Thunderstones & bardic performance


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I can't find anything stating what effect, if any, a thunderstone has on bardic performance. Since the stone causes deafness (20% failure on spells with a somatic component), I would think it should impact the performance in some way.

Any thoughts? Thanks!


Deaf creatures are immune to audible bardic performances. So if you're inspiring courage to your allies and they all go deaf, you have a 20% chance to fail at giving the performance, but none of them can hear it so it wouldn't go through anyway.


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I use 'em as percussion when I perform the 1812 Overture.


JackalOfBane wrote:
Deaf creatures are immune to audible bardic performances. So if you're inspiring courage to your allies and they all go deaf, you have a 20% chance to fail at giving the performance, but none of them can hear it so it wouldn't go through anyway.

Exactly here is a quote

bardic performance wrote:
If a bardic performance has audible components, the targets must be able to hear the bard for the performance to have any effect, and many such performances are language dependent (as noted in the description). A deaf bard has a 20% chance to fail when attempting to use a bardic performance with an audible component. If he fails this check, the attempt still counts against his daily limit. Deaf creatures are immune to bardic performances with audible components.

As we can see here if anyone fails their save no musical boost for them, if you fail your save then you have a 20% failure chance however what I am not sure on is if its a 20% chance to not be able to maintain each round or is it just to start one?


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Talonhawke wrote:
however what I am not sure on is if its a 20% chance to not be able to maintain each round or is it just to start one?

I would rule both.

If you don't have one in progress, you have a 20% to fail starting one up.

If you have one in progress, you have a 20% chance of not being able to maintain it. If you fail to maintain, I would rule that means you have to start a new performance up.


JackalOfBane wrote:
Deaf creatures are immune to audible bardic performances. So if you're inspiring courage to your allies and they all go deaf, you have a 20% chance to fail at giving the performance, but none of them can hear it so it wouldn't go through anyway.

But you can use Perform (dance) to inspire them, visual component only. Unlike Bard spells, Bardic Performance does not require a verbal (auditory) component.

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