so feat intensive and I got longbow proficiency with an old Andoran PFS trait.

Play Linnea how you want to play her, SB.

Oh, while I have you guys … With the pdf sale going on: Pathfinder Player Companion: Faiths and Philosophies, Dungeoneer’s Handbook and Demon Hunter’s Handbook … any good?

I suppose; I slept about 14 hours total this weekend (by choice, not incident), so I wasn't too rushed on building more non-sleep things to do. They might have lost their dot on seeing new posts from updates or something.

Yeah, just play whatever is most fun. Just adding options out there.

Faiths is fun for Druid-y types and a few select faith-like entities, but isn't A+. Dungeoneering Handbook is probably not a bad call for your preparedness play style, though Demon Book has limited usefulness thanks to S5 being done and "its on a chronicle" mentality (though said chronicle unlocks it for the player and not just a singular character.) Your mileage may vary depending on how much S5 you have yet to play.

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I have no day job..but for some reason I missed the update that the chronicles were up (all though I did get an update that there were new posts just now..). Already played Ghennet Manor, but don't let me stop you guys from playing on.

Okay, I like the idea of putting more into using the whip.

I just saw that Lore Warden gets a bonus to CMD checks instead of armor mastery. So, I think I'll go that route.

Okay, so retraining a feat according to Ultimate Campaign states that the cost in gp is 10 x 8(level) x 5 (no. of days) = 400 gp to retrain 'Lingering Performance' to 'Weapon Finesse' - fits better with my new-found idea for Linnea the whipmaster.

Then, to switch out a 2nd level spell it is 10*8*4 = 320.

These are the rules in Ultimate Campaign - are they any different for Society?

It also costs one prestige point per day of retraining, iirc.

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I think that is correct - I knew there was something else. She's got prestige to spare (my only character with a perfect record for earning PP).

Survival Day Job: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (18) + 7 = 25

Varg chronicle

Also, any more thoughts on the next thing?

Well bum. It seems unlikely we will find something everyone can play.

Varg, do you want to play Ghennet Manor Gauntlet? It’s a Level 5-9.

I’m a big believer in momentum in pbp. GM Burglar, assuming Shan, Tektite and Linnea are in favour I say let’s choose Ghennet Manor and go.

Brachus, it’s a real bummer you can’t play it. I’ve enjoyed your character and play-style enormously. Let’s hope we can play together again sometime soon. Or that I can get into a game that you’re GMing :)

Tektite was actually on the fence, since he'd have to burn a GM star on it. I'd say I like the scenario, no doubt, but unless star replays still don't regenerate after a season, I'm not entirely sure its worth it (though I have an admittedly high value on those replay stars)... Not that something being a bad idea stops me on a daily basis, but that's my 2¢ after rereading the scenario.

Having GM'd this one in real life, I would place it in the mid-to-low on a list of my 10 favourite scenarios, but only because of amusing NPCs with easy voices and affiliations I want to play myself at some point. That said, I wasted a star myself on that one "S5 prove Pathfinder Innocence" scenario so the Atlanta VC could play, but that was probably an outright mistake and might just have been poor critical thinking skills at 10pm on the third day of a Con.

Still, I'm all read up and will get the map set up once I've got 4 to start.

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No problem, you guys are a great group and I've enjoyed my time playing with you. You guys have fun playing and we might meet up again later at some point

Stars don't regenerate, but I did score a boon that lets you recharge them as you GM games, so I've already recharged a couple.

Count me in. I'm not sure whether to bring Caradeum or someone else. Hmmm...

Stars don't regenerate, but I did score a boon that lets you recharge them as you GM games...

Oh, yeah; so do I... I should, uh, remember to actually fill that thing out... D'oops...

Pending Varg not being able to play meattank, you're pretty free to choice, IMO.

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I am in!

Okay, time for me to be wishy-washy again. I need to back out - unless you want to wait a couple of weeks. I'm finishing up my first Master's course next week and I'm going to be too busy.

I'll be free the first of December, but not before then. Sorry everyone, but I'm sure you'll find someone else.

Good luck with the Masters, Lin! Is it in education?

Shan, are you still in?

We are at 4. I checked Aarvid’s list and he has played Ghennet Manor. I would prefer another person or two. I haven’t had a game with Zizazat in ages. Do you think he would be interested, Tektite? Or do you want to invite someone else?

Is everyone OK with that?

I'm in. I have no problems waiting. Thanksgiving is next week and that will probably slow things down anyways. I'm cool with either.

D’oh! I forgot all about the Turkey & Football Holiday you guys celebrate! ;)

I am also cool with starting or delaying until the 1st.