Thank you Lia but as you can see so far, Drasven hasn't seen a need to really use his axe. Karmid has the department of huge weapons and damage covered to a T.
I think i've played with Kamen rider before in another game that didn't last long enough but I'd think he was a decent roleplayer as well. I'll chalk it up to simple mistake of not reading what happened. I know I'm guilty at times when joining and in progress game.
Oh, I believe Kamen is a decent player. I doubt GM would scrape the bottom of the barrel to throw in with the lot of us.
I'm certain there was a sensible reason for picking him.
Alas, certain no-goes don't work in certain groups or situations. As said, I also had a weapon aimed at me when dopple and me were in the basement, I didn't even consider that to be offensive.
Considering we are in a very, very specific situation right now, I just found it harsh that he insisted on his viewpoint.
I'm quite fine with players having taboos, and some are enforced by the boards themselves, but that? Too black/white for me. There's so many situations where players, accidentally, as part of a plan, or by chance come into potential conflict with one another.
Throwing all that RP potential out of the window on the basis that we're players, and no reason beyond that, just doesn't click for me.
Scenario: Someone polymorphs into a double of Ro and kills Father Zantus, being identified, while the real Ro was doing some sneaky stuff in town she did not tell us about.
We are informed of the murder and scour the city. We find a Ro sneaking about.
BAM, we magically know wether it's "real Ro"(so that we don't accidently aim a weapon on her or tell her something unfriendly, like ordering her to stop sneaking), or "fake Ro"(who was polymorphed, and can be killed on sight since she's not a PC).
We even know that before we find out that it was not real Ro who performed the murder.
I can't wrap my mind around it. Such situations, to me, are supposed to be resolved in-character, not with Meta-Knowledge.
Great idea for a scenario Lia :-)
Hu-hum, there was something about not giving the GM ideas somewhere, right?
Damn.
Either way, I like that kind of stuff, and often include it in campaigns I run too. Not all the time, of course, but it can be a nice change of pace.
E.g. that scenario - If the framed party member convinces the others of her innocence, they may still need to help her restore her good standing, find who was really responsible, while operating below the radar and keeping their friend out of the line of fire(since obviously, there will be NPC's who brush aside any un-proven explanation as false loyalty to a criminal) - that is, operate on the other side of the law, possibly avoiding former allies until the situation is resolved while making sure they do nothing to make things worse.
Hu-hum, there was something about not giving the GM ideas somewhere, right? Damn.
I'm pretty sure that's right up there with "Never split the party!" and "Never deal with a Dragon!" when it comes to any game like this.
I thought "Never deal with a Dragon" was specific to systems where they are not conveniently color-coded? Specifically Shadowrun?
That said, it was fun to spoof an order for a Party Pizza with extra Dragon Meat to Saeder-Krupp, with a delivery address to someone you did not like. If you were absolutely certain you could not be traced.
@Drasven: Yes, don't worry about it. The only reason Ro didn't beat you to it is she had already used her action that round.
@Lia: Hm, yeah I guess Ro does tend to sneak around on her own quite a bit. Old habits and all that, always busy. And I guess she's also the one most likely to turn on, uh, turn to the party... yes. When uh... she needs help with... um, personal problems...
eep.
I thought "Never deal with a Dragon" was specific to systems where they are not conveniently color-coded? Specifically Shadowrun? That said, it was fun to spoof an order for a Party Pizza with extra Dragon Meat to Saeder-Krupp, with a delivery address to someone you did not like. If you were absolutely certain you could not be traced.
I was going with the basic Role-Playing 'general wisdom' 101 Rules.
But whatever...
Shadowrun is an awesome game,...loved playing Physical Adepts.
I'll push this forward tomorrow night!
Recruiting a 6th ATM. Should have that person in AFTER this battle is over.
After the battle is good. At this moment of time Drasven is going to be trigger happy......
As it's a Holiday weekend, I'll give Lia till Monday and then I'll bot her to move us on.
Apologies, yes, holidays got in the way, even if we did not travel.
I'll get a post up a bit later.
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Sweet, didn't know Karmid could write :-)
He uses a Psuedo-NYMPH?...Spudo-Nooth...writes under a fake name. It embarrasses him really. The other Rangers and Barbarians would make fun of him if they knew he could wright.
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Congrats, Karmid. Not sure if I will find time to check it out, but I'm glad for you nonetheless.
@in-game, obviously my miss chance is 50%, not 20%, but it made no difference anyway.
And that's assuming there IS something invisible in the first place - if it's just a ghost sound or something, at least we know not to worry :).
Sorry all, I've had a heck of a time getting on Paizo from work lately. Thankfully things are stabilizing at home somewhat, so I should be better to post from there.
The site hasn't being all that stable recently either. You're fine
No time at the moment to look at them closely but a couple of things.
Except for the fighter submissions they are for Desnans. If we're sticking to the original concept, Desna's getting crowded with another one.
I play with Jereru in a Legacy of Fire campaign. He's been there from the beginning and still is a year later. I can vouch for his willingness and ability to stick around in campaigns. He's in Spain so posts on that time zone. Easy going and a team player.
I was hoping for another blaster-style arcanist of some sort. Despite the last's guys attitude, his character was something we kinda needed IMHO.
Otherwise...Any are OK I guess.
Aye. Thoughts.
1st: Those were built to Level 3...to be brought in after this arc is done. Does that mean we will level soon? If so, any chance I could swap to the rebuild-progression? It affects only Feats/Exploits/Traits swapping things around to keep everything working.(the alternate builds are already in the profile, below the normal ones - )
Sorry, but that was my first thought :)
2nd: As Rojava pointed out, there seem to be mostly Desna-Followers. The one god we already have 2 followers for.
4th: Chejop is a Erastil-Follower, which we just lost. And a Half-Orc(same as Katrina which was lost way earlier). His build seems to be a dex-based switch-hitter. Or has the potential for one. I don't particularily like that it seems to be somewhat optimized for what it is to do(down to river rat and the fighter dips(monk=FC) to get startoss online quickly), but considering daggers need some love and help, that seems very acceptable.
I am not 100 % convinced but would slightly favor him over the other 2. Reolus is also solidly build, but with Rojava as Archeologist we already got a skill-based trap monkey there. In other words, he would be fine in another game, but here, seems too close in role to a character we already have.
The same is true for Julia. Also rogue, also Desna, same travel-domain as Reolus. Two-weapon fighting with starknifes is fine, great, very desnan. But alas, she, as well, pushes into a role that is already taken.
Don't misunderstand, I believe their personalities are very distinct, their roles and self-understanding distinct. But mechanically, they are still "invading" on a role we already got covered.
I did kind of already say no to monkeygods submission above, but I still took a look. Desna, too, but lacks a Domain pick as godtouched. As Swash, seems more focused on the melee side of things. Would probably make a good tank. But on a direct comparison, I'd still prefer Jeruru's submission for greater flexibility.
5th(and in reply to Karmid): The original plan, I believe, was to recruit 2 people to bring us back up to 7 and cover all gods.
What I would really like to see is a (Half(for +2 Cha))-Elven Oracle(Ancient Lorekeeper) of Flame following Sarenrae and picking up Merciful Spell.
(Yeah, thats highly specific. But we have no elves, we only have a 2/3rd Divine Caster(opposed to 1 full arcane and two 2/3rd arcanes), we have no Sarenrae worshipper, and that would get some firey blasting going while keeping the option of nonlethal open(true to Sarenrae and the reason for spontaneous caster - decide on the fly)). As a Divine, with 3/4ths BaB and armor, they could also pick up a Reach Weapon and do area control and provide flanking, even if they prefer casting. Maybe either of the rogues could see themselves work something like that up?
5th(and in reply to Karmid): The original plan, I believe, was to recruit 2 people to bring us back up to 7 and cover all gods. What I would really like to see is a (Half(for +2 Cha))-Elven Oracle(Ancient Lorekeeper) of Flame following Sarenrae and picking up Merciful Spell. (Yeah, thats highly specific. But we have no elves, we only have a 2/3rd Divine Caster(opposed to 1 full arcane and two 2/3rd arcanes), we have no Sarenrae worshipper, and that would get some firey blasting going while keeping the option of nonlethal open(true to Sarenrae and the reason for spontaneous caster - decide on the fly)). As a Divine, with 3/4ths BaB and armor, they could also pick up a Reach Weapon and do area control and provide flanking, even if they prefer casting. Maybe either of the rogues could see themselves work something like that up?
Interesting you say this! I run a game IRL with an Oracle of Flame as one of my players.
The Oracle of Flame has actually been one of the most useful characters in that game since there are NO arcane casters at all in it, especially when she has finally started tossing around Fireballs and other similar spells!
The boards have been a mess since last Wednesday night. As a result I have fallen behind in all games. I'll get to this one within the next few nights if not tonight.
Edgar Gidolb - Human Fighter Dragonheir Scion
One more to consider the link was not working but the crunch was done so I'll allow it in even at this late hour, especially considering board troubles as of late. A Fighter GodTouched of Sarenrae. Take a look, I think this is the one I would pick unless anyone has a strong affinity for another submission.
Or I could go with Jereru's submission as I have him in at least two other games I DM and he is reliable and thoughtful as a poster.
I agree with Karmid that I thought our short lived visit from Shara was a great concept but if a PC does not fit better to find out sooner than later.
Lia:
1. Yes, after this battle (if you live hehe} you'll all be moving on up to level 3.
2. This is part of why I like Edgar Gidolb, a God we do not have representation for.
3. Yes, I remember this and I remember PMing with you about this very issue. I actually picked up one of the games that the DM (and I use the term loosely) dropped. A Way of the Wicked campaign that has thrived quite nicely thank you!
4. See my comments above re Edgar.
5. Yes, originally I considered moving back to 7 BUT with 2 Desna followers already I don't see the point in worrying about it.
For now I think we take just one, integrate them, and then worry a bout a 7th as we move the campaign forward...
I'd like one last round of feedback and after that I'll make the final selection.
Speaking of moving forward, updated post coming up.
Freaking DMPCs taking up all of my good rolls from my villains...
It's fine with me to take Edgar. He adds a missing deity and the Dragonheir Scion archetype looks kind of cool. Probably a more viable, effective fighter build than thrown weapons.
It would be nice to have that divine blaster caster, it would cover a weak spot nicely, but oh well. I don't think it's anything we can't work around.
It's fine with me to take Edgar. He adds a missing deity and the Dragonheir Scion archetype looks kind of cool. Probably a more viable, effective fighter build than thrown weapons.
It would be nice to have that divine blaster caster, it would cover a weak spot nicely, but oh well. I don't think it's anything we can't work around.
A "recruit" has requested a substitution for submission - an Oracle of Flame follower of Erastil instead of an Unchained Rogue. Late at this stage to change but considering the boards mess and the fact that this submission seems to be a good one for a 7th the group could be set for a while if we move this this direction...
We of course need to leave the recruit on the front porch for 3 days with no food water or encouragement. And of course the requisite supplies:
Two pairs of black shirts.
Two pairs of black pants.
One pair of combat boots.
Two pairs of black socks.
One black jacket.
300 GP personal burial money.
Actually...I like Edgar! He and I may bump heads in melee more often than not, but his character looks tight and I really like the concept!
We're going to miss having a ranged specialist however. Unless Drasven wants to start taking a bunch of crossbow enhancement feats?
=)
A "recruit" has requested a substitution for submission - an Oracle of Flame follower of Erastil instead of an Unchained Rogue. Late at this stage to change but considering the boards mess and the fact that this submission seems to be a good one for a 7th the group could be set for a while if we move this this direction.
An Oracle of Flame is an AWESOME 7th addition in my book! Who can heal? HE CAN? Who can blast Fireballs? HE CAN!
Woot!!
A "recruit" has requested a substitution for submission - an Oracle of Flame follower of Erastil
Woot!
We're going to miss having a ranged specialist however.
Hey! What am I, chopped liver?
Okay I suppose I am sort of compared to a zen archer. And I admit it's hard to be taken seriously with a shortbow. But I will have some tricks coming yet!
I am certainly going to miss having Windsight in the game. His absences were frustrating, but when he was around and posting he did it very well.
We're going to miss having a ranged specialist however.Hey! What am I, chopped liver?
Okay I suppose I am sort of compared to a zen archer. And I admit it's hard to be taken seriously with a shortbow. But I will have some tricks coming yet!
I am certainly going to miss having Windsight in the game. His absences were frustrating, but when he was around and posting he did it very well.
Sorry. I didn't realize you planned to specialize in bows.
Works for me!
=)
Yep, it's part of my comprehensive "Stay Out of Arm's Reach and Don't Get Squashed by Something" plan for living until at least 40.
And after 40 who cares anyway right?
Yep, it's part of my comprehensive "Stay Out of Arm's Reach and Don't Get Squashed by Something" plan for living until at least 40.
And after 40 who cares anyway right?
Uh yeah right who cares about that. .. not me. No sir...
Ranged Specialist? Me?
I'm afraid I'm in the wrong class to start taking crossbow enhancment feats.
I'm more of a comedic relief I fear.
I should be back up for all the roles lol.
You know like Back up range
Back up knowledge
Back up heal.
And doing it all badly. Ha ha.
As for the characters.
I like the Knife master, Dragonborn Heir fighter but the oracle of flame is defintiely one I give thumbups for.
As long as all of them are introduced after this fight, of having angry players is not a good way to have a game.
See? Oracle of Flame. As foreseen! I told you my dreams are right, usually. Sometimes.
Besides, I got the best ranged weapon of them all. I simply use a Reach Telekinetic Charge to slam Karmid into the Dragon!
Much pounce, so carnage. Amaze!
Plus, with so many enablers and disablers around, lack of an pure ranged martial becomes a non-issue. Drasven and Rojava will keep us plenty covered for our needs.(with Drasven the Backup, not being a Ranged Build)
@Drasven: One consideration MAY be, and just bringing that up because I'm not sure if you know about it, but warpriests can give up a minor respectively major blessings to instead pick up Divine Fighting Technique without any prerequisites.
No idea how useful those would be for an Abadarian, but I could see some theoretical utility out of pinning people into place for when full-attacking is not a good option. Just in case you were considering crossbow empowerment - and I don't recall you using many blessings to date. *shrug*
Your Fire Oracle checking in.
DMD seems to me that a chosen of Erastil would know how to use a longbow with some proficiency. I made a few changes to make that fit. I did some tweaking to the feats and Racial Traits.
Dragon checking in. Not the Viserys type, more the Legend of Dragoon. Oooh, spear could have been neat were I not Sarenrae focused. I look forward to joining in.
Hi both. *waves*
Just...to get that out of the way: There's a doppelganger in town and was giving us trouble. Please stick to the buddy system when possible so we don't mistake you for it.
Well there's the fire connection. Fire oracle + Dragon-Themed individual of Sarenrae. Instant friendship. :P
Yes, they will be brought in knowing one another.
Hello Jiliana and Edgar! Hopefully we will live to meet you soon!
Ready to crack some skulls and loot some bodies?
Cracking skulls and looting bodies does not seem particularly valiant... are you sure I have the correct group? Now slaying the wicked and liberating their possessions for the greater good, that seems a far nobler pursuit!
The greater good? That's Tau heresy...^_^
I assure you, our skullcraking is of the most valiant sort, with the best intentions(no kidding, we mercy-killed some gobbos to spare them what the townsfolk would have done with them).
But really, what you want to call things, thats for you meatsh--frontliners to work out. *smile*
@Drasven: One consideration MAY be, and just bringing that up because I'm not sure if you know about it, but warpriests can give up a minor respectively major blessings to instead pick up Divine Fighting Technique without any prerequisites.
No idea how useful those would be for an Abadarian, but I could see some theoretical utility out of pinning people into place for when full-attacking is not a good option. Just in case you were considering crossbow empowerment - and I don't recall you using many blessings to date. *shrug*
Saw it but due to Dex being a little underwhelming, I'll have to pass on that. As for my blessings?
Haven't gotten a good chance where I can start throwing it around as yet.
The greater good? That's Tau heresy...^_^
Well I thought for this character I'd go that route rather than Dark Eldar... or Sons of Fenris.
FYI - Waaaay later tonight (it now officially being Saturday) or Sunday night I will have IN Town posts up for Edgar and Jiliana. If not already tied together (which I don't believe you are) I will do so. I may slightly tweak the most recent parts of your past to have you both know one another.
Most of my past is malleable as the site ate the update I tried to give my history, so sometimes things work out.