Help me make a Deific Obedience for Aroden, Dead God of man


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Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

So basically i'm playing in a game where my paladin worships Aroden. (and ACTUALLY gets spells from him!) I'm looking to multiclass into the PRC Sentinel from the Inner Sea Gods, but the book does not have an Aroden entry for Deific Obediences (obviously). So im looking for help to make one and present it to my DM!

Thanks in andvance-

Meeko

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

It's hard to make an obedience for a god that no longer exists. Who's there to acknowledge it and reward you as a result?


I'm thinking that he's not dead here.

It's perfectly reasonable to play before he died.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

.... Well its suggested by the fact that I'm getting spells from him that he actually is not dead.


Technically, a paladin doesn't get spells from anyone or anything, except her pure "goodness".

Grand Lodge

Judging by how Cheliax used to be the big center of Aroden worship, how racist Cheliax citizens are, and how Aroden's inheritor Iomedae seems to have no issue when her followers going all "Salem Witch Trials" on races other than humans, I don't think a Paladin of Aroden would be possible alignment-wise.


What? Why?


I mean, you can play in a setting where Aroden isn't actually dead. It was only about 100 years ago in the game setting that Aroden disappeared. In truth, people still worship Aroden occasionally. But it's actually Iomedae who provides spells to those worshippers of Aroden.

Of course, like I said you could play in a setting 200 years ago and have him still be alive. Or you could have a setting where he wasn't actually destroyed, but just inactive for the past 100 years.

But any way you do it you're going to have to completely make up material. As far as that goes...I don't have any helpful suggestions.

Ms. Pleiades wrote:
Judging by how Cheliax used to be the big center of Aroden worship, how racist Cheliax citizens are, and how Aroden's inheritor Iomedae seems to have no issue when her followers going all "Salem Witch Trials" on races other than humans, I don't think a Paladin of Aroden would be possible alignment-wise.

Yeah....no. That doesn't make sense. Iomedae is the ideal Paladin of Paladins. She is literally a paladin god. And she doesn't go "Salem Witch Trial" on races other than human. And just because Cheliax is ethnocentric doesn't mean anything at all. Aroden was Lawful Neutral. He was all about Human culture and innovation. He was definitely ethnocentric, and wasn't concerned about other races. But he wasn't necessarily supportive or harming or helping them. He was solidly neutral. If anyhting, his relation with Iomedae points that he was closer to good than evil. But Aroden could have had lawful evil clerics and paladins alike as his worshippers.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber
Someone said wrote:

I mean, you can play in a setting where Aroden isn't actually dead. It was only about 100 years ago in the game setting that Aroden disappeared. In truth, people still worship Aroden occasionally. But it's actually Iomedae who provides spells to those worshippers of Aroden.

Of course, like I said you could play in a setting 200 years ago and have him still be alive. Or you could have a setting where he wasn't actually destroyed, but just inactive for the past 100 years.

If I remember correctly we don't actually know how he died or that he IS actually dead or just dormant/ in hiding. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

In any case the original request still remains.


meeko wrote:
Someone said wrote:

I mean, you can play in a setting where Aroden isn't actually dead. It was only about 100 years ago in the game setting that Aroden disappeared. In truth, people still worship Aroden occasionally. But it's actually Iomedae who provides spells to those worshippers of Aroden.

Of course, like I said you could play in a setting 200 years ago and have him still be alive. Or you could have a setting where he wasn't actually destroyed, but just inactive for the past 100 years.

If I remember correctly we don't actually know how he died or that he IS actually dead or just dormant/ in hiding. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

In any case the original request still remains.

The death is an assumption, there is no evidence. Though deicide is so infrequent that were not sure what is a sure sign that a deity has died.

If I understand the lore correctly Iomedae received some of his domains and that is when she became a major deity instead of just Aroden's herald. But you are correct there is a lot of mystery surrounding Aroden's apparent demise. If he is in hiding not even Iomedae (his closest confidant) seems to be aware and he has stopped providing any assitance to his faithful (which is very out of character for a deity).

While it's possible he wasn't destroyed, he isn't currently interacting with the universe in any observable way and proof of deicide is nearly impossible without someone attempting to take claim as the murderer.


Hm. Hard to come up with something for Aroden as far as obediences go. His portfolio is a bit more "high concept" than most of the other gods and goddesses.

The easiest would be focusing on the Knowledge aspect, since he was a god of human history, and the "prefers to aid from afar" (i.e. buff) aspect.

Obedience: Study and commit to memory a page from a history book. Gain a +4 bonus on Kn. History and a Perform or Craft skill check of your choice.

Sentinel Benefits:

1: Aspect of the Nightingale 3/day, Eagle's Splendor 2/day, or Bestow Insight 1/day.

2: If you have the Aura of Courage ability, you gain Fearless Aura as a Bonus Feat, even if you do not meet the prerequisites. If you do not, gain a +4 bonus on saves vs Fear effects.

3: You may cast Greater Angelic Aspect 1/day as a spell-like ability with a caster level equal to your character level. Also, whenever you cast a beneficial spell on an ally you gain a number of temporary hit points equal to the level of the spell cast for its duration, and gain a +2 bonus on Knowledge checks.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
meeko wrote:
Someone said wrote:

I mean, you can play in a setting where Aroden isn't actually dead. It was only about 100 years ago in the game setting that Aroden disappeared. In truth, people still worship Aroden occasionally. But it's actually Iomedae who provides spells to those worshippers of Aroden.

Of course, like I said you could play in a setting 200 years ago and have him still be alive. Or you could have a setting where he wasn't actually destroyed, but just inactive for the past 100 years.

If I remember correctly we don't actually know how he died or that he IS actually dead or just dormant/ in hiding. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

In any case the original request still remains.

As I understand it the Clerics of Pharasma announced that Aroden had been judged. Presumably his special status gave him an express ticket to her judgement seat.

That means the Death Certificate is IN.

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