Interaction of Shapeshifting Hunter and Creature Focus


Rules Questions


I recently noticed a possible interesting inferaction between Shapeshifting Hunter as well as Creature Focus.

Shapeshifting Hunter:
You blend your knowledge of foes and your shapeshifting abilities together.

Prerequisites: Favored enemy class feature, wild shape class feature.

Benefit: Your levels of druid stack with your ranger levels for determining when you select your next favored enemy. Also, your ranger levels stack with your druid levels in determining the number of times per day you can use your wild shape class feature, up to a maximum of eight times per day.

Creature Focus:
You have deadly experience with a certain type of creature, granting you an edge in fighting its kind.

Prerequisites: No levels in a class that grants the favored enemy class feature.

Benefit: Choose a creature type from the ranger favored enemies table (Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook 64) except for humanoid or monstrous humanoid. You gain a +2 bonus on Perception checks, Survival checks, and weapon damage rolls against creatures of the selected type. You can attempt Knowledge skill checks untrained when attempting to identify such creatures.

Special: This feat counts as the favored enemy class feature for the purpose of meeting feat prerequisites. If another ability references your favored enemy bonus for the creature type selected, you treat your favored enemy bonus as +2. If you later gain the favored enemy class feature, you can replace this feat with a different feat for which you qualify and whose prerequisites include the favored enemy class feature.

You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a different creature type.

If I have a level 10 Druid with the above 2 feats, does that mean my druid effectively have the full favored enemy class feature of a level 10 ranger?


No. Creature Focus only grants the +2 version of favored enemy--it doesn't continue to grow with additional levels, effective or otherwise.


blahpers wrote:
No. Creature Focus only grants the +2 version of favored enemy--it doesn't continue to grow with additional levels, effective or otherwise.

Ok, Creature Focus remains at +2. But what about Shapeshifting Hunter?

Do I not select an additional favored enemy at 5th & 10th level since I am effectively also a level 10 ranger due to my druid levels? I hope you can clear up my confusion.


You do not have favored enemy. You have a feat that counts as favored enemyto meet feat prerequisites.

So, you qualify for the feat. So, add your druid levels to determine when your favored enemy class feature advances.

When does your favored enemy class feature advance? Never, because you don't have that class feature, you just qualify for feats as though you did.

Get it?


toastedamphibian wrote:

You do not have favored enemy. You have a feat that counts as favored enemyto meet feat prerequisites.

So, you qualify for the feat. So, add your druid levels to determine when your favored enemy class feature advances.

When does your favored enemy class feature advance? Never, because you don't have that class feature, you just qualify for feats as though you did.

Get it?

Ahh... that explaination makes things so much clearer. Thanks

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