Multi-class Monk & Flurry of Blows


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A quick rules question:

Does a Rogue3/Monk4 have Flurry rate of:

+2/+2 (Monk Flurry @4th)

+4/+4 (Monk Flurry @4th, +2 for 2 lvls of Rogue)

+4/+4/-1 (Monk Flurry when his BAB reaches 4)

Other (Unlikely?)

Thanks!


Andro wrote:

A quick rules question:

Does a Rogue3/Monk4 have Flurry rate of:

+2/+2 (Monk Flurry @4th)

+4/+4 (Monk Flurry @4th, +2 for 2 lvls of Rogue)

+4/+4/-1 (Monk Flurry when his BAB reaches 4)

Other (Unlikely?)

Thanks!

The rogue has a BAB of 2. The monk has a BAB of 4 when flurrying.

That is a BAB of 6. Since Flurries act like TWF the BAB is +4/+4.


+2/+2. Flurry of blows is a specific monk ability. Only improving with Monk levels


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Count Duck wrote:

+2/+2. Flurry of blows is a specific monk ability. Only improving with Monk levels

That is incorrect. I know this because the question keeps coming up. The problem is that the text that provides the answer is in the conversion document, and not in the rule book.

pathfinder conversion guide wrote:

A monk’s base attack bonus when performing a furry of blows is now equal to his level. His attacks are made as if using Two-Weapon Fighting (and its improvements at later levels). Table 3–10 summarizes these bonuses. Change your furry of blows base bonuses to match these values (plus any increases to your base attack bonus from other classes, which might give you additional attacks with your primary strike). Note that other increases to your base attack bonus do not increase the number of attacks you can make with your of hand, as the bonus feats to gain these attacks are

not gained until you reach the required level of monk.


wraithstrike wrote:
Count Duck wrote:

+2/+2. Flurry of blows is a specific monk ability. Only improving with Monk levels

That is incorrect. I know this because the question keeps coming up. The problem is that the text that provides the answer is in the conversion document, and not in the rule book.

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Their is also an official FAQ that covers this exact question. It can be found HERE


wraithstrike wrote:
Andro wrote:

A quick rules question:

Does a Rogue3/Monk4 have Flurry rate of:

+2/+2 (Monk Flurry @4th)

+4/+4 (Monk Flurry @4th, +2 for 2 lvls of Rogue)

+4/+4/-1 (Monk Flurry when his BAB reaches 4)

Other (Unlikely?)

Thanks!

The rogue has a BAB of 2. The monk has a BAB of 4 when flurrying.

That is a BAB of 6. Since Flurries act like TWF the BAB is +4/+4.

Actually, it'd be +4/+4/-1 (extra attack from 6 BAB). However, the Monk would not get the second bonus attack until they had 8 monk levels, so a Rogue 3/Monk 7 would have an attack of +7/+7/+2, a Rogue 4/Monk 7 would have a flurry of +8/+8/+3, and a Rogue 3/Monk 8 would have a flurry of +8/+8/+3/+3.


Bobson wrote:
wraithstrike wrote:
Andro wrote:

A quick rules question:

Does a Rogue3/Monk4 have Flurry rate of:

+2/+2 (Monk Flurry @4th)

+4/+4 (Monk Flurry @4th, +2 for 2 lvls of Rogue)

+4/+4/-1 (Monk Flurry when his BAB reaches 4)

Other (Unlikely?)

Thanks!

The rogue has a BAB of 2. The monk has a BAB of 4 when flurrying.

That is a BAB of 6. Since Flurries act like TWF the BAB is +4/+4.
Actually, it'd be +4/+4/-1 (extra attack from 6 BAB). However, the Monk would not get the second bonus attack until they had 8 monk levels, so a Rogue 3/Monk 7 would have an attack of +7/+7/+2, a Rogue 4/Monk 7 would have a flurry of +8/+8/+3, and a Rogue 3/Monk 8 would have a flurry of +8/+8/+3/+3.

@bobson. That is incorrect. Other bonuses do not count when figuring the number of attacks per round when a monk is using flurry of blows.

pathfinder conversion guide wrote:
A monk’s base attack bonus when performing a furry of blows is now equal to his level. His attacks are made as if using Two-Weapon Fighting (and its improvements at later levels). Table 3–10 summarizes these bonuses. Change your furry of blows base bonuses to match these values (plus any increases to your base attack bonus from other classes, which might give you additional attacks with your primary strike). Note that other increases to your base attack bonus do not increase the number of attacks you can make with your of hand, as the bonus feats to gain these attacks are
not gained until you reach the required level of monk.


Grummik wrote:
Bobson wrote:
Actually, it'd be +4/+4/-1 (extra attack from 6 BAB). However, the Monk would not get the second bonus attack until they had 8 monk levels, so a Rogue 3/Monk 7 would have an attack of +7/+7/+2, a Rogue 4/Monk 7 would have a flurry of +8/+8/+3, and a Rogue 3/Monk 8 would have a flurry of +8/+8/+3/+3.

@bobson. That is incorrect. Other bonuses do not count when figuring the number of attacks per round when a monk is using flurry of blows.

pathfinder conversion guide wrote:
A monk’s base attack bonus when performing a furry of blows is now equal to his level. His attacks are made as if using Two-Weapon Fighting (and its improvements at later levels). Table 3–10 summarizes these bonuses. Change your furry of blows base bonuses to match these values (plus any increases to your base attack bonus from other classes, which might give you additional attacks with your primary strike). Note that other increases to your base attack bonus do not increase the number of attacks you can make with your off hand, as the bonus feats to gain these attacks are not gained until you reach the required level of monk.

Might as well re-read this part.

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ShadowChemosh wrote:


Their is also an official FAQ that covers this exact question. It can be found HERE

Yes, please read the FAQ entry on this topic. :)


Louis IX wrote:
Grummik wrote:
Bobson wrote:
Actually, it'd be +4/+4/-1 (extra attack from 6 BAB). However, the Monk would not get the second bonus attack until they had 8 monk levels, so a Rogue 3/Monk 7 would have an attack of +7/+7/+2, a Rogue 4/Monk 7 would have a flurry of +8/+8/+3, and a Rogue 3/Monk 8 would have a flurry of +8/+8/+3/+3.

@bobson. That is incorrect. Other bonuses do not count when figuring the number of attacks per round when a monk is using flurry of blows.

pathfinder conversion guide wrote:
A monk’s base attack bonus when performing a furry of blows is now equal to his level. His attacks are made as if using Two-Weapon Fighting (and its improvements at later levels). Table 3–10 summarizes these bonuses. Change your furry of blows base bonuses to match these values (plus any increases to your base attack bonus from other classes, which might give you additional attacks with your primary strike). Note that other increases to your base attack bonus do not increase the number of attacks you can make with your off hand, as the bonus feats to gain these attacks are not gained until you reach the required level of monk.

Might as well re-read this part.

Exactly. You don't get an extra attack with the off hand, but you do get your normal extra attack with the main hand from having a +6 BAB. That's exactly why I pointed out the difference between a Rogue 4/Monk 7 and Rogue 3/Monk 8 (both of which would have a +10 FlurryBAB).


In conclusion, for those of us who like it crystal clear:

Bobson is correct. He wins an Internet.

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Repeated for truth:
a Rogue 4/Monk 7 would have a flurry of +8/+8/+3
a Rogue 3/Monk 8 would have a flurry of +8/+8/+3/+3


Sean K Reynolds wrote:
ShadowChemosh wrote:


Their is also an official FAQ that covers this exact question. It can be found HERE
Yes, please read the FAQ entry on this topic. :)

Hi, there! I clicked the hyperlink in the post you quoted, but it seems to take me nowhere helpful, insofar as this topic goes. Can you help me find the right info, please?

Thanks much!


Well this thread is 5 years old. Links probably got messed up.

From what I recall you look up the attack sequence for a monk of your level, and then add the BAB from other classes to determine your total BAB for those attacks.

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