What happens to a hunter who stops being neutral?

[Wayne Bradbury]

The Hunter has no "ex-hunter" listing, or any other indication of losing any abilities when their alignment changes.

Does anything happen to them if they stop being neutral? Do they lose any class features?

[wraithstrike]

I FAQ'd this. Good Catch.
For my home games this is what I am going to use until something official is made.

my houserule wrote:

Ex-Hunters

A hunter who changes to a prohibited alignment loses all spells and hunter abilities (including her animal companion, but not including weapon, armor, and shield proficiencies). She cannot thereafter gain levels as a hunter until she atones (see the atonement spell description).

[Hubaris]

ACG Strikes Again!

This is actually a shame because a series of Ex-Classes came out in Antiheroes' Handbook (Ex-Cleric, Druid, Monk, Paladin) and none for the Hunter.

I would take a different stance than wraithstrike. The Hunter can no longer take Hunter levels (until they Atone) but doesn't lose features. The Hunter is just as much Druid (Code) as it is Ranger (Codeless) so losing everything (Spells, AnC, etc) seems too much and at most it should be halfway between the two. IMO of course.

Until then I guess it falls into houserules territory. FAQ'd regardless.

[wraithstrike]

Hubaris wrote:

ACG Strikes Again!

This is actually a shame because a series of Ex-Classes came out in Antiheroes' Handbook (Ex-Cleric, Druid, Monk, Paladin) and none for the Hunter.

I would take a different stance than wraithstrike. The Hunter can no longer take Hunter levels (until they Atone) but doesn't lose features. The Hunter is just as much Druid (Code) as it is Ranger (Codeless) so losing everything (Spells, AnC, etc) seems too much and at most it should be halfway between the two. IMO of course.

Until then I guess it falls into houserules territory. FAQ'd regardless.

I just copied and pasted the Druid rules and took out certain things that didn't apply, but I do think your idea has merit. Hopefully Paizo fixes this before I actually have to come up with something concrete.

[Senko]

Obviously their animal companion eats them.

[Zhayne]

Nothing should happen, because alignment is stupid. This goes for every class, IMNRHO (In My Not Remotely Humble Opinion).

[Ian Johnstone]

My ruling was that since Ex-druids lose their animal companion, and Hunter levels count as druid levels for options that modify animal companions, you lose your companion.

You don't, however, lose your spell casting or special abilities, or your ability to count as a ranger for prerequisites.

[TOZ]

What Zhayne said.

[Freehold DM]

What Senko said.

[Wayne Bradbury]

As far as I see it, RAW it wouldn't lose anything except for the ability to take new levels in Hunter. However, the lack of an "ex-hunter" section does feel like an oversight.

For a home game I'd just say house rule it in a way that makes sense, but my primary concern is that I'm seeing disagreement on people's reading of the RAW for this in PFS, and there house ruling isn't so much an option. Hence why I'd very much like an FAQ answer, or a staff post, or something.