I agree with Ice on this one whip is actually one of those funny weapons:
The whip is treated as a melee weapon with 15-foot reach, though you don't threaten the area into which you can make an attack. In addition, unlike most other weapons with reach, you can use it against foes anywhere within your reach (including adjacent foes).
Using a whip provokes an attack of opportunity, just as if you had used a ranged weapon.
There is a lash talent that will allow it, but you don't have it.
There are a whole pile of cool whip feats. The problem is that by the time you have them, most enemies are bigger than you, so that you cannot trip them with the whip anyway.
Improved Whip, Serpent's Lash, and so forth.
That's obscure. :/ I never found where it says that.
I don't have /any/ lash talents yet, but that's the first one, and if not, then the second.
There are a whole pile of cool whip feats. The problem is that by the time you have them, most enemies are bigger than you, so that you cannot trip them with the whip anyway.
Improved Whip, Serpent's Lash, and so forth.
There's one at allows you to threaten the entire range, making anyone who leaves any square within a 15 foot range provoke an Aoo.
The lash talent also does this at high levels.
There are a whole pile of cool whip feats. The problem is that by the time you have them, most enemies are bigger than you, so that you cannot trip them with the whip anyway.
Improved Whip, Serpent's Lash, and so forth.
There's one at allows you to threaten the entire range, making anyone who leaves any square within a 15 foot range provoke an Aoo.
The lash talent also does this at high levels.
Yeh, but then you have to invest in Weapon Finesse and Combat Reflexes to make that effective (assuming you are not basing your attacks off of strength in which case why are you using a whip.) Then you still only do 1d3 damage. It is nice that it allows both disarm and trip, but unless you are a full BAB class, you are likely to fail your CMB check a lot resulting in dropping the whip (instead of falling down).
Don't get me wrong, I love the whip, I just think that it unfortunately is underwhelming in usage, especially with all the feats that are required to make it moderately useful.
See I've used str and a whip. It works well.
Weapon fenesse shouldn't really be used in a normal campain.
It's a feat tax for a sub-par option.
Weapon Finesse+Butterfly Sting makes for a vicious rogue-great axe combo though. Rogue gets the sneak damage and then transfers the crit to the BSF.
You could do the same with str, but with extra damage, and no feat tax.
Payet, are you going to take your Aoo?
Hay, payet, waiting on you.
Hello?
Indeed.
Who is next in initiative?
Waiting for Vincent. He should post soon. Then I'll attack for nex and Malwoa.
Sorry for the stall.
Also, the monk can take an Aoo.
Anyone?...
How many are playing at this point? I can post several times per day, but do not want to be leading this campaign.
Everyone but nex, and possibly Vincent are still playing.
in keeping a promise to magic I am toning down Lulu's annoying factor. but I am still here just not sure what to say... (without being annoying that is)
You can do as much as you like.
You two, Lulu and Vincent who apparently doesn't care all that much about this game, are the only ones we have.
So we have three players who I know are here and two GMPC's (who are supposed to remain less important.)
While Samuel is 'taking the lead'(how I keep us moving and on track) I want you all to drive the game.
I don't remember saying to stop playing her as she is.
I just kinda wanted a little less totally random stuff. :l
wait did you just say I don't care about this game? I will have to do better I like the game i just do't know what to say...
wait did Pix get healing? I better go check...
No, i think he meant Vincent.
No. Not you. Vincent.
He's really not on the boards much at all, but he's here just enough to not just drop out.
Hey, Ice, how much XP did the bandits yield?
265 each
yayyy xp...
updated lulu
Would anyone mind if we bump it up to fast xp? I think it'll keep things interesting faster.
Makes no difference to me. Really depends on how fast you want us to level.
Another option is to skip exp and just level us when you think it is a good time.
I was considering that.
Also considering the system of giving level features in a staggered rate instead of all at once, but it would get complicated real fast. :/
I like the idea of no xp, but I know I would just give you levels like candy and this would be over before spring. :/
I love wreck it Ralph! :D
We'll be using decided leveling.
I'll still keep track of xp as a gentle guide, but not just "this is when we level."
Anyone care to move us on or should I just move through camp night and into the town tomorrow?
You have camp now. Care to do something with it?
ANYONE AT ALL?
what are we doing?
Lulu is resting did we move or something?
I think we need some direction and or a cause or leader.
Lulu could take the lead but I doubt you will ever reach your detination.
You're in camp because Foul requested it.
Now we're in camp and it's been over a week and there's no post from anyone, including him.
Phone is almost dead. Will move us straight into town when I get home.
Anything else from the other half?
If it will get people posting, I will say that you level after the next encounter. Plenty of loot in that one too...
I'm always here. Just waiting on someone else to post. Ready to investigate the towns problems.
Would anyone be opposed to reopened recruitment?