
Ravingdork |
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When combining the singularity form infusion wild talent with the pulling infusion or pushing infusion substance infusion wild talents, are the victims in the area moved in relation to the kineticist? Or to the origin point of the singularity?
For example, If I create a pulling singularity, are the people caught in it pulled towards me, or towards the center of the singularity? The rules support the former, but it seems that the latter (which I'm hoping for), makes more sense.
I love the idea of mini-black holes sucking people in, or a rip in the fabric of reality releasing enough cosmic energy to blow everyone away from it. Is this the way this combo was intended to work?

CampinCarl9127 |

Good question. I would ere towards the latter interpretation, although I do admit that RAW seems to favor the former.
Frankly I think the entire occult book needs an overhaul. Just the sheer number of questions it has raised is a tribute to the confusion it had added to the game. I don't even allow those classes into my games until they get seriously looked at again.

Texas Snyper |

After rereading the pushing infusion if pulling works the same way, and I see no reason why it shouldn't, I don't think it'll work with singularity. Bold for important part.
But that still doesn't address the alternate direction hits possible from snake and fragmentation.

Ravingdork |

Can you link the Singularity Form Infusion?
I cannot, as there is no online version of it that I know of. It is from Occult Origins.
After rereading the pushing infusion if pulling works the same way, and I see no reason why it shouldn't, I don't think it'll work with singularity. Bold for important part.
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But that still doesn't address the alternate direction hits possible from snake and fragmentation.
I don't know about that, I can clearly envision it pushing outwards from the center. That's a pretty clear direction (if the latter interpretation above is to be believed).

Texas Snyper |

Texas Snyper wrote:I don't know about that, I can clearly envision it pushing outwards from the center. That's a pretty clear direction (if the latter interpretation above is to be believed).After rereading the pushing infusion if pulling works the same way, and I see no reason why it shouldn't, I don't think it'll work with singularity. Bold for important part.
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But that still doesn't address the alternate direction hits possible from snake and fragmentation.
The common sense reading would make you think so but without definitive ruling on it, it can be interpreted differently.

Ravingdork |

Ravingdork wrote:The common sense reading would make you think so but without definitive ruling on it, it can be interpreted differently.Texas Snyper wrote:I don't know about that, I can clearly envision it pushing outwards from the center. That's a pretty clear direction (if the latter interpretation above is to be believed).After rereading the pushing infusion if pulling works the same way, and I see no reason why it shouldn't, I don't think it'll work with singularity. Bold for important part.
** spoiler omitted **
But that still doesn't address the alternate direction hits possible from snake and fragmentation.
Yep, hence the thread. :)

Ravingdork |

I would definitely rule that Singularity has a definite direction of Push/Pull, the epicenter of the AoE. The direction is essentially inwardly/outwardly in a direct line from the center of the AoE to each square that is affected.
This is what I'm hoping for. It would make the power combinations both thematically and mechanically amazing.

Chess Pwn |

Good question. I would ere towards the latter interpretation, although I do admit that RAW seems to favor the former.
Frankly I think the entire occult book needs an overhaul. Just the sheer number of questions it has raised is a tribute to the confusion it had added to the game. I don't even allow those classes into my games until they get seriously looked at again.
I think really the "sheer number of questions" are mainly for the Kineticist. We have nothing like to to know how it works. But It's been mostly cleared up and Mark is great at providing more clarifications as we have these questions. Other than that I'm not aware of much "problems" with any of the other classes.