DM_Blake |
Correct.
However, I'm hard-pressed to imagine a small-sized elven curve blade. It's not a generic weapon like a longsword or a dagger; it's an elven weapon. Every race makes longswords and daggers. Some of those races are small, so small longswords and daggers get made. Other races don't make elven curve blades; elves make elven curve blades for elves to use. All elves are medium, so all elven curve blades would be made for medium elves.
Now, maybe toy or even practice versions would be made for small-sized elven children, but these would be lighter and not sharp and probably of quite inferior quality since they're just childs' toys. Not suitable as weapons.
If I were DMing, I'd say you would need to make your own small elven curved blade, or pay someone to make it specifically. I would say the same thing about dwarven war axes and orcish double blades and gnome hook hammers (always small), etc.
But that's just me and my take on verisimilitude. And it's not RAW.
Jiggy RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 |
Correct.
However, I'm hard-pressed to imagine a small-sized elven curve blade. It's not a generic weapon like a longsword or a dagger; it's an elven weapon. Every race makes longswords and daggers. Some of those races are small, so small longswords and daggers get made. Other races don't make elven curve blades; elves make elven curve blades for elves to use. All elves are medium, so all elven curve blades would be made for medium elves.
Now, maybe toy or even practice versions would be made for small-sized elven children, but these would be lighter and not sharp and probably of quite inferior quality since they're just childs' toys. Not suitable as weapons.
If I were DMing, I'd say you would need to make your own small elven curved blade, or pay someone to make it specifically. I would say the same thing about dwarven war axes and orcish double blades and gnome hook hammers (always small), etc.
But that's just me and my take on verisimilitude. And it's not RAW.
Yeah, 'cause a master swordsmith who isn't an elf would never recognize the impressive design of such a blade and decide to market some himself. You know, sort of like how I can't find any non-Mexicans to make tacos for me.
I'm now imagining a master dwarven weaponsmith who forges small-sized ECBs engraved with an image of a middle finger on the blade.
DM_Blake |
Middle fingers or not, once non-elves start making non-elven curve blades, they just become curve blades. Like, you know, how we don't call them human longswords or human daggers now that everyone makes them. Either the "elven" part means something or it doesn't, and languages being what they are and lazy speakers being what they are, people would stop saying "elven" curve blades once they are "everyone" curve blades.
But that hasn't happened because the silly things are still called "elven" curve blades so apparently they're still elven which implies they're made by elves and/or for elves, hence medium.
As I said, it's way outside of the scope of any rules, but it rings my verisimilitude bell.
Paladin of Baha-who? |
Why couldn't there be a child-sized version of the blade for use by young elves, or made for a gnome ally of the elves? In Golarion, Kyonin has a sizable gnome population, particularly in the city of Omesta. So there's a reason why an elven smith might make a small-sized version of their classic blade.
That said, Swashbuckler with Slashing grace and a Katana or something would work better from a mechanical standpoint.
Jiggy RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 |
Middle fingers or not, once non-elves start making non-elven curve blades, they just become curve blades. Like, you know, how we don't call them human longswords or human daggers now that everyone makes them. Either the "elven" part means something or it doesn't, and languages being what they are and lazy speakers being what they are, people would stop saying "elven" curve blades once they are "everyone" curve blades.
But that hasn't happened because the silly things are still called "elven" curve blades so apparently they're still elven which implies they're made by elves and/or for elves, hence medium.
As I said, it's way outside of the scope of any rules, but it rings my verisimilitude bell.
The "elven" still differentiates what kind of curved blade it is, letting the listener know you're talking about that particular type of sword instead of just a general category of swords that have non-straight blades.
Sort of like how if I say "sausage", I might be including American breakfast sausage patties, summer sausage, and any number of other things; but if I say "Italian sausage" then you know I'm not including those other types, even though the sausage probably wasn't made by Italians.
This is clearly ringing some bell of yours, but it's not your verisimilitude bell.
RainyDayNinja RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16 |
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DM_Blake wrote:Middle fingers or not, once non-elves start making non-elven curve blades, they just become curve blades. Like, you know, how we don't call them human longswords or human daggers now that everyone makes them. Either the "elven" part means something or it doesn't, and languages being what they are and lazy speakers being what they are, people would stop saying "elven" curve blades once they are "everyone" curve blades.
But that hasn't happened because the silly things are still called "elven" curve blades so apparently they're still elven which implies they're made by elves and/or for elves, hence medium.
As I said, it's way outside of the scope of any rules, but it rings my verisimilitude bell.
The "elven" still differentiates what kind of curved blade it is, letting the listener know you're talking about that particular type of sword instead of just a general category of swords that have non-straight blades.
Sort of like how if I say "sausage", I might be including American breakfast sausage patties, summer sausage, and any number of other things; but if I say "Italian sausage" then you know I'm not including those other types, even though the sausage probably wasn't made by Italians.
This is clearly ringing some bell of yours, but it's not your verisimilitude bell.
mmm...elven curvebacon...
Coriat |
DM_Blake wrote:Middle fingers or not, once non-elves start making non-elven curve blades, they just become curve blades. Like, you know, how we don't call them human longswords or human daggers now that everyone makes them. Either the "elven" part means something or it doesn't, and languages being what they are and lazy speakers being what they are, people would stop saying "elven" curve blades once they are "everyone" curve blades.
But that hasn't happened because the silly things are still called "elven" curve blades so apparently they're still elven which implies they're made by elves and/or for elves, hence medium.
As I said, it's way outside of the scope of any rules, but it rings my verisimilitude bell.
The "elven" still differentiates what kind of curved blade it is, letting the listener know you're talking about that particular type of sword instead of just a general category of swords that have non-straight blades.
Sort of like how if I say "sausage", I might be including American breakfast sausage patties, summer sausage, and any number of other things; but if I say "Italian sausage" then you know I'm not including those other types, even though the sausage probably wasn't made by Italians.
This is clearly ringing some bell of yours, but it's not your verisimilitude bell.
For an example of what Jiggy is talking about that lies directly in the field of arms and armor, witness how the Hungarian shield, while common in Hungary, was also popular with large numbers of non-Hungarians and in widespread use in regions not part of Hungary.
(while continuing to be called the Hungarian shield)