Celes, looks at the naga, and a bit of drool starts to form in the corner of her mouth as she cannot avert her eyes at the sight of the wriggling naga.
Human Wandering Hero 6 | Max HP 52 | AC 16 (T13, FF13) | Fort +8 Ref +6 Will +8* | CMD 18 | Init +7 | Perc +11 (+13) | Sense +14
Will:1d20 + 7 ⇒ (13) + 7 = 20
Cobb smacks his lips and prepares himself for the inevitable by studying his foe.
Since she went ahead of me, I can't shoot her to study her by hitting her flat-footed, thus he'll spend the surprise round using a move action to study her.
Cobb studies the creature as everyone except the marksman and Tessa fall under the hypnotic sway of the coiled creature.
The coiled creature quickly uncoils and slithers towards the captivated loudmouth and before she realizes it, the creature's mouth distends and snaps around her middle.
As her fangs sink in, Sarasha feels the poison pump into her system. She quickly retracts from the wall-climbing rogue and grins wildly. "Then I will need to show my superiority! You will all die here today!"
If you are fascinated by the naga, then you stand up and move adjacent to her.
As the creature bites at Sarasha Tessa stands up and stumbles back against the wall. As it on reflexes alone she reaches out for her companion and hurls a pack of frozen ice at the naga.
Human Monk 6 | HP 49 | AC 23 (26 with barkskin) | T 20 | FF 18 | Fort +7 | Ref +10 | Will +6 | CMD 27 (29 vs. trip) | Init +6 | Perc +11 | Sense Motive +6 | Knowledge (religion) +3 Unchained Monk | Loot tracker
When you're fascinated, a potential threat allows you another saving throw, and an obvious threat automatically breaks the effect. Can we assume we're no longer fascinated, since a giant snake-woman biting one of our companions while shouting that we will all die represents an obvious threat?
The koboldest of all the Bold Striders. | Also, Wayfinder GM for GM Bold Strider
I think the obvious threat is a threat against you personally, however this seems like a potential threat, so those fascinated would get another save attempt. DC 19 to break free from the fascinate.
Edit: By personally, I mean that you are under threat of imminent harm, not merely potential harm in the future. Being attacked yourself is key for a obvious threat, I think. Otherwise, Cobb could just aim his weapon at everyone as a free action to break the effect, right?
Human Monk 6 | HP 49 | AC 23 (26 with barkskin) | T 20 | FF 18 | Fort +7 | Ref +10 | Will +6 | CMD 27 (29 vs. trip) | Init +6 | Perc +11 | Sense Motive +6 | Knowledge (religion) +3 Unchained Monk | Loot tracker
I think you're setting a different standard than exists in the rules. Drawing a weapon is given as an example of an obvious threat, and it's not targeted at anyone - it's just drawing a weapon. The naga is actually attacking one of us and literally threatening to kill us all. Either one of those acts should clear the threshold of an obvious threat. Fascinate is not really something that one uses in combat, because combat tends to break the effect automatically.
On the point of Cobb aiming his weapon at each of us, I guess that would technically fit within RAW, except that we all see Cobb as an ally and would probably discount the threat he represents. But that is not how we feel about the naga.
The koboldest of all the Bold Striders. | Also, Wayfinder GM for GM Bold Strider
You can say that you see fascinate as an ability that is used out of combat, but anytime fascinate is used it results in combat so there has to be a use outside everyone failing their saves. I maintain that there has to be a threat to your person to unanimously break your fascinate. Otherwise, what is the point? Also, an imminent threat is still different than a vocal future threat. Of the three issues, the Naga has not drawn a weapon, cast a spell or aimed a Ranged weapon at you, so the strictest reading means you would maybe get another save. That being said, I think you would get a save.
Disoriented: The target takes a –2 penalty on attack rolls. In addition, the target takes an additional –2 penalty on all attack rolls it makes against the rogue.
Human Monk 6 | HP 49 | AC 23 (26 with barkskin) | T 20 | FF 18 | Fort +7 | Ref +10 | Will +6 | CMD 27 (29 vs. trip) | Init +6 | Perc +11 | Sense Motive +6 | Knowledge (religion) +3 Unchained Monk | Loot tracker
Browsing the boards a bit, I can't find any reading of the rules consistent with your position. Looked at another way, the naga - who is obviously hostile, given that she's threatening to kill us all - approached. This qualifies as a hostile creature approaching, and is thus a potential threat, which grants a new save. Her other action, attacking Asha, clearly represents a greater degree of threat, so should be considered an obvious threat, breaking the effect. The examples given, of drawing a weapon and so on, are just that - examples. Just because her action was not one of those specific things doesn't mean there isn't an obvious threat, and I'm puzzled by your reading of the rule.
In any case, I don't want to drag this out further.
Lukas shakes on the snake-woman's hypnotic effect, then leaps to his feet and darts around the naga, dodging madly to get into position on the far side of the creature from Asha.
Move action to get up, move action to get into flank position.
Jebediah Lillywag N Halfling Oracle 4 Init +9, Low Light Vision, Perception +8 Will +3 Ref +4 Fort +2 AC 17 CMD 12 HP 31/31
In my reading fascinate was always an out of combat abililty. The baridic performance ability quite clearly states that it can only be used when no combat is going on. Also I agree with Lukas that there isn't much room for interpreting what the Naga is doing currently as not being hostile...
@Jeb: This ability isn't the bardic performance ability, however, so any text in that ability isn't actually relevant. Additionally, I agree that she is hostile, however the fascinate ability doesn't say "if you think someone is hostile then it breaks immediately."
@Lukas: As she approached, then you would get a new save, which I said you would above. No argument there. Additionally, her action was an obvious threat to Asha, which is why she is automatically broken out of the fascinate effect. Again, I think we can agree on this.
You seem puzzled by my ruling, but I am honestly puzzled by yours. If fascinate is so easily broken and it can only be used outside of combat, then at what point can this ability ever be used? It will unanimously result in combat every time as it is an ability that starts up Initiative. Additionally, the only condition in which combat would start and it wouldn't break under your interpretation is if the six Pathfinders (in PFS) or the group of players at your table all fail their rolls. If that is true, then what is even the point of having the ability printed?
That being said, you clearly feel strongly about it, so let's just say that the effect is now broken! Huzzah!
@Sarasha: Sorry, I forgot the poison rules. You need to make another save on your turn. One for the initial injection and one on your turn, since you failed the first.
Con Damage:1d3 ⇒ 1 Wis Damage:1 = 1
Sarasha feels the poison quickly coursing through her system as it begins to shut down her vital organs as Lukas leaps up to distract the creature long enough for the rogue to sink her blade into the naga.
Tessa summons up a cold blast of air and chucks it at the naga, but the snowy substance just splatters along the wall near Sarasha.
Celes stands up and tries to yell at the naga for the slight of making her a bit dumber than normal, but the snake-like creature could care less as it ignores the halfling who decides to take a huge swing through the air, nearly taking off Cobb's head.
@Celes: Move Action to Intimidate leaves you with no move to actually close the gap. Please look at the map next time.
Sarasha tries to internally fend off the poison, but this supercharged lunar naga is bit harder to handle than the everyday nagas and the poison continues to abuse Sarasha's system.
Con Damage:1d3 ⇒ 3 Wis Damage:1 = 1
Jeb steps forward and tries to take down the naga with a single blast of light, but he finds that the potent nature of the beast's willpower is too much, even for him.
Will Save:1d20 + 11 ⇒ (17) + 11 = 28
Cobb takes aim and fires off two arrows at the naga as he carefully.
Both of the arrows glance off the steely scales of the naga as she turns to bite down on the aggressor behind her, seeing that her poison is taking care of Sarasha.
Sarasha continues to fall prey to the powerful poison as Cobb blesses himself.
Con Damage:1d3 ⇒ 3 Wis Damage:1 = 1
Tessa readies herself for when the creature shows once more as Lukas sends out a flurry of fists into the nearby area, hoping to get lucky, but it seems that Thaena has slipped away from the man.
@Jeb: That's not a legal way to use a cone spell. You went 20' diagonally from you and then 15' down a vertical. You either choose a cardinal direction and then pick the square adjacent to you and then a 2x3 block next to that or have a 15' line down two cardinal directions and meet in between which would be only two squares diagonally. Either way, I think you still would have hit her if I made you choose.
Need to retcon since Jeb is eating an AoO. Making a slight adjustment to Celes's declared action since she cannot charge due to allies being in the way.
As Jeb steps forward and summons forth a cascading aura around his hand, the viperous naga lashes out from invisibility.
@Jeb: You can make a Concentration-DC 35 check to try and complete the Color Spray, but I don't think you have even a +15, so I think it might be impossible.
Her fangs sink into the halfling and inject him with the deadly poison, interrupting his casting completely as the man recoils in pain.
Lukas, seeing the naga appear, steps forward and flurries at the naga, hitting her with his first strike and Celes charges in as well, but her attack just glances off the scales of the creature.
Tessa's Snowball, however, finds its mark this time and the cold is finally exposed to Thaena. "HISSS! I WILL END THE LIVES OF YOU AND TAKE MY PLACE AT SZANGI'S SIDE ONCE MORE!"
The colors of the naga's scales become muted as you can visibly see the creature shiver from the piercing cold, however this doesn't stop her from lashing out at the creature with the flaming axe that came forward. "I WILL PRESENT THAT AXE TO HIM AFTER I REND IT FROM YOUR GRASP!"
I forgot to add in the +2 to charge, which actually becomes a +1 since I am using a larger weapon. The total attack would have been 17 to hit.
Celes, rages while getting bit, and tries to steel her body against the poison, but she can feel it slowly eat away at her body's intestinal fortitude.
Bewildered: The target becomes bewildered, taking a –2 penalty to AC. The target takes an additional –2 penalty to AC against all attacks made by the rogue.
Not sure if that AC drop will make a difference for everyone else's attacks, but since I technically go first I will make the case for it. Also, We're getting our asses kicked. :-)
Celes and Sarasha both continue to be hammered by the poison as it continually drains their life force.
Con Damage-Sarasha:1d3 ⇒ 2Con Damage impacts your Fort Save, so you are actually at a -2 to your Fort, which is a 16 and doesn't pass. Wis Damage-Sarasha:1 = 1
Con Damage-Celes:2d3 ⇒ (1, 1) = 2 Wis Damage-Celes:2 = 2
Your Bewildered won't affect the rolls, but it is unneeded.
Sarasha moves in to strike, crippling the naga's defenses, but those that hit the naga did not need the aid and those that missed missed by too much.
Tessa and Lukas seemingly add to the confusion of the melee as Celes and Cobb are able to damage the crazed creature. As Celes' axe cleaves in and Cobb's arrow finds its mark, the naga slumps to the ground, dead.
EDIT: Still in rounds!
Actions Left This Round:
Sarasha; Jebidiah; Lukas; Cobb; Tessa; Celes
Status
Sarasha (10' Up) @ 3/18 HP [Poisoned (4/6): 8 Con Damage / 4 Wisdom Damage]
Jeb @ 7/31 HP [Poisoned (1/6): 0 Con Damage / 0 Wisdom Damage]
Celes @ 19/48 HP [Poisoned (2/6): 2 Con Damage / 2 Wisdom Damage]
Actions Left This Round:
Sarasha; Jebidiah; Lukas; Cobb; Tessa; Celes
Status
Sarasha (10' Up) @ 3/18 HP [Poisoned (4/6): 8 Con Damage / 4 Wisdom Damage]
Jeb @ 7/31 HP
Celes @ 19/48 HP [Poisoned (2/6): 2 Con Damage / 2 Wisdom Damage]
Human Monk 6 | HP 49 | AC 23 (26 with barkskin) | T 20 | FF 18 | Fort +7 | Ref +10 | Will +6 | CMD 27 (29 vs. trip) | Init +6 | Perc +11 | Sense Motive +6 | Knowledge (religion) +3 Unchained Monk | Loot tracker
More than a little surprised that he managed to come through the battle with the naga unharmed, Lukas considers Jeb's question, then replies, "I don't know any way to deal with it, I'd normally ask you about something like that."
We may need a strategic retreat, if that's an option.
Jebediah Lillywag N Halfling Oracle 4 Init +9, Low Light Vision, Perception +8 Will +3 Ref +4 Fort +2 AC 17 CMD 12 HP 31/31
Jebediah places a hand on Sarash and incantes an old ritual which might save her from the brink of the ladies lands.
Cast lesser restoration on Sarasha. Lesser restoration dispels any magical effects reducing one of the subject's ability scores or cures 1d4 points of temporary ability damage to one of the subject's ability scores.
Sarasha vomits violently, staying on hands and knees above her stomach contents on the floor.
I'll be okay, I...
She breaks down into a series of dry heaves. Remembering her scroll, she hands it to Jeb if he's not busy casting, or Cobb if so. First one to accept wins.
Can you cast this on me? I...(cough)...just need a little more strength to kick this (cough).
If someone has a good HEAL skill, we can use that in place of the poison DC yes? If not I can try and roll my fort saves since I have a +7 right now while raging/poison damage.
Adjust bonus as needed should it go lower. This is the current -2 con stats
To treat poison means to tend to a single character who has been poisoned and who is going to take more damage from the poison (or suffer some other effect). Every time the poisoned character makes a saving throw against the poison, you make a Heal check. If your Heal check exceeds the DC of the poison, the character receives a +4 competence bonus on his saving throw against the poison.
Action/Time: 1 standard action.
Retry? Varies. Generally speaking, you can’t try a Heal check again without witnessing proof of the original check’s failure.
Tessa rushes over and tries to help who she can with the poison. Lying her hands on the wound the group finds out why she never wanted to be touched. Her physical touch itself burns with such intensity as her hands are as cold as the ice. Small ice shards quickly form in the wound as it makes the area around it numb.
Cast Resistance on Jeb then Celes for +1 to your saves for 1 minute.
The group tries to stop Sarasha's hemorrhaging wounds as the poison thins her blood as Jeb seems to overcome the poison on his own.
Celes's own blood begins to thin before quick aid from Cobb and Tessa help her overcome the poison's effects quickly.
Sarasha - Con Damage:1d3 ⇒ 1 Wis Damage:1 = 1
Sarasha, clinging to life, tries valiantly to save herself.
Fort Save | Con Penalty/Heal Bonus/Resistance:1d20 + 1 - 4 + 4 + 1 ⇒ (12) + 1 - 4 + 4 + 1 = 14
Sarasha - Con Damage:1d3 ⇒ 2 Wis Damage:1 = 1
Jeb uses the scroll from Sarasha on her as she succumbs to the last of the poison, which nearly kills her.
CLW:1d8 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2
In the end, the valiant Bold Striders find that they have overcome the Advance Lunar Naga with no permanent casualties and their reward appears to be a Necklace of Adaptation found on Thaena's corpse.
Status
Sarasha @ 0/13 HP [11 Con Damage / 6 Wisdom Damage]
Jeb @ 7/31 HP
Celes @ 19/48 HP [2 Con Damage / 2 Wisdom Damage]
Sarasha slumps against a nearby wall, looking pale and exhausted.
Sorry guys, maybe Jeb's plan was better after all. I'm in no condition to fight a mouse, let alone a dragon. Maybe you should leave me here while you go on.
I can live with Wisdom damage, but I'm going to need several Lesser Restorations to get back up to something resembling full HP. Is it possible to retreat back to the nearest town to recuperate?
