Can the "Channel Force" feats force enemies to provoke AoO?


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I'm building an Aasimar Oracle, we're in the Mummy's Mask campaign and I would like to know if enemies provoke attacks of opportunity when I use channel force on them.

The starting feat states that I can channel force against a single enemy and if the enemy fails the save I can push/pull the enemy 5ft per 2d6 of my channeled energy.

Say this is the battlefield;

[_][_][_][_][_]
[_][_][_][F][_]
[_][_][E][_][_]
[_][_][_][_][_]
[_][_][O][_][_]

If I [O], the Oracle, use Channel Force on [E], the Enemy, and push it 5 feet forward;

[_][_][_][_][_]
[_][_][E][F][_]
[_][_][_][_][_]
[_][_][_][_][_]
[_][_][O][_][_]

would [F], the Fighter, get an AoO on [E] for being pushed through threatened squares?


No.

Threatened Squares:
"You threaten all squares into which you can make a melee attack, even when it is not your turn. Generally, that means everything in all squares adjacent to your space (including diagonally). An enemy that takes certain actions while in a threatened square provokes an attack of opportunity from you. If you're unarmed, you don't normally threaten any squares and thus can't make attacks of opportunity." (emphasis mine)

Enemies need to take actions to provoke opportunity attacks. Feats like Greater Trip and the like are special exceptions to this general rule.

Silver Crusade

No. That's why the Channel Force feats are 'meh'. You can use it, indirectly, to provoke AoOs, but only if your entire team is on board. Your team waits for foes to move in an provoke AoOs, then you selectively channel to force foes away, then they wait for foes to approach. If even one team member doesn't cooperate, though, this will fail.


Alright, thanks for the clarification, because it didn't say anything about AoO or lack there of. And the only thing I could think of that was close to this is Telekinesis and it doesn't provoke AoO.

Are there any abilities/spells that would force enemies to provoke AoO, considering I'm only lvl 6, almost 7.


Command or Murderous Command are first level spells that can make someone move, which would provoke.

There are also the feats Greater Bullrush, Greater Drag, Greater Reposition, and and Greater Trip.

Grand Lodge

In general, you only provoke for things you yourself do. An ability needs to say it makes someone provoke, rather than saying it doesn't.

In addition to what mplindustries has listed, there's also the possibility of Unnatural Lust, Reckless Infatuation, or Unadulterated Loathing causing AoOs through movement.


these are all things that are relatively unaffective against the undead without a threnodic rod of metamagic.

Would the channeled force effect a living character since it's positive energy?


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Are there any abilities/spells that would force enemies to provoke AoO, considering I'm only lvl 6, almost 7.

This isn't relevant to your character, but there's the 3rd-level witch spell Screech.


No, Channel Force only applies when you are dealing damage. If you had Alignment Channel, you could force the subtype of outsiders the same way you would undead.


So if I'm understanding this correctly, Channel Force is only effective against who/whatever is vulnerable to the energy type that is channeled?

Grand Lodge

Yes, as it specifically says that you can use it when you channel to deal damage.


I want to make sure I'm clear in this thought. Positive energy can, in no way, be channeled to harm living creatures of the material plane.

Sovereign Court

Correct. Channel Force is only usable when channeling to harm.

I found Channel Force to be quite effective with a Death Domain negative energy cleric.

Grand Lodge

You could use Channel Force to push a creature to a position, that would force them to move later, and thus provoke.

Also, cliffs.


Yes, but I'm in the Mummy's Mask Campaign, and haven't been near any cliffs as of yet. Besides, at 10 I get Telekinesis which will allow me to push, pull, trip, disarm, anything really, and murderize. Hopefully I can get a ring of it.

Grand Lodge

Channel Force could be used with Channel Smite, or Channel Ray.

Silver Crusade

In order to use Channel Force versus living things, rather than undead, you must channel negative energy. Note that Versatile Channel might be an option.


Versatile Channeling isn't an option because it requires that I be a neutrally aligned cleric. As an Oracle, I don't have that freedom.


BlingerBunny wrote:

Alright, thanks for the clarification, because it didn't say anything about AoO or lack there of. And the only thing I could think of that was close to this is Telekinesis and it doesn't provoke AoO.

Are there any abilities/spells that would force enemies to provoke AoO, considering I'm only lvl 6, almost 7.

Command. Get on the other side of the enemy and Command them to move away from you. A caster used it in my campaign to manage six AoOs on the barbarian, causing a pretty nasty PC dead. Still feel a little bit bad about that.

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