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The Additional Resources update should be live soon, at which point playtest versions of the vigilante will no longer be legal for play. As with the Occult Adventures round of playtesting, playtest vigilante characters will receive a generous opportunity to retrain any levels in the class, take new archetypes, sell off gear, take favored class bonuses, retrain feats, and the like.
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The Additional Resources update should be live soon, at which point playtest versions of the vigilante will no longer be legal for play. As with the Occult Adventures round of playtesting, playtest vigilante characters will receive a generous opportunity to retrain any levels in the class, take new archetypes, sell off gear, take favored class bonuses, retrain feats, and the like.
Would selling off gear count prestige point vanity purchases? Such as a follower or property?
The Additional Resources update should be live soon, at which point playtest versions of the vigilante will no longer be legal for play. As with the Occult Adventures round of playtesting, playtest vigilante characters will receive a generous opportunity to retrain any levels in the class, take new archetypes, sell off gear, take favored class bonuses, retrain feats, and the like.Would selling off gear count prestige point vanity purchases? Such as a follower or property?
I would think it will not count those.
Venture-Lieutenant, Texas—Houston
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It seem odd that you would allocate GM credit to a Playtest character knowing that will it become illegal and have to redo it anyways.
I thought about it and went to go check on it.... turns out he doesn't have many (2). I think I was more inclined to find out if I can change the faction as a whole.
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It seem odd that you would allocate GM credit to a Playtest character knowing that will it become illegal and have to redo it anyways.
The playtest chronicle this time encouraged/supported GM's with vigilantes at the table to assign the GM chronicle to their playtest vigilante character and still get the boons.
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It seem odd that you would allocate GM credit to a Playtest character knowing that will it become illegal and have to redo it anyways.I thought about it and went to go check on it.... turns out he doesn't have many (2). I think I was more inclined to find out if I can change the faction as a whole.
If you only have 2xp, then you are still within the malleable period. Remember, that you can change just about everything until you play him when he is at level two or higher.
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Venture-Lieutenant, Texas—Houston
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If you only have 2xp, then you are still within the malleable period. Remember, that you can change just about everything until you play him when he is at level two or higher.It seem odd that you would allocate GM credit to a Playtest character knowing that will it become illegal and have to redo it anyways.I thought about it and went to go check on it.... turns out he doesn't have many (2). I think I was more inclined to find out if I can change the faction as a whole.
I was more inclined about the vigilante rebuild and if the rebuild encompasses the same rules as lvling before 2.
Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha
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It seem odd that you would allocate GM credit to a Playtest character knowing that will it become illegal and have to redo it anyways.The playtest chronicle this time encouraged/supported GM's with vigilantes at the table to assign the GM chronicle to their playtest vigilante character and still get the boons.
Oh ok. I didn't make a playtest character and didn't know about the boon.
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Oh ok. I didn't make a playtest character and didn't know about the boon.It seem odd that you would allocate GM credit to a Playtest character knowing that will it become illegal and have to redo it anyways.The playtest chronicle this time encouraged/supported GM's with vigilantes at the table to assign the GM chronicle to their playtest vigilante character and still get the boons.
Yea it was much better deal for GMs this time around to not have to miss out on the playtest as they volunteered to gamemaster. I hope all future playtests does the same thing.
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Yea it was much better deal for GMs this time around to not have to miss out on the playtest as they volunteered to gamemaster. I hope all future playtests does the same thing.Oh ok. I didn't make a playtest character and didn't know about the boon.It seem odd that you would allocate GM credit to a Playtest character knowing that will it become illegal and have to redo it anyways.The playtest chronicle this time encouraged/supported GM's with vigilantes at the table to assign the GM chronicle to their playtest vigilante character and still get the boons.
Yes I really enjoyed that as well.
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As folks have noticed we can update playtest vigilantes
All playtest versions of the vigilante from this book are no longer legal for play as of 3/30/16. Anyone playing the playtest version must have updated his or her character as of 3/30/16. Updating the character means retraining any vigilante levels, adjusting any class features, taking class-appropriate archetypes, and reassigning any skill ranks, feats, traits, or favored class bonuses. As part of the retraining process, such a PC may also sell back any equipment that does not use charges at its full market price (or the price she paid, whichever is lower).
The part I'm wondering about is "Anyone playing the playtest version must have updated his or her character as of 3/30/16."
If I don't play the vigilante until after the next time the Additional Resources page gets updated to include a new sourcebook, like say Armor Master's Handbook, would I be able to update the vigilante with new material from said book before I play it?
Or am I supposed to update the vigilante using only materials that were declared legal and available in Additional Resources by March 30th, 2016?
And Nefreet has mentioned that one can change race and stats on top of the listed changes in the AR. Anyone know if that's official or not or declared anywhere else?
I got a Strength-based unarmed vigilante build from the playtest I wanna update. But the existence of Lethal Grace talent makes switching the Dex-based finessed build combined with Fist of the Avenger really tempting, but I don't know if it's legal to change ability scores. Currently looks like a "No" but hoping anyone else has a quote or cite of a ruling somewhere.
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If I don't play the vigilante until after the next time the Additional Resources page gets updated to include a new sourcebook, like say Armor Master's Handbook, would I be able to update the vigilante with new material from said book before I play it?
Or am I supposed to update the vigilante using only materials that were declared legal and available in Additional Resources by March 30th, 2016?
You can use any material that's legal when you perform the rebuild. If you're willing to hold off a few weeks for the Additional Resources update for Armor Master's Handbook that would certainly be an option.
And Nefreet has mentioned that one can change race and stats on top of the listed changes in the AR. Anyone know if that's official or not or declared anywhere else?
I got a Strength-based unarmed vigilante build from the playtest I wanna update. But the existence of Lethal Grace talent makes switching the Dex-based finessed build combined with Fist of the Avenger really tempting, but I don't know if it's legal to change ability scores. Currently looks like a "No" but hoping anyone else has a quote or cite of a ruling somewhere.
I don't know whether this is something that I had considered and discarded for some reason or whether it's just never come up. That said, we agree that a degree of race "retraining" could be appropriate. I believe that will involve modifying the wording of the Additional Resources entry about the vigilante playtest to add, "If you have levels in no classes other than vigilante, you may also change the character's race (and any alternate racial traits) and ability scores when retraining your vigilante class levels."
Effectively, the nearly-comprehensive rebuild of a playtest character that only used the playtest class(es) should feel a lot like rebuilding a 1st-level PC. That is to say, "Thank you for helping playtest and improve the class. You should be able to play what you want now that the final product is available."
