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Ok..background is up...hope it is ok...if not just tell me and I will change it.
I just realized that we're doing an Asian themed campaign and there are seven of us... If only we were all samurai, lol.
I've been giving some further thought to the matter and I've decided to use Hero points as well in this..I want the whole game to have an Epic Kurosawa-like flavour.(another reason for having 7 players)
Will we be beginning the game with a hero point via the "You wrote a backstory, so get a hero point" method, or will you be awarding them at specific intervals throughout the story?
I've not played with Hero points before. Are they as powerful as they sound? Will I want to have a lot, or does it not really impact the game that much?
I've not played with Hero points before. Are they as powerful as they sound? Will I want to have a lot, or does it not really impact the game that much?
Personally, I haven't found them to be overpowered; I allow their use in a tabletop Kingmaker campaign I'm running, and I've noticed that Hero Points tend to be used when the party really needs them--they give just enough of an edge to help out in a pinch. Also, they are a very finite resource, so I don't see them used that often.
Theoretically, you could do well with feats that add more Hero Points, but--in my opinion--you'd be better off spending a feat on something else. They are quite handy, though. :)
Good to know. I guess I won't rush out and get all the feats right now, and see how things progress :).
I use them in my home Carrion Crown campaign, and I don't find them to be that overpowered. The party only uses them when they believe they really need (Sometimes they blow them on rolls they only think are important). They are very finite, however, as you can only have 3 at a time, and other than leveling up, the only way to really get them is to do something the DM believes is especially heroic.
Nice background Runa I was hoping someone would give me a link to Ilsoari..I've used him as a mentor to aspiring heroes before.
On the Hero points thing..as I said it's more the epic scale of this adventure that make me think you might need them ..especially when traversing the Crown of the World.
Just updated my character with the stats for my familiar. I look forward to hero points!!
Alright, here is Rhys Grey's character; background and info are in the profile.
Just so you know, I had to twink Lissa's stats a tiny bit to fix some encumbrance problems.
Nice backgrounds from everyone so far and I opened the recruitment again.
Hello, everyone. Here is Omara. I think I have everything the way I want it. I'm thinking of taking a few levels of bard along the way, but we'll see what happens.
How does everyone think a Magus would fit into the group? I notice there's only one real fighter-type and one arcane caster in the group and I've been eager to play a Magus ever since I first read about the concept of the class. It seems like that type of character would fit well with the flavor of the campaign and also add another melee/arcane character to the party's makeup.
How does everyone think a Magus would fit into the group? I notice there's only one real fighter-type and one arcane caster in the group and I've been eager to play a Magus ever since I first read about the concept of the class. It seems like that type of character would fit well with the flavor of the campaign and also add another melee/arcane character to the party's makeup.
I'd be fine with it, personally; I've yet to see one in play.
How does everyone think a Magus would fit into the group? I notice there's only one real fighter-type and one arcane caster in the group and I've been eager to play a Magus ever since I first read about the concept of the class. It seems like that type of character would fit well with the flavor of the campaign and also add another melee/arcane character to the party's makeup.I'd be fine with it, personally; I've yet to see one in play.
I see no problem with it, but I think we may be getting a bit top heavy with arcane casters
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Hi everyone!
I just got the green light from DM Wellard (well, I got it about 6 hours ago but I was asleep :-) ) and I am looking at party composition and I am wondering if people are seeing a gap that needs to be filled.
I see DM Wellard mentioned something about a cleric, and I can do that but I thought I would ask before I put my weight fully behind one concept. (I normally DM at home here so I have a million character ideas).
Any thoughts out there?
Edit: Currently I am leaning towards a cleric of Desna with the Liberation and Travel Domains, there are some great subdomain powers that would be perfect for an epic band of travelers. But I am still open to other roles if you folks think we are missing something.
Currently you lack front line combat power and divine casting.
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Currently you lack front line combat power and divine casting.
Well I love to do either; clerics and fighters mark the bulk of my PCs in the last few years.
If Phil is a Magus then is seems to me that the group can get inventive on the combat front but divine is divine. I love me some clerics and the more I work with this Desnan cleric the more interested I get, so consider that issue covered.
I will get him stated and posted hopefully today.
Currently you lack front line combat power and divine casting.Well I love to do either; clerics and fighters mark the bulk of my PCs in the last few years.
If Phil is a Magus then is seems to me that the group can get inventive on the combat front but divine is divine. I love me some clerics and the more I work with this Desnan cleric the more interested I get, so consider that issue covered.
I will get him stated and posted hopefully today.
Sounds good. I'm still debating the kind of class I want to play. I do see that we sorely lack a real tank, front-line combatant sort of character and a Magus would definitely not be good for that type of role with the 3/4 BAB and d8 HD, despite the fact that the class intrigues me.
Hmm. I may end up going with something more along the lines of a Fighter or a Cavalier. Paladin wouldn't really fit the idea I have forming in my mind, especially given that I was thinking of having a character with a Shalelu crush.
I'm curious as to what everyone else thinks, though, and would like to get input from them as to what would be most effective. Thanks in advance!
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Sounds good. I'm still debating the kind of class I want to play. I do see that we sorely lack a real tank, front-line combatant sort of character and a Magus would definitely not be good for that type of role with the 3/4 BAB and d8 HD, despite the fact that the class intrigues me.Hmm. I may end up going with something more along the lines of a Fighter or a Cavalier. Paladin wouldn't really fit the idea I have forming in my mind, especially given that I was thinking of having a character with a Shalelu crush.
I'm curious as to what everyone else thinks, though, and would like to get input from them as to what would be most effective. Thanks in advance!
I have never seen a cavalier in action and of all the settings where you might be actually able to use a mount in a variety of scenarios this AP seems like the best bet. I must also conceded that the idea of have not having an actual "fighter" in the party is sorta funny to me personally because I had a hard time in my local games getting people to not play fighters and try other things for a long time.
I agree; a mounted warrior might really shine in this AP. A cavalier would also be well-armored, have good weapons, the tactician ability, etc.
On the other hand, a melee-focused fighter could be deadly, as well. I suppose it depends on whether you want a mount companion or not.
I agree; a mounted warrior might really shine in this AP. A cavalier would also be well-armored, have good weapons, the tactician ability, etc.
On the other hand, a melee-focused fighter could be deadly, as well. I suppose it depends on whether you want a mount companion or not.
This is the primary reason why I'm so torn between Fighter and Cavalier. The campaign seems like it's very outdoorsy for the most part, which presents a rare opportunity to get a lot of use out of a class with a focus on being mounted. The question then becomes would there be opportunity enough to use that mount in the latter parts of the campaign.
I may go with Cavalier over Fighter anyway. I kinda have the opposite problem of you, PirateDevon. The first class I ever played in ANY tabletop RPG was a 3.0 Druid and I've very rarely played a regular ol' Fighter sort.
Granted, I'm running Second Darkness with some friends right now and the heavy hitter in that group is a Fighter/Polearm Master, and it's nothing less than frightening how much damage he can dish out.
Fealar , Paizo Fan and Scooter have not replied to this thread despite being given almost a week to do so...
Wow! Didn't think I had a chance. I thought I'd get a proper British telling off for trying to horn into your PbP novice game.
I mostly wanted to say, HI! and wish you all luck. Wellard is a great guy and a better DM! I've enjoyed playing with him for many moons now.
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@Devon and Rhys..I'll leave it up to you two to decide that aspect.Also Devon,your biography appears to have vanished and been replaced by your combat stats.
@Phillip..if you are thinking Cavalier and have Ultimate Combat why not consider a Samurai. As to your thoughts that a Paladin couldn't fit into the romance aspect..Paladins of Shelyn are made for that sort of role.
All are good ideas for a heavy front-line hitter. Cavaliers do have the mount issue (which I believe will be less of a problem than in most other AP's), but are still quite good at dishing out some punishment anyway. And a dedicated fighter is always good at all levels and in groups. I suppose it'd really come down to rather you'd play someone more dedicated to a cause or a battle-hardened warrior. A fighter'd be easier to have from Sandpoint, whereas a cavalier would most likely hail from Magnamar or Korvosa, or even outside of Varisia. A fighter might be more customizable, especially with all the new feats that will be in Ultimate Combat. And there is always samurai if you want to go with a pre-established link to Minkai. Let's not forget, though, that a good portion of this campaign will be crossing through the Lands of the Linnorm Kings. Ulfen Viking screams fighter...
Ultimately, play what you feel will be the most fun. That's what it's all about, after all.
Absolutly..play what you want to play I'm not railroading anyone..time will tell if the party mix works or not.
I apologize for holding everyone up being so slow to make a character. Trying to read up on several different things to familiarize myself with some different areas of Golarion. I'm currently debating between a human Ulfen Two-Handed Fighter and an elven Mobile Fighter.
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Okay...Zaladrel's biography is up and should be formatted a little easier to read. It is a little on the long side (elves have a lot of time to cover geez). Not my best work but I am fond of it and hopefully it fits okay.
@Rhys. I integrated Namuril by mirroring the loss of a father at the Celwynvian fiasco (which works great because I already had written his passing and you gave me a great event to tie it to), making mention of Namuril's departure from Arsmeril and mentioning that Zaladrel has basically refound Namuril in Sandpoint. I figure that gives the elves some solid bonds but keeps it loose enough that we don't have to be super fast friends or can still role play the "getting to know you" aspects without it seeming to not match the back story. Let me know if you think it doesn't work.
DM Wellard, quick question. I've just recently downloaded The Brinewall Legacy and I'm guessing that it contains information about Shalelu beyond what is presented in the player's guide. I'm creating two characters to choose from for the campaign and the second one I'm making is an Elven Mobile Fighter who I want to write up as having grown up with Shalelu in Crying Leaf to give a background for the Childhood Crush trait. Would you mind either giving me some historical background on her from the book or allowing me to look at that information in The Brinewall Legacy so that I can get information my character would know about Shalelu's past? If neither is alright, that's fine, I'll just write a more general past for him. Thanks!
My initial idea was a half-orc, but that got nixed. I was thiiis close to playing a dwarf, but changed my mind to human last minute.
DM Wellard, quick question. I've just recently downloaded The Brinewall Legacy and I'm guessing that it contains information about Shalelu beyond what is presented in the player's guide. I'm creating two characters to choose from for the campaign and the second one I'm making is an Elven Mobile Fighter who I want to write up as having grown up with Shalelu in Crying Leaf to give a background for the Childhood Crush trait. Would you mind either giving me some historical background on her from the book or allowing me to look at that information in The Brinewall Legacy so that I can get information my character would know about Shalelu's past? If neither is alright, that's fine, I'll just write a more general past for him. Thanks!
Let me check that to see if there is any GM only info first..if not I'll give you a page reference..
btw Namuril was brought up in Crying Leaf and is a student of Shalelu's.
Let me check that to see if there is any GM only info first..if not I'll give you a page reference..
btw Namuril was brought up in Crying Leaf and is a student of Shalelu's.
Thank you! I noticed that Namuril was from Crying Leaf as well, or at least was raised there. Rhys, I know you've already coordinated your backgrounds with another PC in the game, so it wouldn't be a problem for me to write my own in such a way as to circumvent the need for you and I to coordinate on the background, as well. Just let me know! Thanks!
So we'll be 4 humans and 3 elves? I think that is kinda funny. I can't quite explain why.
Once, in the dim and far days of high school, an AD&D group I was in all created elves and humans: two of each race, with a male and female represented from each race. My characters quip as the party was heading to the dungeon: "Hey! Let's make half-elves!" ;)
Ah, the follies of youth . . .
Thank you! I noticed that Namuril was from Crying Leaf as well, or at least was raised there. Rhys, I know you've already coordinated your backgrounds with another PC in the game, so it wouldn't be a problem for me to write my own in such a way as to circumvent the need for you and I to coordinate on the background, as well. Just let me know! Thanks!
If you'd like to build upon my character's backstory (in relation to your own), feel free; conversely, if you'd like to write up the background with little or no contact with Namuril, that's fine, too. Honestly, there was very little coordination; it was more like:
PirateDevon: "Hey, Rhys! Can we say that my guy knew your guy?"
Me: "Okay!"
So, it's no big deal. :)
If you'd like to build upon my character's backstory (in relation to your own), feel free; conversely, if you'd like to write up the background with little or no contact with Namuril, that's fine, too. Honestly, there was very little coordination; it was more like:PirateDevon: "Hey, Rhys! Can we say that my guy knew your guy?"
Me: "Okay!"So, it's no big deal. :)
Cool. Thanks! I'll have both of the characters ready and posted tonight for everybody to look at. I really can't decide which of the two to go with, so I'd like to get everyone else's input on them both.
Cool. Thanks! I'll have both of the characters ready and posted tonight for everybody to look at. I really can't decide which of the two to go with, so I'd like to get everyone else's input on them both.
Good deal! I'll be happy to offer input.
DM Wellard: Never mind about the Shalelu background information. The more I think about deciding between the two characters, the more I lean towards my Ulfen. I'll be posting him tonight after I get home from work and make some tweaks to his background.
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PirateDevon: "Hey, Rhys! Can we say that my guy knew your guy?"
Me: "Okay!"So, it's no big deal. :)
Eexxaccttlllyyy. Having been witness to more than a few attempts at overly complicated character history connections I always try to write them as "yea they knew each other" and move on from there. That way if the characters expound on it as the game progresses, then the implied connection was strong. If they don't, then the characters went to the same middle school or something and never really talked.
Once, in the dim and far days of high school, an AD&D group I was in all created elves and humans: two of each race, with a male and female represented from each race. My characters quip as the party was heading to the dungeon: "Hey! Let's make half-elves!" ;)
Ah, the follies of youth . . .
I think those are why the game is fun, especially in those early days when you would laugh at those sorts of jokes and then remind each other of them. Of course, I still do that so I'm not sure I should say in those "early days", ha.
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Bah you youngsters and your new fangled races I was playing this game before we even HAD half elves.
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Bah you youngsters and your new fangled races I was playing this game before we even HAD half elves.
Yeah I can claim a longer tooth in the game even than many my age but I had a fancy "Second Edition" printed on my book and I even ended up with "Players Options" at one point...oh Skills and Powers you silly silly book.
Do you remember when races WERE classes!!
I do! I was a third level dwarf.