GM Infernal Mistress |
Okay, so I was really drunk at a party a few hours ago and my mate pointed out this book called Mythic Monsters: Heavenly Host. Naturally, I came up with an idea!
Cave lector, beware reader! This is just an idea that I had while I was really drunk. As I sober up, I might decide it was all a bad idea and just scrap it. BUT, I may also choose to make this concept into an actual campaign! This is just to gauge peoples interest in the concept if I decide to do it.
The idea is Way of the Wicked as an 8th or 10th level campaign starting in book one. I read once in an early iteration of Mutants and Masterminds, not sure which one but one with a lot of d20/D&D3E analogues, that the reason supers start out at PL 10 is because the D&D equivalent in terms of power for a low-powered super is around 10th level. The PCs are not some second rate villains or rookies, they are malevolence given flesh, just under what most of us modern people would consider supervillain status, something they would quickly grow into. They will become the League of Villains from nearly the start of their career, people that their patron would honestly choose for reasons other than 'got to pick em at level one, because that is how an AP works, ya wanker'.
This would help players plan a background without the annoying power limitations of having a level one character. Seriously, think about it. Instead of playing a boring old pyromaniac wizard who can create small fizzles of flame from his hands and lit a farmer's barn on fire, you can be the sort of person who burnt an entire village to ashes with a series of fireballs in a fit of pique because of whatever reason. You weren't caught because you were some scrub who was bloody incompetent, you were caught simply because you are in a nation of heroes who stand against evil people like you.
The campaign would follow the basic plot but would be significantly harder and higher powered. For example, instead of a prison break from a dingy, half-empty slum of a prison staffed by nincompoops it would be a prison break from a place deserving of the reputation of an 'unbreakable prison', complete with well-armed guards, magic users, packs of trained blink hounds, and an abundance of magical sensors and traps... which you have to figure out how to get past while devoid of most gear!
There would probably be mythic by the end of book two and the campaign may go to 25/10 as a level cap but I haven't worked that out yet. As well, there would probably be a semi-gestalt system such as the one that I feature in my Hell's Rebels campaign, although I MIGHT go full gestalt. Not too sure on that because I may just make it a regular gestalt. Not even going into tristalt zone, because I'm not quite THAT crazy.
Yes, foes would be significantly more challenging. Talingarde is a nation of HEROES after all. They have succeeded in wiping out most remnants of evil in their rather spacious nation, so shouldn't the statblocks reflect as much? It fits the PBP format better anyway, because higher levels means shorter combat and shorter, more vicious combat allows the narrative to flow at a better rate.
cartmanbeck RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 |
Absolutely in. I would REALLY love to play in an evil campaign using a Magus archetype that I designed for Fat Goblin Games, the Battlefield Defiler. If you'd allow it as an option, I would be in for sure. :-D
Atlas2112 |
Oh HELLZ yes!!!!!!!!!!! =-D
I've always thought that an evil Mystic Theurge could shine, but having an evil campaign go to level 10 is...problematic. ^_^ They called me MAD they did! I'll show them! I'll SHOW THEM ALL!!
So, yeah, I hope you're still up for this when you sober up. ^_^
@Cartmanbeck: Ooo! I just read the leading blurb for the BD and it looks really interesting! So, you can just make your own flankers? That's fantastic! =)
cartmanbeck RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 |
Oh HELLZ yes!!!!!!!!!!! =-D
I've always thought that an evil Mystic Theurge could shine, but having an evil campaign go to level 10 is...problematic. ^_^ They called me MAD they did! I'll show them! I'll SHOW THEM ALL!!
So, yeah, I hope you're still up for this when you sober up. ^_^
@Cartmanbeck: Ooo! I just read the leading blurb for the BD and it looks really interesting! So, you can just make your own flankers? That's fantastic! =)
Yep, that's the idea! If you'd like I'm happy to PM you the text of the archetype so you can check it out. I need to get it posted up on d20pfsrd.com... perhaps I'll do that today, while the snow is hitting us hard here in the DC area. :)
GM Infernal Mistress |
I have awoken from my drunken slumber and am still interested in creating this campaign!
It will probably be three or four weeks before I post an recruitment unless I can get my mate to help me balance and playtest the first book for that high of a level. Until that time, you can ask me questions about my thoughts on how things will be rules-wise, discuss character concepts with me, and ask for things that you might want included in the campaign.
Leadership will be changed to benefit the organization instead of giving adventuring aids
Most templates will not be allowed unless they are things like a watered down vampire template or lycanthrope or similar template, Paizo-only races, no custom races
Feats with a BAB +1 requirement have that requirement removed
Gestalt will work differently but better at accomplishing what it is intended for
Antipaladins can be of any evil alignment
Barbarians and bards can be lawful
The evil prestige classes that have an ability like damned have that ability removed
Players don't need a feat in order to get improved familiar
Animal companions and familiars get an archetype for free (See the animal companion and familiar archetypes on d20pfsrd for details) and will receive a general power boost that is yet to be determined
Summoners will be altered a bit so that they are less of a command a legion class and more of a Final Fantasy-esque summoner of singular beings of great power
I will probably update the Book of Vile Darkness, Exemplars of Evil, Elder Evils, and Libris Mortis content to Pathfinder levels and give updates to content if you ask nicely! I know that I will be using some updated Book of Exalted Deeds material! ^_^
Cartmanbeck: I would definitely allow it! ^_^
cartmanbeck RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 |
Doomed Hero |
I am so g%$&!~n sold. Great idea for a game.
My concept is based on the Horned King from Celtic myth. A sort of Knight/Necromancer somewhat similar to Arthas from World of Warcraft, but with a more 'savage' feel.
As far as mechanics go, I'm thinking gestalt Antipaladin/Witch or Antipaladin/Oracle might be a good way to make the themes work.
Eagerly awaiting recruitment.
EmissaryOfTheNorth |
Okey, I was half way convinced to start but if the old evil books of 3.5 will get updated I'm totally game. Maaan, I've been dying to play a Disciple of Dispater (without 7-20 crit range shenanigans) for years.
And if DoD isn't allowed there's still plenty of stuff in those books to build a really nice super villain.
GM Infernal Mistress |
Doomed Hero: Nice! That's a, at least least in America, rather obscure figure, so Kudos! ^_^
EmissaryOfTheNorth: DoD is awesome! The initiation ritual I read, having the pentacle of Asmodeus carved into your chest and filled with molten iron that is allowed to harden, is pretty metal! Quite literally! :P
Sir Longears: The template is fairly weak, so yes, I would say so!
QuidEst: Kind of like the old Thief of Lives classic villain, right? "I take your fortune, now I take your existence."
There will be two slotted players using a character that is part sorceror, part some sort of time-manipulator and a necromancer of some sort respectively. There is going to be three or four slots open for the campaign, so there should be plenty of room for others to apply! ^_^
GM Infernal Mistress |
Interest still high on this?
Working on the niggling little details of the CC process right now, which may be subject to change after I run through it with a party or two.
I cannot remember if there is a free PG supplement for WotW or not. Is there? If not, I will probably get around to making one! ^_^
cartmanbeck RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 |
Helvetica Quinn |
Yep, still very very interested!
And as it turns out, there is indeed a Player's Guide!