Hi,
I have a really odd question. I know that you can use the Enlarge Person spell on your eidolon. Now here is a situation with the question in mind.
If you get your eidolon to size large through normal evolutions and then cast an enlarge person spell to make it huge, followed by a permanency. What would happen when you got to the point of being able to buy the huge size evolution? Would it just not be effective or would it increase another size level?
I think it would be another size level. I could be wrong though.
Out of curiousity, how are you casting enlarge person on your eidolon?
Java Man wrote: Out of curiousity, how are you casting enlarge person on your eidolon? The Share Spells ability lets you do it.
Share Spells wrote: ...
A summoner may cast spells on his eidolon even if the spells normally do not affect creatures of the eidolon’s type (outsider).
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Huh, I have always thought that the previous sentence referencing personal range was linked to this one, but reading it now, I don't see whybI thought that.
Java Man wrote: Huh, I have always thought that the previous sentence referencing personal range was linked to this one, but reading it now, I don't see whybI thought that. Believe me, you aren't the first to have thought that. Not by a long shot.
ashuramarsh wrote: If you get your eidolon to size large through normal evolutions and then cast an enlarge person spell to make it huge, followed by a permanency. What would happen when you got to the point of being able to buy the huge size evolution? Would it just not be effective or would it increase another size level? You would no longer be able to give it that evolution, as you do not qualify.
From the Large (ex) evolution description wrote: The eidolon must be Medium to take this evolution. In order to give your eidolon the large evolution *or* the huge evolution, it has to be medium to start out (as per the text of the evolution).
So if you make it large by default in the mean time, you no longer qualify to take the evolution.
How it gets adjudicated from there, I'm sure would vary by GM.
Scrub the permanency, grow the eidolon to be a normally Huge creature (for the higher evolution cost), then re-apply the enlarge person spell, fixing with permanency if desired.
It's doable, but with a slight extra gold cost.
EvilMinion wrote: ashuramarsh wrote: If you get your eidolon to size large through normal evolutions and then cast an enlarge person spell to make it huge, followed by a permanency. What would happen when you got to the point of being able to buy the huge size evolution? Would it just not be effective or would it increase another size level? You would no longer be able to give it that evolution, as you do not qualify.
From the Large (ex) evolution description wrote: The eidolon must be Medium to take this evolution. In order to give your eidolon the large evolution *or* the huge evolution, it has to be medium to start out (as per the text of the evolution).
So if you make it large by default in the mean time, you no longer qualify to take the evolution.
How it gets adjudicated from there, I'm sure would vary by GM. Yeah I know. Planning to take Large evolution as soon as I can do it.
Snorter wrote: Scrub the permanency, grow the eidolon to be a normally Huge creature (for the higher evolution cost), then re-apply the enlarge person spell, fixing with permanency if desired.
It's doable, but with a slight extra gold cost.
I know I can do it this way. I was just curious as to what would happen doing it the other way. Because if it would negate buying the huge evolution, then I would just go the route you suggested. I plan on saving up gold for the permanency, either as a spell or scroll.
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You can do it, but it gives you more penalties than bonuses if your eidolon is already large or huge. Enlarge Person gives your eidolon +2 to Str, -2 to Dex, and no bonus to natural armor. The eidolon's AC and attack bonuses suffer greatly while your damage goes up slightly.
It's good if you are optimizing for vital strike. More dice = good.
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