Bloodline Mutations


Rules Questions


so bloodline mutations seem pretty neat but I have some questions about them.
1) Whenever a bloodrager or a sorcerer gains a new bloodline power, she can swap her bloodline power for a bloodline mutation whose prerequisites she meets.

Blood Havoc
Whenever you cast a bloodrager or sorcerer spell that deals damage... This ability replaces the sorcerer’s 1st-level bloodline power or the bloodrager’s 4th-level bloodline power.

okay, so could a sorcerer swap their lv3 power for this one or does it have to be the 1st?

2) could an arcanist select a bloodline mutation with bloodline development? What about a Blood Arcanist?
2.a) and if so would blood havoc do anything for them?


What are bloodline mutations and what book are they in?


They are in Magic Tactics Toolbox


1) I think you can replace higher-level abilities as well, but I don't recall the exact wording. At the very least, you can trade in your bloodline feat.
2) Definitely not. It says what classes it works with, and Arcanist is not one of them.


The arcanist question is because it says, "The arcanist gains that bloodline's 1st-level bloodline power as though she were a 1st-level sorcerer."
So you're gaining it as a sorcerer,

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When I wrote bloodline mutations, I intended you to swap what I listed as a swappable power. If you don't want to swap that power, take it as a feat. :-)

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Chess Pwn wrote:

The arcanist question is because it says, "The arcanist gains that bloodline's 1st-level bloodline power as though she were a 1st-level sorcerer."

So you're gaining it as a sorcerer,

The ability says you need to be a sorcerer to take it. An arcanist is not a sorcerer, even i lf she gets something that's like a sorcerer's ability.

It lacks the language that, say, sub domains have that says other classes that get cleric domains can take them. I intended them to be bloodrager and sorcerer only because people always complain that the arcanist invalidates the sorcerer.

Of course, any statement that Paizo issues on the mechanic will trump my own.


Okay, good to know. That's what I was figuring. Really makes me question my next spellcaster build. He was all figured out and ready to be played and now I'm back to being unsure if I want to be a wizard or a sorcerer.


So am I right that this line, "a bloodrager or sorcerer cannot swap
a bloodline power that she has altered or replaced with an
archetype for a bloodline mutation."

Means that a crossblooded couldn't swap any of it's powers for a mutation, but still could select them with it's bloodline feats right?


Chess Pwn wrote:

So am I right that this line, "a bloodrager or sorcerer cannot swap

a bloodline power that she has altered or replaced with an
archetype for a bloodline mutation."

Means that a crossblooded couldn't swap any of it's powers for a mutation, but still could select them with it's bloodline feats right?

That's how I read it. And swapping for bloodline feats is probably the best bet anyways, since typically bloodline powers tend to be stronger than bloodline feats.

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