Weapons question Mitrill

[Maxibond]

I understand that if I want to buy a mitrill weapon, I have to pay for it by weight.

+500 gp/lb

Now how do I calculate the weight of a weapon with a wooden handle could we say that a warhammer could be all mitrill but an ax or a spear?

And of course if only the metal part is of that material the weight changes would not be total either

for low levels each coin counts

the origin of my nightmares

""The barbarian of my party says i want a Mithril Horsechopper and and I will not pay for 12lbs of mitrill I do not need a mitrill handle""

damned

[Scott Wilhelm]

Most of the weight of pole arm would be in the head. The rules are pretty explicit regardless. A mithral horschopper would cost 6000gp. You probably just shouldn't get a mithral weapon.

Maxibond wrote:

warhammer could be all mitrill

Why on Golorian would anyone want to buy mithral hammer? The advantage of Mithral Weapons is that they count as Silver for bypassing Damage Reduction. So, if you want a weapon that bypasses Silver DR, get Silver! A silver weapon only costs 180gp extra, and it works just as well.

Quote:

On a successful attack with a silvered slashing or piercing weapon, the wielder takes a –1 penalty on the damage roll

A Warhammer is neither slashing nor piercing. There is no disadvantage to an Alchemal Silver Warhammer.

Why does your Barbarian want a Mithral Horsechopper? Why not a nice Adamantine Horsechopper that costs only 3000gp? Why not a Cold Iron one that costs 20gp? Do you know that you are going to run into more lycanthropes and fewer fey or constructs?

If you want a weapon that bypasses silver DR, just get a Silver Blunt weapon. Your Barbarian said Horsechopper. Maybe he'd be happy with a silver Earthbreaker or silver Lucerne Hammer. Maybe he'd be happy with a adamantine Horsechopper.

[ohako]

One reason to get a mithral weapon is if you're obsessive about tracking your encumbrance limits. In that case it's really only worth it for a weapon that's pretty light to begin with, like a rapier or short sword.

Another reason is if you're a silver balladeer, which is a bard archetype that gets +1 to hit with a mithral weapon.

A barbarian you say? Ehh, are there likely to be a lot of werewolf horses? Zombies with DR/silver and slashing?

[Scott Wilhelm]

ohako wrote:

One reason to get a mithral weapon is if you're obsessive about tracking your encumbrance limits. In that case it's really only worth it for a weapon that's pretty light to begin with, like a rapier or short sword.

Another reason is if you're a silver balladeer, which is a bard archetype that gets +1 to hit with a mithral weapon.

A barbarian you say? Ehh, are there likely to be a lot of werewolf horses? Zombies with DR/silver and slashing?

I am obsessive about tracking encumbrance in my characters, but might I recommend a Stretcher for 1gp that holds 500 pounds that you can Drag or a Handy Haversack for 2000gp that holds 120 pounds but weighs 5 pounds before trying to save 6 pounds on a mithral Horsechopper for 6000gp?! Perhaps a set of Muleback Cords?

[blahpers]

Calculate using the entire weapon's weight. Pathfinder doesn't get into that much detail.

As for why to use a mithral weapon at all: silver weapons inflict 1 less point of damage. It might not matter much, but it's something.

As for being "obsessive" about tracking encumbrance: Encumbrance is a core rule. It's intended to be tracked. Halving the weight of a heavy weapon can mean the difference between a 20 foot versus 30 foot move speed.

[Gisher]

CRB wrote:

Items not primarily of metal are not meaningfully affected by being partially made of mithral.

Either the horsechopper is mostly metal, in which case the weight of the wood should be negligible, or it isn't mostly metal and mithral is useless. There isn't an option for the barbarian to reduce his cost and still gain the benefits of mithral.

[Taja the Barbarian]

blahpers wrote:

...As for why to use a mithral weapon at all: silver weapons inflict 1 less point of damage. It might not matter much, but it's something.

For dealing with DR/Silver without using a bludgeoning weapon, Silversheen (the special material, not the magic item) is a really good option (remember the price includes the Masterwork quality, which is 300g by itself):

Silversheen
Source: Qadira, Gateway to the East pg. 25

Blades made of this special metal count as alchemical silver weapons and are immune to rust, including that of rust monsters, the rusting grasp spell, and so on. They are always masterwork weapons—most often scimitars or longswords; the listed price includes the cost of the masterwork bonus.

No aura (nonmagical property); CL —; Craft (alchemy) 5 ranks, Craft (weaponsmithing) 5 ranks; Price +750 gp

[Scott Wilhelm]

blahpers wrote:

As for why to use a mithral weapon at all: silver weapons inflict 1 less point of damage. It might not matter much, but it's something.

That's only a problem if it's a Piercing or Slashing Silver Weapon. Silver Bludgeoning Weapons don't have a -1.

blahpers wrote:

As for being "obsessive" about tracking encumbrance: Encumbrance is a core rule. It's intended to be tracked. Halving the weight of a heavy weapon can mean the difference between a 20 foot versus 30 foot move speed.

Well, maybe I'm not obsessive then!

[blahpers]

Scott Wilhelm wrote:

blahpers wrote:

As for why to use a mithral weapon at all: silver weapons inflict 1 less point of damage. It might not matter much, but it's something.

That's only a problem if it's a Piercing or Slashing Silver Weapon. Silver Bludgeoning Weapons don't have a -1.

blahpers wrote:

As for being "obsessive" about tracking encumbrance: Encumbrance is a core rule. It's intended to be tracked. Halving the weight of a heavy weapon can mean the difference between a 20 foot versus 30 foot move speed.

Well, maybe I'm not obsessive then!

Oh yeah! I forgot about the bludgeoning part. : )