Totaling damage...

[DinadanC]

Hello,

I'm trying to verify how my damage stacks up. It hadn't been an issue until I come across my first enemy that has DR.

Here's what I have.

Kraken Style: +2 bludgeoning damage
2 Lvls of Strangler(Brawler Arch): +2d6
strangler feat: +2d6
1 Lvl of Warpriest: Unarmed strike deals 1d6+4

So, if I have my opp grappled, and I choose to deal damage. Is everything added together, for 5d6+6, for a single total of damage, or is it 1 pack from the Style, 1 pack from Strangler lvls, and 1 pack from the Strangler feat?

Thanks,

[GreySector]

DinadanC wrote:

Hello,

I'm trying to verify how my damage stacks up. It hadn't been an issue until I come across my first enemy that has DR.

Here's what I have.

Kraken Style: +2 bludgeoning damage
2 Lvls of Strangler(Brawler Arch): +2d6
strangler feat: +2d6
1 Lvl of Warpriest: Unarmed strike deals 1d6+4

So, if I have my opp grappled, and I choose to deal damage. Is everything added together, for 5d6+6, for a single total of damage, or is it 1 pack from the Style, 1 pack from Strangler lvls, and 1 pack from the Strangler feat?

Thanks,

You add all physical damage together before applying DR. BTW what strangler feat do you have that gives +2d6 damage? The only one I can find is this one which doesn't do any extra damage.

EDIT: or rather, all of those damage bonuses are just modifying your base damage, so it is just one 'pack' of damage.

[Muser]

It's this feat. I'm not sure if a Strangler brawler qualifies for it though. They don't get sneak attack as a class feature!

[DinadanC]

Ok...thanks.

Here's the feat:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/strangler-combat

[Gary Bush]

Well, the unarmed strike is separate from the grapple action so those two actions would be impacted by separate DR checks.

[claudekennilol]

Muser wrote:

It's this feat. I'm not sure if a Strangler brawler qualifies for it though. They don't get sneak attack as a class feature!

It doesn't say sneak attack class feature, it just says "sneak attack 1d6", which a strangler brawler definitely has. Besides, it's a feature granted by his class. Even if it did say "class feature" he should still qualify. Also, this is the wrong forum.

[Muser]

Does the brawler have sneak attack? I thought they had strangle. Even if they do, I'm not sure that's supposed to stack with the feat. The strangler already does what the feat does, just without a cost.

I've got a Strangler myself. I have yet to take the feat because the stacking doesn't seem so clear cut to me.

edit: woah, that's one borked link...

[The Fox]

I believe it is actually TWO sets of damage.

Standard action: damage as part of maintaining a grapple.
This deals 1d6+4 (unarmed) +2 (Kraken Style) +2d6 (sneak attack, which can be applied because he is a Strangler archetype).
Swift action: deal sneak attack damage.
2d6 (Strangler feat).

The feat says to "deal your sneak attack damage." It does not say to "add your sneak attack damage to the damage dealt."

And if it did, you wouldn't be able to, because you already did so. (The "stacking" concern that Muser raised.)

A similar situation occurs when a cleric uses Quick Channel in the same round that the Channel Energy to harm. If a target has resistance to positive (or negative, as the case may be), the target gets to apply that resistance to each damage. They are separate.

Also flagged to move to Rules Questions.

[Validorn]

The Fox wrote:

I believe it is actually TWO sets of damage.

Standard action: damage as part of maintaining a grapple.
This deals 1d6+4 (unarmed) +2 (Kraken Style) +2d6 (sneak attack, which can be applied because he is a Strangler archetype).
Swift action: deal sneak attack damage.
2d6 (Strangler feat).

The feat says to "deal your sneak attack damage." It does not say to "add your sneak attack damage to the damage dealt."

And if it did, you wouldn't be able to, because you already did so. (The "stacking" concern that Muser raised.)

A similar situation occurs when a cleric uses Quick Channel in the same round that the Channel Energy to harm. If a target has resistance to positive (or negative, as the case may be), the target gets to apply that resistance to each damage. They are separate.

Also flagged to move to Rules Questions.

This is how I play my strangler who uses the strangler feat. Two separate sets of damage.