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Yay! I got the alias set up, the only thing I changed was alignment, if that is ok, from CN to CG, meant to do it some time ago but forgot to. If you want me to stick with CN that is fine.
Checking in!
... and rolling
Greetings, gentlefolk. Matias and I are glad to be counted among you!
Hey Doctor Gii, I was looking at Matias' stat block and I noticed it currently knows 6 tricks. I was under the impression that, at first level, animal companions only knew 1 trick (the bonus trick), and we had to teach them the others using the Handle Animal skill during the game. Am I mistaken? Because I would certainly like if Zoren knew a couple more tricks... :)
Hail, fellow travelers.
Honestly, I copied that part straight from the Iconic Druid. I'll change it if the DM requires it, but I would assume that anyone with an animal companion that they start the game with would have some time to train/build a report with that animal.
To be safe, though, I changed it so that Gii's skill point in Sense Motive is in Handle Animal, now. I'll need it to teach Matias tricks in the future, I suppose. :3
Hello fellow adventurers!
Hi guys.
Out of curiosity what time zones are you guys in? I myself am in pacific standard time.
Greetings everybody! I wasn't expecting such news to come in so soon, making it all the more pleasant...
(UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (Indiana)
Currently UTC-2:00 (São Paulo) due to daylight saving time, normally UTC-3:00.
EST, New York time or whatever it is called.
Also EST, here. I keep weird hours, though.
[sudden_moment_of_clarity] In which I only now realize how, due to DST being anti-phasic between the two hemispheres, places like coastal Brazil and - say - Poland end up being just 3 hours away in terms of time zones for 6 months a year. [/sudden_moment_of_clarity]
Yay! I got the alias set up, the only thing I changed was alignment, if that is ok, from CN to CG, meant to do it some time ago but forgot to. If you want me to stick with CN that is fine.
Welcome! :)
I am fine with the alignment tweak.
I need you to to change your point buy stats from 27 to 20.
I love using this: Point Buy Calculater
Out of curiosity what time zones are you guys in? I myself am in pacific standard time.
I am also in Pacific standard time.
I'm in GMT+1 (continental Europe – yep that's a full 9 hour difference!). Hope it doesn't interfere with the game's flow too much, though I have discovered it isn't that big of an issue in practice as it might seem.
[sudden_moment_of_clarity] In which I only now realize how, due to DST being anti-phasic between the two hemispheres, places like coastal Brazil and - say - Poland end up being just 3 hours away in terms of time zones for 6 months a year. [/sudden_moment_of_clarity]
I went to a high school with a huge portion of the student body being international students. It was a blast! :)
27? Did you take racial adjustments into account? I'll dbl check in a bit.
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Whoops, you're right, not sure how did that. I will fix it in a bit.
I believe so. Make sure to double check, just in case (Possibly, I could be incorrect).
Do you have an opinion on my animal companion's tricks known, Tarfugal? I don't see how it'll hurt to leave them as-is, and it'd be a pain to worry about training Matias the five extra tricks he would be capable of learning once we get started. But you're the man in charge, so I'll do as you wish.
There, got the stat build fixed and made the corrections.
I went to a high school with a huge portion of the student body being international students. It was a blast! :)I'm in GMT+1 (continental Europe – yep that's a full 9 hour difference!). Hope it doesn't interfere with the game's flow too much, though I have discovered it isn't that big of an issue in practice as it might seem.
[sudden_moment_of_clarity] In which I only now realize how, due to DST being anti-phasic between the two hemispheres, places like coastal Brazil and - say - Poland end up being just 3 hours away in terms of time zones for 6 months a year. [/sudden_moment_of_clarity]
Nice to know! Indeed, I remember the West Coast being pretty cosmopolitan. Also, with Arthorion Aegas it looks like I won't be the only non-native speaker in the group (if I'm correct in assuming his player's mother tongue is Portuguese). Well met!
There, got the stat build fixed and made the corrections.
Funny thing is, if you'd statted her as an Azata-blooded Aasimar, her build would have actually defaulted to a 19 point buy. Probably better that way though, for flavor and because we would have probably looked like some unlikely celestial wandering circus otherwise.
That said, I see plenty of martial potential and not too many healers. Good thing I've picked CLW as one of my two 1st level spells.
Yeah, have an azata blooded one in a skulls and shackles campaign, a riot too once everyone becomes convinced that hurting the "angel girl" would be bad luck due to the efforts of a different pc. Usually prefer tieflings myself though.
Sadly, most of my damaging spells are going to be minimally useful to useless most of the time, fortunately I will not be taking many/any as spells known. I dont mind having so many "brutes", more meat shields for me and between you and our oracle, a couple of wands are probably enough in the long run.
Gii is actually going to be skirmishing at the edge of fights using his longspear. I am probably going to change ILW to CLW (I honestly don't even recall why I had it on Gii to begin with!) so that'll be another source of healing... but not really a good one.
Maybe you took it so you can give people the bad touch?
The whole point is to never get into melee range if it can't be helped. That's what the longspear + Matias are for. D:
Ah! I found out why I had Inflict instead of Cure.
Touch of the Moon (Su): The exact effects of this revelation depend on whether you cast inflict or cure spells. If you cast inflict spells, these spells carry with them the taint of madness. Subjects who take damage from your inflict spells are also subject to confusion, as the spell, except the duration of this effect is a number of rounds equal to the level of the inflict spell. The save DC against this effect is 10 + 1/2 your oracle level + your Charisma modifier. Alternatively, if you cast cure spells, these spells are potentially more effective but entirely in the target's mind. Whenever you cast a cure spell, you can cast it as though it were enhanced with the Empower Spell metamagic feat by expending two spell slots, except these hit points are temporary. This does not increase the level of the spell. Hit points healed this way expire after a number of minutes equal to half your oracle level. You must be at least 7th level to select this revelation.
Being able to do damage and confuse the target at the same time is kind of fantastic. I think I will stick with Inflict, after all. A wand shouldn't be too hard to come by. :)
I see, not bad, the only issue I see with that is the fact that you have to get adjacent to them to use it, kinda defeating the purpose of staying back with the reach weapon. Of course, if you get reach spell that changes immensely. I have to say that the cure effect of that is freaking awesome too, precast a cure or two for the temp hp and forget them afterwards, if combined with maximize that is an insane amount of temp hp.
If the lack of healing becomes too big an issue we could all chip in for a wand. Otherwise one of my backup character ideas is a sorcerer/cleric mystic theurge. If Volaticus dies then I might bring him in.
It's going to be something I'd pick up around level 10. Hopefully I'll be slightly less squishy by then. ;)
In the meantime, I'd probably not going to be using too many of my daily spells on either CLW or ILW, anyway. D:
Tiferet has taken Skald's Vigor as her 1st level feat, potentially solving her own healing issues so that she can use her CLW on others (at 2/day, it won't be much but it's still something). At level 11, she will be able to pick its greater variant allowing her to share her fast healing with the whole party – though it's still quite a long way to go.
@DM Tarfugal: would you allow taking the Celestial Obedience feat? I'd have to wait until 3rd level to satisfy the requirements, but in the meantime I thought Tiferet could be performing the ritual for RP's sake as part of her ancestral traditions, finally unlocking its rewards once her Knowledge (planes) skill is high enough... To be more specific
Kneel naked outdoors at night while dipping your hands in two bowls of tepid water. Slowly raise your hands above your head and hold them there until the water from both bowls has evaporated. Gain a +4 sacred bonus on saves against cold effects.
This may sound like a dumb quesstion, but are we starting the same time our fearless leader Tarfugal said earlier or shall we start sooner or later?
For what is worth, I'd personally prefer starting a bit earlier or even later, as from December 30th to January 4th I'll probably be spending a couple of days skiing in the mountains. I'm still going to have Internet, but being forced to post from mobile would most likely prevent me from fully engaging into those nice introductory interactions that usually mark the beginning of a new campaign.
This is just me, of course. I've got no intentions to force anything on anyone, if everybody's fine with the current timetable I'll catch up with you guys as soon as I come back, no problem.
I'd hope maybe we'd start earlier as well, I imagine we will anyway, still, we'll see.
@DM Tarfugal: would you allow taking the Celestial Obedience feat? I'd have to wait until 3rd level to satisfy the requirements, but in the meantime I thought Tiferet could be performing the ritual for RP's sake as part of her ancestral traditions, finally unlocking its rewards once her Knowledge (planes) skill is high enough... To be more specificKneel naked outdoors at night while dipping your hands in two bowls of tepid water. Slowly raise your hands above your head and hold them there until the water from both bowls has evaporated. Gain a +4 sacred bonus on saves against cold effects.
I plan on taking the deific obedience feat and possibly going into the evangelist prestige class. (I just bought the inner sea gods book and it has some cool stuff)
Gii was actually a Cleric 5/Evangelist 1 in the game before this, and I'm still considering going Oracle 5/Evangelist X for this game, as well. It's a really, really cool prestige class that has lots of neat stuff, on top of progressing your primary class.
Honestly, a party with a couple Evangelists of different deities would be pretty hilarious to see. Religious debates, religious debates everywhere!
Do you have an opinion on my animal companion's tricks known, Tarfugal? I don't see how it'll hurt to leave them as-is, and it'd be a pain to worry about training Matias the five extra tricks he would be capable of learning once we get started. But you're the man in charge, so I'll do as you wish.
I think its fine. Keep the tricks.
@DM Tarfugal: would you allow taking the Celestial Obedience feat? I'd have to wait until 3rd level to satisfy the requirements, but in the meantime I thought Tiferet could be performing the ritual for RP's sake as part of her ancestral traditions, finally unlocking its rewards once her Knowledge (planes) skill is high enough... To be more specific.
Sure! :)
That said, I see plenty of martial potential and not too many healers. Good thing I've picked CLW as one of my two 1st level spells.
I was surprised by how many martial submissions there were in the recruitment thread. Made for some interesting (Hard) choices.
This may sound like a dumb quesstion, but are we starting the same time our fearless leader Tarfugal said earlier or shall we start sooner or later?
Good question! At the earliest this friday, at the latest this saturday. I will be participating in a christmas eve party today. I will be celebrating christmas with my family tomorrow.
Honestly, a party with a couple Evangelists of different deities would be pretty hilarious to see. Religious debates, religious debates everywhere!
"The deities of Golarion are merely pieces of the great Tarfugal. The debate is over!"
Neat. In that case, I believe Gii and Matias are 100% ready to go. :)
I plan on taking the deific obedience feat and possibly going into the evangelist prestige class. (I just bought the inner sea gods book and it has some cool stuff)
Agreed. I think character building (be they NPCs, demigods or full-fledged deities) and the development of impactful thematics is where Paizo is at its best – very strong flavor and creative re-imagining of tropes taken from the most disparate contexts, from classic mythology to standard modern fantasy. All wrapped up in a nice, pulp-like sauce.
Gii was actually a Cleric 5/Evangelist 1 in the game before this, and I'm still considering going Oracle 5/Evangelist X for this game, as well. It's a really, really cool prestige class that has lots of neat stuff, on top of progressing your primary class.
Indeed it is. You basically sacrifice one level in your main class to reap a bunch of very tasty benefits, last but not least being able to cast powerful 9th level spells as early as level 14...
@DM Tarfugal: would you allow taking the Celestial Obedience feat? I'd have to wait until 3rd level to satisfy the requirements, but in the meantime I thought Tiferet could be performing the ritual for RP's sake as part of her ancestral traditions, finally unlocking its rewards once her Knowledge (planes) skill is high enough... To be more specific.Sure! :)
Thanks!
That said, I see plenty of martial potential and not too many healers. Good thing I've picked CLW as one of my two 1st level spells.I was surprised by how many martial submissions there were in the recruitment thread. Made for some interesting (Hard) choices.
That's a trend I've also observed. In most recruitments I took part, demographics have often tended to resemble something like Martials>>Arcane>Divine>>Skills. To the point I've yet to be paired with a rogue.
This may sound like a dumb question, but are we starting the same time our fearless leader Tarfugal said earlier or shall we start sooner or later?Good question! At the earliest this friday, at the latest this saturday. I will be participating in a christmas eve party today. I will be celebrating christmas with my family tomorrow.
As it should be. Merry Christmas (which I can rightly say since it's already 2.30 here)!
Honestly, a party with a couple Evangelists of different deities would be pretty hilarious to see. Religious debates, religious debates everywhere!"The deities of Golarion are merely pieces of the great Tarfugal. The debate is over!"
Does that mean we get the Deific Obedience (GM) feat for free then?
Happy holidays all!
Happy holidays
Happy holidays. :)
Merry Kuthona's Day (or something like that :)
I hope everyone here had a merry christmas!
Also, with Arthorion Aegas it looks like I won't be the only non-native speaker in the group (if I'm correct in assuming his player's mother tongue is Portuguese).
Indeed, you are correct! People, feel free to point out any mistakes on my part, so I can improve my writing. I do proofread my posts but sometime I only realize I've made a mistake after the 1-hour wdit window is through. :P
Considering our lack of healing capabilities, I've decided to make a few changes to Arthorion to up his AC and make him harder to hit, since he'll probably be the main melee combatant. I swapped the greatsword for a longsword and heavy shield, and added an armored kilt to his gear (reducing his speed from 40 ft. to 30 ft.).
Also, I gave Zoren six tricks on top of the bonus trick, as per DM Tarfugal's ruling on animal companions. ;)
Matias will be getting a chain shirt barding as soon as I can afford it, so he'll help your AC out on the tanking front. I think as long as we're careful and don't just charge into stuff, we can try to coax stuff to run into our longspears and magic.
I am also definitely okay with most of our early-game funds going into buying a wand of CLW so we can keep patched up. Gii is going to have quite a bit of buffing spells, so I imagine he can toss out some Shield of Faith on the ACs and front-liners if their armor class is kinda low. :)
Also, in regards to english being your secondary language: I'm well on my way to becoming a teacher with an ESOL certification, so if you have any questions about how to phrase stuff in English, feel free to ask me!
Indeed, you are correct! People, feel free to point out any mistakes on my part, so I can improve my writing. I do proofread my posts but sometime I only realize I've made a mistake after the 1-hour width window is through. :P
I feel your pain and I join you in your invite. I oftentimes end up with lingering doubts whether some construction I've just used was phrased correctly or not, so if any of you happens to spot a couple of oddities here and there in my prose, corrections would be most welcome (especially coming from a soon-to-be ESOL-certified teacher). Thanks!
As for our healing blues, Tiferet technically has the Scribe Scroll feat as a class feature, but she lacks the ranks in Spellcraft to actually put it to good use. I'll probably want to invest into that particular branch sooner or later, but as of now even choosing to get that extra skill point per level over the bonus hp (further exacerbating her "glass cannon" status) I'm sorely hard-pressed to adequately cover even her supposedly "core fields" (basically knowledge, perform and diplomacy).
So yeah, count another vote in the "let's buy a wand of CLW asap" ballot ;)
First post is up. Hope everyone had a good time yesterday.
Neat. In that case, I believe Gii and Matias are 100% ready to go. :)
Excellent!
Also, I gave Zoren six tricks on top of the bonus trick, as per DM Tarfugal's ruling on animal companions.
Cheers! :)
I feel your pain and I join you in your invite. I oftentimes end up with lingering doubts whether some construction I've just used was phrased correctly or not, so if any of you happens to spot a couple of oddities here and there in my prose, corrections would be most welcome (especially coming from a soon-to-be ESOL-certified teacher). Thanks!
Hopefully, we will all get better at what we do in this campaign.
Does that mean we get the Deific Obedience (GM) feat for free then?
;D
Just realized I've never explicitly stated the object of Tiferet's Attached drawback. It's her Holy Symbol, an artifact from a time before the witches passed down from generation to generation among her clan, and a memento of what they once were and what they aspire to be again.
OR, as per the drawback's description, I'd be happy to have our GM pick another item of his choice in its stead – mostly to alleviate my sense of guilt over my particular choice potentially having netted me one free trait. Or even better, as I've seen happening, have you, DM Tarfugal, pick a drawback for me from scratch, with both its repercussions and ramifications.
Other than that, just a quick, mostly aesthetic question: would you rather we use the ARG rules for Aasimar age categories, or just declare they simply age as humans do? Both are fine with me, mostly a matter of self-consistency between Tiferet and Doctor Gii... (since I figure it would have no in-game mechanical consequence whatsoever, I'm not aiming this question only at the GM – Seranov's input would also be greatly appreciated!).
I've always thought that putting age categories for all tiefling/aasimar was a little strange since, depending on the heritage, I would expect to see a very large difference between them. I mean, let's face it, a demon born tiefling or azata blooded aasimar I would think ages like a human, burning out fast so to speak, where as a devil or archon born is more in line with the "approved" age ranges.
Since Gii is a Scion of Humanity Aasimar, and his celestial blood is suuuuuuuuper thin, he's pretty much just a human with a bit of angel blood running through him. It'll help him live longer (hopefully!) and gives him some powers that the average human would never have, but he's pretty much human to anybody who looks at him.
I think that, since it's highly unlikely that Age categories will ever really come into effect, it probably doesn't matter? Aasimar are kind of special in that they, like Tieflings, come in all kinds of shapes and sizes. I don't think having some age quicker and some slower would be terrible out of line, either mechanically or fluff-wise.