Tirion Jörðhár |
We have a Rogue, a Ranger and me with 16 Int and high Charisma, so actually we have most skills reasonable well covered. A straight Bard would be good. Animal Speaker might be an interesting archetype which would not take most of the useful skills and adds a few interesting ones like Summon Nature's Ally.
There is always Dancing Dervish and Arcane Duelist if you are inclined, although both take the Bardic Knowledge ability away which is useful in a party with no wizard. Some people love Savage Skald which would fit with the Barbarian, although I have never been able to feel this archetype.
Cleric(evangilist) could fit in and take away some of the healbot of the normal cleric. I suppose an Inquisitor would be another interesting option giving you solid combat and some fun skills.
Either way, as long as you can deal with me in yet another campaign, I would love to have you join us in saving the Elsir Vale Shifty.
Shifty |
Yay on Thief>Rogue, Rogue is my favourite class, only because the classic 1st ed Thief is no longer around!
I looked at the animal speaker, and double range in the woods was sweet, but I am not sure how often we are in that terrain so steering away from situational stuff.
Dancing Dervish is a bit to cliche, if you kick a rock down a street you hit half a dozen of them and I looked at Arcane Duelist which was VERY VERY close to being picked, but the loss of Bardic Knowledge, and the Arcane Bond limitation put me off.
Savage Skald was also a REALLY REALLY close choice, and I think they look great, but the inability to incite rage on self was a bit sucky, they'd be amazing in a Barbarian/Viking campaign though, and I will take one if that comes up one day.
Cleric evangelist isn't too bad, but I just feel its Winter II from a roleplay perspective, and the Inquisitors just aren't upbeat and happy enough and this party looks like a classic 'Good Guys(TM)' party, so wanted something light and upbeat. Heroes we have, but now we have added Alan A'Dale.
I think the Bardbarian should do the trick.
Tirion Jörðhár |
Sounds good. Also, as we are level 8, being able to give +2 with Inspire Courage and starting it as a Move action are pretty sweet.
Regarding the Inquisitor, I am just testing out the class although my two potential inquisitors are both multi-class as I think Inquisitor/Monk is a great combo due to the commonality with Wisdom and Strength being key stats. I may find I hate it or love it, the decision is still up in the air.
As far as the Oracle goes, I agree with you. Oracles get all the spell limitation drawbacks of a sorcerer, far fewer cool class skills and have the added bonus of being cursed which usually results in the player forgetting that their character is cursed. I have tried to create several oracles and have never managed to get a feel for one.
Shifty |
I've had two, both were pretty funky, but in both cases the Curses were problematic - one was Haunted, which meant the GM had the view that you just got screwed 24/7 and it had to be a CURSE and screw-over, and then there was Auri - the problem was the party kept forgetting he was cursed and yelling instructions he couldn't understand :P
Inqy/Monk...could work, but somehow I just don't see it playing well and giving thematic licence.
Yeah the Bardic performance should be great. Then add spellcasting buffs, then he can engage combat too and be a melee monster.
Bofus Beerswizzler |
This will give us a lot of options. I like it. Shifty, if you care, Bofus has UMD high enough to use wands/staves with relative ease in combat--adds in versatility, and I can be a second-rate healer.
Thordak son of Throtgar |
Oi lads! So I was thinking and I could take that amulet of natural armor! I'd like to give Lulu some more protection--ideally some kind of armor but this would be good too. Any thoughts?
Bofus Beerswizzler |
great idea. If no one wants it for their use, cohorts/animal companions is the way to go!
DM Harpwizard |
Hi folks,
Yesterday, we had an amazing hiking trip out in Grafton Notch. This is actually in Maine in the Carter Mahoosics. We went up a four thousand footer called Old Speck. My wife is doing a survey of bird counts for her externship. Yesterday we had to get up at 3:45 am and walk out to six different remote sites around the peak to listen to various mountain birds including the Bicknell's Thrush, the Swainson's Thrush, White Throated Sparrows and Winter Wrens. It was an amazing time, and I do love camping, but waking up at that time is unnatural. I am looking forward to some R&R time, but that is not happening yet.
I am leaving on another trip up to Huntington Ravine this afternoon and will be up again at the crack of dawn. I will be back in the early afternoon tomorrow, but then I am racing off to play at a wedding in the afternoon. Life is good, but a little too busy at the moment. I think things will settle down by early next week. As always, I will post when I can.
Bofus Beerswizzler |
I certainly hope you're rested enough for our little trip to Indianapolis in August, my friend. :-) That sounds like a brutal "recreational" schedule ya got going there. 3:45?!?! Yeesh. I woke up that early for fencing tournaments from time to time, but that was when I was young and in shape and stuff.
Tirion Jörðhár |
Had to wake up that early for a flight last year. It left at 5:30 a.m., so we had to be to the airport by 4:30. OK, we could have gotten there at 5:15, but the other half of my family did not think that would be a great idea.
Generally, I am opposed to waking up that early. On a positive note, we are supposed to close on our home here in Chicago tomorrow. My fingers are crossed that all goes as planned, then it is finishing packing and heading east on August 12 - that is our expected date.
Tirion Jörðhár |
Dead of winter in the mountains where DMHW and I grew up is -40C with winds of up to 400kph. Ok, they only reached 400 once, and there are usually not more than a few days a year with the -40, but I remember many many days with -30. Went skiing once at about -37C with 100kph wind. That made for some brutal wind chill.
Mount Washington NH - January 2013
It is much more pleasant to hike in the summer in New Hampshire.
DM Harpwizard |
Last night at seven minutes past midnight, my wife and I awoke in our shelter to the sound of something making a noise in the bushes. I quickly turned on my headlamp to see what was making the sound. Standing about five feet away stood a huge moose eating from branches of a tree! She just stood there chomping away, ignoring my headlamp. We got a view for about three or four minutes before she moved on. It was an awesome sight. I was filled with a sense of relief and awe. Mostly, I was just glad that it was not a bear!
Bofus Beerswizzler |
And you were probably also glad that the moose didn't pull the tired old joke "Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!"
Tirion Jörðhár |
You see, in Australia, they have the Platypus, the animal god created with all the extra parts that were left over when he finished all the other animals. In New Hampshire, we have the Moose, the animal that god gave up on and left half finished. In the summer it goes to the lowlands where it is hot and hangs out in swamps. In the winter it goes to the top of mountains where it is freezing. It's head is sort of malformed and its racks (calling them antlers is being generous) are simply large chunks of cartilage that grow out of their heads each summer.
Nonetheless, they are cool to see. Glad it was a friendly cow and not an annoyed bull.
Tirion Jörðhár |
DMHW - you remember when some moron in Groveton shot the bull moose with bird shot? It came stampeding through the high school parking lot and trampled about a half dozen cars before the police got there and finished the job. Pretty sure we were in elementary school when it happened.
DM Harpwizard |
Well, I did it again! My brothers and I are going to go see Rush in Quebec City on July 10th. The concert is at their summer festival and is being held outside on a stage on the Plains of Abraham. In 2010 when they played at this same festival, they had about 88,000 people there to watch! Man, this has great potential. It is even general admission. I wonder how early I would need to get there to get front row seats?
Tirion, I saw your folks at a memorial I played at on Friday. They look great! I've got another gig in the morning, and a baseball game tomorrow night. Let's see how much posting I get done. Enjoy the rest of your weekend folks!
DM Harpwizard |
I made it back early. Interesting development with Mantooth vs. Matthias for Magistrate. I am not sure how to resolve that one. It's a shame the discussion did not come up before Jarmaath declared Mantooth to be magistrate. Oh well, life can sometimes be rather messy. For the moment. Jarmaath's decision stands and Mantooth is the temporary magistrate, but if you think the decision needs to be changed, you will have to bring it up with Jarmaath and make your case such that it is not a retcon. In the meantime, there is much that needs to be done. Let's just keep things moving along.
DM Harpwizard |
What an experience! The concert was outdoors in Quebec at their summer festival and it was general admission. So my bros and I showed up at 2 pm in the afternoon for the 8:30 pm show. Lots of waiting but once they opened the gates at 6 pm, we ran and reached the front row! We endured lots of rain and were soaking wet while we waited, but finally the show began. It was phenomenal for the first two hours. About 60 thousand crazy rush fans were behind me, and we were having a blast watching Geddy, Neil and Alex jam out! But then it started to thunder and lightning and they immediately ended the show before they got to all of their classics. I went from this tremendous high to pure disappointment! What a strange feeling! I will remember this experience for a long time!
DM Harpwizard |
Congratulations, Tirion! We are glad you've been with us! Your characters in all of your campaigns have been great! It has also been a nice way to stay in touch with you!
Well, today I was at Solarfest. What a cool event! Vermont seems way on top of things when it comes to sustainability! We got to listen to Ben Cohen of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream. Very cool people.
Bofus Beerswizzler |
don't worry Tirion--I'd already done that when you came to visit a while back. HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW
Tirion Jörðhár |
Just as a note, next Wednesday I will be driving to the east coast and will have limited internet on Wed-Thursday. My family is moving to the east coast and I may or may not have reliable internet access (or I may have tons if it gets set up). I am the advance party with the rest of the family following in a few weeks.
If I am slow on posting, this is likely why. I shall attempt to post at least once per day, but I really do not know how reliable my posting will be for anywhere from a day or two to two weeks. We are going to get internet from Comcast, and that is always a crap shoot at best.
Tirion Jörðhár |
Have fun. I remember climbing Madison with you many years ago. We finished by like 11 a.m. and then were unsure what to do with the rest of the day.
Anyone know what spells I have cast today? I believe that it is Charm Person and Mage Armor on myself. I was going to cast Mage Armor on Red and a second Charm Person, but it does not look like I got either of those off.
Also, I might have cast Fly on Bofus to help him get into the Kaal Mansion, but do not remember whether I did.
Bofus Beerswizzler |
Tirion--no Fly on Bofus.
Red--holy geeze!! You'll have to show me that build. I've got a barbarian (Invulnerable Rager) that isn't THAT badass.
Rebel Red |
Build is up in profile :)
Overall its a great utility build backed with a chunk of melee crunch, but it has its weak spots that is certain. Didn't think there was a point showing up with the typical 'bard' that is al flash and no sizzle - gotta earn his keep up the frontlines.
DM Harpwizard |
Have fun. I remember climbing Madison with you many years ago. We finished by like 11 a.m. and then were unsure what to do with the rest of the day.
I remember that hike! We had such a good time! Perhaps that's why I remember the trail to be much shorter. Today I did it with my uncle. You remember "Bungee"? He's done all 48 of his four thousand footers in NH, but he has slowed down a great deal since '92. Today it took us about ten and a half hours for 8.4 miles. This did include lunch and a tea break at Madison Spring Hut. We made it off the mountain around 7:30 pm. It was a fun day, but I'm glad to be home. I think I'm off to bed shortly.