Okay, we're on night 4, so..
As soon as Paolo postsEveryone gets TWO more experience points
Sorry. Been a touch under the weather.
Now that he's posted, Paolo will burn 5xp to get Dominate 2. That should leave him with 3 knocking around.
Okay, we're on night 4, so..
As soon as Paolo postsEveryone gets TWO more experience points
Sorry. Been a touch under the weather.
Now that he's posted, Paolo will burn 5xp to get Dominate 2. That should leave him with 3 knocking around.
What, did you think I was trying to release the power of the mob on you?
;)
Hope you're feeling better.
What, did you think I was trying to release the power of the mob on you?
I figured it was cool Sabbat hitvampires and the shovelhead was just a party favor. :)
Hope you're feeling better.
It's a chronic thing, comes and goes. I'm ok.
I have thoughts so I'm bound to overwrite them. The short version: 3/2 (about tied), 4, 1
1) I've played very little of the game. Got up to the haunted hotel before my nerves were shot and I put it up. So my connection to it isn't really strong. I'd be right out of luck on playing one of the characters. Not a fan at all, sorry.
2) I study the nineteenth century, with Bleeding Kansas being where I've done the most detailed work. This is pitched particularly well to my tastes. :) I like that we would wake up with a kind of mission and a lot of vampy power maybe, but still have to navigate the present environment and work the mortal end from the ground up. The only real knock on it for me is that I'd have to work up an elder concept that's by definition less moored to his mortal life, where I usually like to do the other way around. (Paolo is still Simon. He just had a religious experience/indoctrination that realigned his values a bit.) Not a huge issue, though. One of my idle thoughts for an elder is someone who was embraced young-ish. Maybe mid-teens, so he would have been an adult by the standards of his time but presents as much younger now. He has the power and the general elder amorality to make it work for him or find it a bit funny. Dominate: "Bend down a touch. Thank you." *chomp*
3) This could be the best of both worlds to me. We get to play with cool powers, plus likely have a sire-prominent game. But we also get to have modern-ish mortal lives to ground concepts in. Everyone sharing the same sire could be interesting or limiting. Feels like we'd definitely want Thaumaturgy or Necromancy just to have more options. Wouldn't make a lot of world sense to have multiple 5th generation vamps kicking around in close proximity. But a lot would depend on what kind of options we have within the space. Love the idea, not sure of the logistics.
4) This just sounds fun. Not crackling with power, but I dig the idea. The Sabbat's got a bit of everything so concepts would be wide open. Anybody might decide to take a bit part in a movie for the hell of it. Then Bad Things happen. Maybe the dumb high school student skipping class or the college kid looking for extra money. Maybe the fast-talker who conned his way on the set and cast himself for the pure hell of it.
With Four out of five of you having responded to the last ideas thing, It looks like #2 aka Caido Sangre has the edge
I'll hammer out some more thoughts :)
With Four out of five of you having responded to the last ideas thing, It looks like #2 aka Caido Sangre has the edge
I'll hammer out some more thoughts :)
Cool, we going to use the Age rules from the Elders book? It has a baseline for the creation of Elders :-)
I'll probably dust off Master Beschi for this one as he never did quite reach his full potential ;-)
To be honest, I'm not sure. I was use V20 rules for disciplines etc as I have those handy.
But for starting base? Not sure.
I am thinking of having everyone just start at Generation 7 (no charge) to have everyone on similar footing blood wise. I'd like everyone to be built on the same amount of points or whatever.
Then there is the question of do you guys want to wake up to find your city is ruled by Sabbat, Camarilla, or Anarchs before you try to take it back. It could also be contested.
To be honest, I'm not sure. I was use V20 rules for disciplines etc as I have those handy.
But for starting base? Not sure.
I am thinking of having everyone just start at Generation 7 (no charge) to have everyone on similar footing blood wise. I'd like everyone to be built on the same amount of points or whatever.
Then there is the question of do you guys want to wake up to find your city is ruled by Sabbat, Camarilla, or Anarchs before you try to take it back. It could also be contested.
Elysium Rules I believe are:
10/7/5
20/15/10
25 Freebie
10 Disciplines
7 Virtues.
Flaws I think are still limuted to 7 points.
Elder Gen starts at 10 and you can buy as low as 5 .
Age provides 15 to 50 freebies, the more you start with though you lose on the back end as XP expenditures become increasingly cost prohibitive.
Ant stat 6 or above requires an accompanying Derangement (to prevent Uber monsters I suspect!)
Obviously starting everyone at 7th would be an advantage!
I'd say contested city. :-)
V20 has a simple system to simulate elders with xp. (Page 79.) Basically you create a starting PC, then level them up with a fixed sum. Elders are suggested to have 250-600 xp to buff up with.
Main negative I'd see to it is that it's a touch more mathy and you can't buy up backgrounds with xp. Granted most backgrounds don't make sense for elders who have been out of circulation for a century plus, but if the game starts with us already out of the can for a few weeks then it stands to reason some of us would have the means to commandeer some mortals:
"You there. Give me all of your clothing this instant. Also your money. You over there, your house is my house now. Remove your pets. And you, yes you! You look like you need a kiss..."
Ack. I would love to play in that Elder game -_-
But I just came back to 50 new posts in this game.
I can't cope properly. I'm trying to at least skim through the posts before posting myself, and there's so much I can't even finish reading in a single break.
Then end up not posting, only to find even more new posts when I return to finish reading. Madness! The good kind, but still Madness!
Then there is the question of do you guys want to wake up to find your city is ruled by Sabbat, Camarilla, or Anarchs before you try to take it back. It could also be contested.
Missed this question earlier. Sorry.
I think on the balance I'd enjoy the complexity of a contested city, even if it's a contested one where one sect or the other has a clear upper hand at present. Then we get to play wildcards. :)
@Paolo: But then, with 600 XP to spend, is there a non-minmaxing reason not to spend all your creation freebies on backgrounds? ;)
Pardon my tardiness folks. Some Real life and now some stomach trouble
No worries, been feeling like s*%$ myself lately ;-(
600 XP is a CRAZY amount of XP.
I might not have earned 600 XP with all PCs I've played combined!
Of course I've mostly been the ST in games I've bee in but still. Holy that's a LOT.
600 XP is a CRAZY amount of XP.
I might not have earned 600 XP with all PCs I've played combined!
Of course I've mostly been the ST in games I've bee in but still. Holy that's a LOT.
The low end seemed like a whole lot to me, even granted that you're spending it at the xp table's ever-increasing rates. Six hundred is bonkers and not something I'd lobby for. I just remembered seeing the thing and thought I'd point it out.
Just doing a back of the envelope to distract myself from reading about racism -I have the worst hobbies- looks like...
*does math*
600 is insane. Do not give us 600 xp. Those characters would be depraved. 250 is already a lot of walking around xp.
Agreed, we should do like 375, the midway point.
Or 1,000, if we're gonna go crazy, go crazy big I say ;-)
Like that time I diablerized Augustus Giovanni and played the game as a 3rd Gen Masquerader. Fun times!
So, 1000 XP and second generation? A race to diablerize Caine first, then God in the endgame?
*ducks*
Or is 425 mid way? I'm sick so...
So, 1000 XP and second generation? A race to diablerize Caine first, then God in the endgame?
*ducks*
So Exalted?
Or is 425 mid way? I'm sick so...
Looks like it's 425...which happens to be the number on the front of the building I live in. Literally where I live. This is an irrefutable argument for giving us that much xp.
Don't. Seriously, don't do that.
Or give us 2000xp and let us fight to be the first to diablerize God, Cappodocian-style.
See previous.
:Blinks: You guys have a lot of confidence in my abilities as an ST. At least that's how I'm going to choose to read it. Sheesh :)
Okay, Shadowteller ST is thinking of a Tremere it looks like. Is anyone else wanting to call dibs on a particular clan while we get the basics set up?
:Blinks: You guys have a lot of confidence in my abilities as an ST. At least that's how I'm going to choose to read it. Sheesh :)
Okay, Shadowteller ST is thinking of a Tremere it looks like. Is anyone else wanting to call dibs on a particular clan while we get the basics set up?
I certainly do!
Yep Tremere though I was wavering on Setite but getting a chance to play Beschi I can't pass up! :-)
:Blinks: You guys have a lot of confidence in my abilities as an ST. At least that's how I'm going to choose to read it. Sheesh :)
Okay, Shadowteller ST is thinking of a Tremere it looks like. Is anyone else wanting to call dibs on a particular clan while we get the basics set up?
You should absolutely read it as confidence; I'm having a blast here.
I've got an Assamite Sorcerer concept I think is workable. Idea would be that he left the old country as an honorable way to get clear of a dispute with a peer without final deaths. On arriving, he got into the whole stewardship of the mortals/regulating vampires angle. Maybe he first emigrated to Mexico (the revised clanbook says some of them went over there) but it was lousy with Sabbat so he moved up northwards. Probably around 300-500 years old, originally from the Ottoman Empire or Morocco.
:Blinks: You guys have a lot of confidence in my abilities as an ST. At least that's how I'm going to choose to read it. Sheesh :)
Okay, Shadowteller ST is thinking of a Tremere it looks like. Is anyone else wanting to call dibs on a particular clan while we get the basics set up?
You should absolutely read it as confidence; I'm having a blast here.
I've got an Assamite Sorcerer concept I think is workable. Idea would be that he left the old country as an honorable way to get clear of a dispute with a peer without final deaths. On arriving, he got into the whole stewardship of the mortals/regulating vampires angle. Maybe he first emigrated to Mexico (the revised clanbook says some of them went over there) but it was lousy with Sabbat so he moved up northwards. Probably around 300-500 years old, originally from the Ottoman Empire or Morocco.
+1, cool concept.
Don't forget, we have to make sure you guys have been allies even a coterie :)
Don't forget, we have to make sure you guys have been allies even a coterie :)
Should we start from the same city in the old world maybe?
Don't forget, we have to make sure you guys have been allies even a coterie :)
I figured we would have met either at town or on our way to it and established good working relationships. My concept's worldview is rooted in Assamite traditions, but I see him as fairly flexible. He's not going to go murder!death!kill! because he realizes not everyone turns darker as they age.
What counts as right stewardship of mortals for him can vary based on how everyone else is inclined. If we want to set up a Cam-style city then he's very cool with that. If it's a more anarchic thing, also works. If the sense of the group is that we want a Sabbat-esque death hole, then I'll harden his concept some and make that work. :) Nothing at all written in stone except that I don't want to personally double up on my clans in play. So not going to be a Tremere or Lasombra this time around.
Mechanically and points permitting, I think he'll take some of the more classic wizardy paths (fire, weather control, etc) but since he's an assamite and he's been away from assamite culture for centuries he'll also be a murder ninja. Possibly to the point where it eclipses his sorcery. I keep half-ass making combat monsters and then pulling back. Thinking more warrior scholar flavor.
Samnell - Assamite Sorcerer.
Shadow - Tremere.
So far interesting group.
Maybe Tzimisce and Setite Sorcerers to round the group out? ;-)
Okay. So, turns out the Prince wants to send YOU guys against Loa Joe and the trained pack
:) Enjoy
Samnell - Assamite Sorcerer.
Shadow - Tremere.So far interesting group.
We going to be rubbing each other wrong over that whole blood curse thing? Reading the clanbook, it only tagged the warrior bloodline and a few extras so my PC wouldn't necessarily have a personal grudge. Also it might just be broken in the present metaplot, so no longer an active beef. Of course we did get put in a can while it was one.
Very willing to reconsider if it's an issue. The clan's convenient for a lot of the stuff I'd like to do with a PC, but it's mainly the cool factor that got me there.
Samnell - Assamite Sorcerer.
Shadow - Tremere.So far interesting group.
We going to be rubbing each other wrong over that whole blood curse thing? Reading the clanbook, it only tagged the warrior bloodline and a few extras so my PC wouldn't necessarily have a personal grudge. Also it might just be broken in the present metaplot, so no longer an active beef. Of course we did get put in a can while it was one.
Very willing to reconsider if it's an issue. The clan's convenient for a lot of the stuff I'd like to do with a PC, but it's mainly the cool factor that got me there.
Well the curse would have been laid before Beschi's time so he's not directly responsible for it.
Beschi is also a team player, if a bit petty at times, so he'd be fine with working with you so long as you did not hold a grudge. His enmity is reserved for a certain member of Clan Ventrue ;-)
Awesome, EXACTLY how I wanted him to come across!
Hehe, I figured that. Thought it should come up too for some exposition, especially since Alyson clings to her humanity. She's as afraid of you as she is afraid of becoming LIKE you, so not everything was spoken out loud.
That said, I believe with her combat prowess you'll have plenty of opportunities to save her(or someone else, for that matter) and change how she sees you.
^_^
Just meant to express that in case I was misreading what you were going for, to explain her outburst.
Hehe, I figured that. Thought it should come up too for some exposition, especially since Alyson clings to her humanity. She's as afraid of you as she is afraid of becoming LIKE you, so not everything was spoken out loud.
That said, I believe with her combat prowess you'll have plenty of opportunities to save her(or someone else, for that matter) and change how she sees you.
^_^
Just meant to express that in case I was misreading what you were going for, to explain her outburst.
I suspected that some of Alyson's fear is driven by perhaps becoming LIKE Arthur and I considered posting that but I think Arthur lacks the Empathy score to recognize that and thus I left it out of his long winded (like always) post. :-)
Wow. Am I behind.
I thought to slow down a bit to give everyone chances to post.
I came in early morning saw it hadn't moved much.
Then got caught up in RL for the rest of the day and now am waaay behind.
Good RP to see though :)
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I have a ton of old character concepts I could... bring back to the dead. Hmmm. I have a salubri warrior who pretended to be brujah to hide himself in the camarilla who had the lightsaber and everything... blooded in the code and all named Dokiel(6), progeny of Aariel(5), grandsire Samiel(4)founder of the warrior line, great grand sire Saulot(3). That would be fun. Otherwise its a malkavian former prince who thought he was a time traveller from his many torpors but could only travel forwards in time lol
I have a ton of old character concepts I could... bring back to the dead. Hmmm. I have a salubri warrior who pretended to be brujah to hide himself in the camarilla who had the lightsaber and everything... blooded in the code and all named Dokiel(6), progeny of Aariel(5), grandsire Samiel(4)founder of the warrior line, great grand sire Saulot(3). That would be fun. Otherwise its a malkavian former prince who thought he was a time traveller from his many torpors but could only travel forwards in time lol
While 1 would be a better fit in a group that has essentially 2 wizards, I would like to se #2 in action.
Meanwhile I'm thinking "A Tremere, an Assamite, and a Salubri... oh yeah, best of buds"
;)
Malk might be a the better fit for cohesion but one never knows
Meanwhile I'm thinking "A Tremere, an Assamite, and a Salubri... oh yeah, best of buds"
;)
Malk might be a the better fit for cohesion but one never knows
hey wait, I thought Dokiel was Brujah...
Meanwhile I'm thinking "A Tremere, an Assamite, and a Salubri... oh yeah, best of buds"
;)
Malk might be a the better fit for cohesion but one never knows
I'm pretty committed to not being that guy when push comes to shove. I like my Assamite concept, but I'm very open to going a different way to avoid issues. Mechanically probably still a ninja/fighter type (because the cool) but lots of ways to get there.
Ah, we can make anything fit. I don't want to be that ST and ruin everyone's fun.
Ah, we can make anything fit. I don't want to be that ST and ruin everyone's fun.
Sure. But if it presents any difficulties at all, I can bend. :)
Pity I can't fit in another game with such a high pace - a Monstrous(flaw)-Huge-Sized(Merit) Setite or Child(flaw)/Small(flaw)-Tremere or Deathsight(flaw)/Flesh-of-the-Corpse-Cappadocian(flaw) would have fit right in with the crowd :P
Bleh.
I'm just mentally playing around with concepts after having resolved not to get in over my head. Don't even ask why, I think my brain is simply trolling me.
Playing nature and demeanor means doing things despite what is good or right sometimes to keep character.
Secondly fitting with a tremere and assamite sorcerer is what exactly?
The Tremere laid a blood curse on the Assamites to prevent them from committing diablerie on non-Assamites, which was a semi-religious obligation for them. Hence they have a beef.
In mitigation, that's a specific thing of Warrior caste Assamites, the curse is no longer active, and my concept has the PC absent from traditional Assamite culture for a long time. In theory the one job of the Sorcerer caste was to break the curse...but that's a done thing in present metaplot and hasn't been a priority for my PC since he left the Middle East.
Well done ST you found my play on vtm mythology!
The 'we can make it fit' stuff?