A different kind of magus


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


My latest character is a magus. I approached the class in a slightly more unusual fashion because I love to do things my own way and I think the shocking grasp/nova damage approach is formulaic at this point. I took a flail (trip weapon) and built around the concept of tripping through maneuvers and toppling magic missile (thank you magical lineage).I'm also a hexcrafter so I debuff with evil eye.

I was going for flavor and style points but to my surprise this is incredibly effective. I can't crit Fish and my damage is totally mediocre but I completely neuter targets and set up flanks/AOOs with the rogue for opponents getting up from prone. In one or two enemy encounters we dominate.

Do other people use the class similarly? If so why does the shocking grasp crit fishing assassin Steriotype persist?


*shameful bump*


truestrike and trip is a common build for magus.
hexcrafter is seen as one of the better archetypes for a magus.
So yes, there are people who play similar builds.

Why the shocking grasp? well why trip a guy when you can kill a guy? If I have enough spells to nova every round of every fight every day, this happens pretty quickly, then why bother using a maneuver? If you score a crit that's basically a POP goes the enemy.


Oh :(


Until you mission is "bring him back alive" or "we need to interrogate them."


Snowlilly wrote:
Until you mission is "bring him back alive" or "we need to interrogate them."

There's Merciful Spell for that.


Zolanoteph wrote:

My latest character is a magus. I approached the class in a slightly more unusual fashion because I love to do things my own way and I think the shocking grasp/nova damage approach is formulaic at this point. I took a flail (trip weapon) and built around the concept of tripping through maneuvers and toppling magic missile (thank you magical lineage).I'm also a hexcrafter so I debuff with evil eye.

I was going for flavor and style points but to my surprise this is incredibly effective. I can't crit Fish and my damage is totally mediocre but I completely neuter targets and set up flanks/AOOs with the rogue for opponents getting up from prone. In one or two enemy encounters we dominate.

Do other people use the class similarly? If so why does the shocking grasp crit fishing assassin Steriotype persist?

I have a dual classed Wayang (magus 6 ninja 3) Vanishing trick, arcane pool keen, magical lineage, dissolutions child.

It's a crit fishing shocking grasp, sneak attacker. (1d4 +10 +5d5 +2d6 on normal attack.) It's really fun to see people react to my little skinny wayang unloading on some one.

The reason it persists is it's fun and effective.


Zolanoteph wrote:
Do other people use the class similarly? If so why does the shocking grasp crit fishing assassin Steriotype persist?

Looks like a fun build =) I like the SOOTHSAYER hex with Evil Eye. That way even if they make their save you can still take advantage of the hex on your next turn.

For tripping I recommend the WAND WIELDER arcana & a wand of true-strike.

I have a magus build that uses the BODYGUARD feat with GLOVES OF ARCANE STRIKING (and obviously I have ARCANE STRIKE).

Honestly there's so much you can do with this class that doesn't revolve around Shocking Grasp.

I think the most effective combo probably is Shocking Grasp, but the Magus is a powerful enough class that you can build for fun interesting moves in almost whatever way you want & still be a valuable member of almost any party.


master_marshmallow wrote:
Snowlilly wrote:
Until you mission is "bring him back alive" or "we need to interrogate them."
There's Merciful Spell for that.

I don't believe I've ever seen anybody play a magus with the merciful spell feat or the equivalent rod.


hex strike + evil eye.
one of your attacks will be unarmed (first one) and adding the evil eye (save mean nothing here, as it last min one round.
this open's up a very cool spellstike later on for a save or suck.

a magus can use a whip for a "out of reach" full attacks.

a magus can be a "Jedi" > mind blade- and create their weapon out of thin air- later on - 2 weapon attacking .

eldritch-archer with hexcrafter , can enchant it's own bow for a conductive weapon . adding evil eye freely EVERY round + full attack + 1 spell.....
that is a lot of arrows (even if a bit low to hit with rapid shot and spell combat adding -2 each).

if you reach high levels - than a kensai is amazing as a crit fisher.


think of the following ....

level 8 cutover:
conductive,cruel weapon : = evil eye > -4 to attacks.
spellstrike = rime frostbite with enforcer feat =
sicken another -2
shaken another -2
fatigue some more minues
entangles some more.

and this is using a level 2 (1 with trait) spell......

working VS all non construct or undead foes.


666bender wrote:

think of the following ....

level 8 cutover:
conductive,cruel weapon : = evil eye > -4 to attacks.
spellstrike = rime frostbite with enforcer feat =
sicken another -2
shaken another -2
fatigue some more minues
entangles some more.

and this is using a level 2 (1 with trait) spell......

working VS all non construct or undead foes.

The Enforcer feat requires a melee weapon.

Sovereign Court

666bender wrote:

think of the following ....

level 8 cutover:
conductive,cruel weapon : = evil eye > -4 to attacks.
spellstrike = rime frostbite with enforcer feat =
sicken another -2
shaken another -2
fatigue some more minues
entangles some more.

and this is using a level 2 (1 with trait) spell......

working VS all non construct or undead foes.

Conductive does not work with evil eye.

Conductive wrote:
A conductive weapon is able to channel the energy of a spell-like or supernatural ability that relies on a melee or ranged touch attack to hit its target...

Spell like(or SU) has no touch attack, no conductive.

Cruel weapon hat to hit a target already intimidated to sicken.

Frostbite fatigues period. Until the nonlethal damage is healed, not minutes.

Entangle from Rime is based on the nonmetamagiked version of the spell, so 1 round.

Cold immune or resistant enemies will ignore the later two.


Snowlilly wrote:
666bender wrote:

think of the following ....

level 8 cutover:
conductive,cruel weapon : = evil eye > -4 to attacks.
spellstrike = rime frostbite with enforcer feat =
sicken another -2
shaken another -2
fatigue some more minues
entangles some more.

and this is using a level 2 (1 with trait) spell......

working VS all non construct or undead foes.

The Enforcer feat requires a melee weapon.

this is for the whip \ other weapon magus .


Cold immune will get a shocking grasp. No one have 1 trick.
Hex strike will be better than conductive than

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