I'm not quiet as bad. Have work from 4-8, then class til 10, the more classes from 1-3, the bed, usually, at 7 or 8PM. Just up late tonight to try to get things rolling, then I'm out.
OK, guys and gals, it’s pretty clear already that following the wilderness exploration RAW is going to be a horrible bore. Here’s the new plan:
1. Declare your route intentions, same as before. Except, I need to know how far you plan to travel each day so that I know what checks I need for things like a forced march. So, the new format would be “NW, SW, rest, NW, SW, rest” or something like that. The rates of travel are in the spoiler below.
2. If you are travelling on mapped hexes, no chance of getting lost. If you are travelling on new hexes, 1 survival roll per 5 hexes travelled.
3. If you fail the survival roll, you will not be able map your travels and I won’t update the Obsidian Portal map. I will roll to determine how lost you get, and you will automatically realize that you are lost at that point.
4. From there, you will make another survival roll to determine how quickly you make it back to mapped territory.
Sound simple enough?
I reworked my random encounter tables to mesh better with this system. Basically, there is 2/3 chance to encounter something (not necessarily combat) if you explore a hex, and a 1/6 chance to encounter something if you pass through a hex.
We will no longer track night watch shifts, assuming that your party works it out to get enough sleep for everyone. If the random encounter occurs during the night, I will apply it from there.
We will also not keep as close an eye on food. Just keep track of how many days of food you have for your entire party. If you are about to run out, then you will make a survival roll to determine if and how much food you can find. You can also feel free to scrounge up food from encounters as appropriate.
So, to get up to speed, here what I need from you:
No more getting lost check until you venture into unmapped territory.
How many days worth of food you have for your party.
The first column shows your slowest party member’s walking speed. The next columns shows how long it takes to pass through grassland or other hex, respectively. The lowest row shows how long it takes to fully explore a hex, regardless of walking speed.
Rate Grassland All other
5’ 4 hours 5 hours
10’ 3 hours 4 hours
15’ 3 hours 4 hours
20’ 2 hours 3 hours
25’ 2 hours 3 hours
30’ 1.5 hours 2 hours
35’ 1.5 hours 2hours
40’ 1 hour 1.5 hours
45’ 1 hour 1.5 hours
50’ 45 min 1 hour
Explore .5 day 1 day
I apologize for changing things up so abruptly, but I'm already tired of the perpetual stream of survival rolls. I'm totally up for more suggestions, too.
Looks fine to me. Seems kind of a low chance to find something that may be in a hex, though. To me that would be what the perception checks would be for, or at least more like an 80% chance instead of only 66.6%. Otherwise why bother spending a whole day exploring a hex if you're not guaranteed to find anything?
If you have access to the Kingmaker book 1, it has some very detailed information about hex-ploration.
Oh, no, sorry. If you spend a whole day exploring a hex, you are guaranteed to find any permanent locations. The 2/3 chance is for a random encounter. I actually built my table off of someone else's modified kingmaker rules.
Ax, I'm spending the interim time getting my gear together and finalizing my character sheet. I'll post IC as soon as I get that done.
The GM seems to be playing it pretty close to the original West Marches, based on his statements regarding the game. I trust him when he says we'd probably die. If we go without a third, we'd probably have to be running for our lives at least once during our trek, but sometimes that can be fun. One of my most memorable moments was with a character similar to the one I'm playing now.
However, the nature of the game is to get more people involved, and I can't imagine that we'd be the last two to want to play. If we left without more people, that's two less people who get to play (at least, immediately so), and I'd hate for that to happen. My vote is to wait for another.
If it comes right down to it, I'll roll up a generic fighter to accompany you if you really want. He won't do much, but he'll be handy in a fight. He would demand a fair share of loot and XP, of course, but that may be a small price to pay for a body between you and the wild.
Now would be a good time to discuss how you plan on handling things like maps and such. Do you want me to make a digital map of the tavern on my own? Or will you be giving me a physical description that the map should adhere to?
You can do whatever you like with the tavern map. It's a big tavern, we've already established that there's a fireplace, a place where posters go, a room with cot, and a bar.
Sounds good. I'll get right on that. Anybody have suggestions about what program I should make the map in? We could go for a uniform format, or everybody could do their own thing and make a lovely mess of the wiki, which might actually add to the flavor.
I love the feel of hand-drawn stuff, if that makes any difference. Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner.
Also, I'm not paying for an Obsidian Portal membership, so I can only have one map. We'll have to add maps as images in the actual articles, which I don't think is really any worse than having them under the map header.
That's fine. In fact, it's a bit better that way, to consolidate everything. I do, in fact, have access to a scanner. I'll see what I can do.
Dear evil team,
Irony won the day for the good team it appears. While giving up the race to explore the trail left behind found by a sock in the woods, think we found the bounty.
Haha :)
Sincerely,
The good guys.
Dear Good Team,
We are assembling an army in the wilderness to destroy everything you love and remake it in our image. F*ck the bounty.
Love,
Fuzzy-wuzzy Evil Guys
PS: We also know where the bounty is.
Goblins are HARDLY an army...
Good guy Chuffy > all your goblins! I may need to take that level of ranger faster than I thought to take Favored Enemy (Goblin)...!
But really, don't hurt the forest. I don't want to have to burn down your new fort :( From what I can tell of Finn and Chuffy the convo would go down something like this:
Tensen: "Guys we should burn down the evils teams new base - they're logging the whole wilderness to build it!"
Chuffy + Finn: "BURNINATE THE COUNTRYSIIIIIIIIIIDE!" followed by many high fives and cheering.
What kind of company have I chosen ._.
Dear Evil and Good teams,
I have no idea what's going on, but I crushed a guy's face with a giant sword and it was awesome.
Sincerely, Ira
Hey, no peaking! Lol, as far as you know we just dissapeared into the woods. Unless there is a spy in our ranks....BEGIN THE INQUISITION!! :P
Well, you certainly can't let any information gained from peeking affect character decisions, that's just poor form.
Just to add what our Little King said,
Evil team - List of things to do.
1- Amass minions - check
2- set up evil lair - Work in Progress
3- Make Evil Plan - todo
4- Make evil death ray - todo
5- Dominate and subjugate surrounding area - todo
6- Rule in absolute power todo
Good team - Things to do
1- Find a bandit -ongoing
2- Bring him in alive if can - todo
3- get paid get drunk todo
4- help old ladies cross the street todo
5- Save cat from tree todo
6- Etc....
I think that about sums it up.
:)
Well, you certainly can't let any information gained from peeking affect character decisions, that's just poor form.
^This. I just enjoy seeing what everybody is up to. Metagaming can kill a game.
And Rosa.. The good guys have no agenda. And I do us injustice by calling us the good-guys. I think 4/5 of us are Neutral lol.
compared to us, your the good guys
Please. The good guys haven't even started yet. But then again, I doubt we'll find ourselves mired in the little rivalry the other two groups have going on.
Neutral vs. Evil just doesn't have the same ring to it though...
Those Gard-darn mod-a-rats just carr-nt trust-em
Sorry for the delay, I've had something of a busy weekend. I hope that post suffices :)
Aaron, I just wanted to let you know that we will not be chasing the bounty. From your character's internal thoughts, it seemed that you thought we would be, so I wanted to clarify.
Aaron, I just wanted to let you know that we will not be chasing the bounty. From your character's internal thoughts, it seemed that you thought we would be, so I wanted to clarify.
Yep, got that. Somehow left a line out of the reply saying that he was so excited about the new adventure that he did not pay close attention the the words that were being said.
Shameless plug that my Kingmaker game has 1-2 open spots. Really enjoying the game here thus far and would love to see some of you more often!
Ooh, that's you is it Tensen? I was thinking about throwing my hat in with an Inquisitor or Ranger but it seemed like you already had a lot of interest. Also still waiting to hear about the Kirthfinder game that is recruiting. But that's going slow... Let me know if you get desperate. I can whip something up to order basically. I enjoy playing anything at this point.
Yup, thats me :) It's been super fun so far. The players seem to have a good chemistry. Just had one of our two front liners drop out.. Any other character leaving and I would have kept going. But in a party of 6 with one melee.. Thats not good news :P
If i may ask, what is the significance of heading in the same direction as the other teams?
You may run into some of us? Or the results of our passage? There are currently 9 PCs stomping about in the wilderness, although it will soon be 8. As a sandbox world, whatever we do will change it, and we're supposed to be providing our own motivations and missions for the most part. Jackson wants to explore EVERYTHING, so if you go with him that's probably what you'll end up doing.
PS:Is it just me or does Jackson have the voice of Sean Connery?
Point is the goody goody nice nice party's are all about making the wilderness a safer place to me, where as we the bad bad evil evil crew if all gos well soon be why the woods are dark.
We also have 2 "good" teams which means that the wilderness SHOULD never stay dangerous for long :P
Forsooth good sir do mine ear hear a challenge to subdue a land hehe
We aint gun' start no sh*t. Just stay outta the way and you can be good alls you want. We want to make the wilderness safe too, by turning it into industry and conquering everything. It just needs a little organization is all, some order. Nothing evil about that. :P
Sean Connery is not what I was going for, but it's perhaps better, especially since he was Henry Jones, Sr. and I'm definitely going for a certain Indiana Jones flavor, with maybe a bit of Han Solo mixed in. I'll spoiler it so that it doesn't ruin the Sean Connery thing for you, but the voice I was going for is based on
Was thinking more like Cloony or Pitt, but Connery will do.
still begs the question of why were followin the others to an already marked place on the map
Because, as far as I know, we're not. It's my understanding, in-character, that the X is not where they went. In-character, it's my understanding that, according to the bartender, the X leads to a gully with rooms in the walls, where long ago some crazy people had a lab. I haven't read the other threads, and I've only read what I would know as a character. I'd suggest that others do the same; the meta-game can make or break a game like this, and I don't want to ruin it for myself. It's not my intention to lecture or chastise, merely a friendly suggestion.
I appreciate the effort, Jackson. I agree completely that meta-gaming will ruin this for whoever does it. What's the fun in adventuring if you know what's there? And besides, even if you go to the same place as the rest of them, you never know what they might have missed - or what else may have moved in...
Looks like we just need to list our group going out and wait for the call. GM said 2-4. Looks like we are currently 5.
Aaron, Fox, Ax, Jar'Kel, and Amarandlon, in no appearent order. I'm ready when the call comes.
5 is fine. Gameplay here.
Good luck fellas, hope to see you out there somewhere.
Is Fallsvale Tavern/Eternal Horizons set in some unknow part of Golarian or in another world entirely?
It doesn't really matter. Why do you ask?
Well the back story has the character as Aslanti and knowing that language. It also effects other references to gods, ethnic backgrounds and such. Helps me when I am writing the fluff and color.
Go ahead and use Golarion canon for your character's backstory. There isn't really any geographical significance to this location, though. I suppose it could be off on another continent or something.
Well, according to Golarion cannon, the last Azlanti was Aroden, and the language is dead and unknown, like the Language of the Birds :P