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For the purposes of the False Focus feat, what qualifies as a "divine focus?" Could I buy a 2,000 ruby and just say "this is a divine focus?" How about a Harrow Deck enchanted as a magic weapon?
Read the first sentence very carefully...
By using a divine focus as part of casting, you can cast any spell with a material component costing the value of that divine focus (maximum 100 gp) or less without needing that component.
A Divine Focus is generally something akin to a holy symbol. If a ruby can be considered a symbol of divinity to a deity, specifically one that you worship and get your powers from, then sure, it's a Divine Focus.
With that being said, the feat has a "gold value limit" of 100 gold, meaning if you get a Divine Focus/Holy Symbol valued at 101 gold or more, it won't do you any more favors.
If you don't know what would constitute as a Divine Focus, ask your GM.
Any object that a cleric or other divine caster can use as a focus to cast his or her spells. There's a cap of 100 gp, so I don't know what a 2000 (gp) ruby would do, unless a god accepts such as divine foci.
It's from a campaign setting book, so it's specific to Golarion and its deities (and the "no clerics without one"). Another question could be the issue of 'value', but I assume that's just price.
I'm also not sure if the false focus works as an actual focus, or if divine foci become catch-all material components which are consumed in the casting...
I really like the second version, where godless wizards burn through holy symbols to fuel their spells in lieu of a rare material component.
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So, no rules answers. "Ask your GM" is never a good response to a rules query, particularly with PFS in the equation.
I'm interested in figuring out whether there's rules defining "this item counts as a divine focus, and this other item does not." I know what a holy symbol is. I just wonder whether the rules declare that only holy symbols count as a divine focus (obviously not, since druids can use a sprig of holly), or whether there's some criteria an item needs to meet that qualifies them to be a divine focus.
I really like the second version, where godless wizards burn through holy symbols to fuel their spells in lieu of a rare material component.
While that's badass, the feat doesn't work that way.
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Divine Focus (DF): A divine focus component is an item of spiritual significance. The divine focus for a cleric or a paladin is a holy symbol appropriate to the character's faith. The divine focus for a druid or a ranger is a sprig of holly, or some other sacred plant.
"Ask your GM" is usually the best response to any rules query, as long as PFS is not in the equation. And it was not clear that you wanted a PFS legal answer to your question.
You can find the definition of Divine Focus here.
Divine Focus (DF)
A divine focus component is an item of spiritual significance. The divine focus for a cleric or a paladin is a holy symbol appropriate to the character's faith. The divine focus for a druid or a ranger is a sprig of holly, or some other sacred plant.
Holy Symbols are further defined here.
Information of a Sprig of Holly can be found here.
Everything beyond that is up to GM interpretation and that doesn't seem to be what you're looking for.
Edit: Ninja'd
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Divine Focus is a holy symbol as RAW.
What about for druids?
If you can find a printed Holy Symbol that costs as much as you need then you are solid.
Given the Adventurer's Armory ability to consecrate any weapon or shield as a holy symbol, this is pretty easy.
Keep in mind there is a limit of 100 gp so a 2000 gp one would waste 2900 gp of value.
Math! :P
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What about for druids?
Given the Adventurer's Armory ability to consecrate any weapon or shield as a holy symbol, this is pretty easy.
Druids use a 0 gp plant thing, so no help. The consecrated items are basically the paint and the cost of the consecration (150 gp iirc) and wouldn't include the value of the weapon/shield consecrated.
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The consecrated items are basically the paint and the cost of the consecration (150 gp iirc) and wouldn't include the value of the weapon/shield consecrated.If you can find a printed Holy Symbol that costs as much as you need then you are solid.Given the Adventurer's Armory ability to consecrate any weapon or shield as a holy symbol, this is pretty easy.
Which is fine, because if a consecrated weapon counts as a 150gp holy symbol, you've reached your value cap for False Focus anyway.
You'd need a valid consecrated weapon, though, and I don't think that a Harrow Deck (or anything else that can be used as an improvised weapon) counts.
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The consecrated items are basically the paint and the cost of the consecration (150 gp iirc) and wouldn't include the value of the weapon/shield consecrated.If you can find a printed Holy Symbol that costs as much as you need then you are solid.Given the Adventurer's Armory ability to consecrate any weapon or shield as a holy symbol, this is pretty easy.Which is fine, because if a consecrated weapon counts as a 150gp holy symbol, you've reached your value cap for False Focus anyway.
You'd need a valid consecrated weapon, though, and I don't think that a Harrow Deck (or anything else that can be used as an improvised weapon) counts.
Harrow decks can be enchanted as weapons. You can have a +1 flaming keen harrow deck if you want.
Harrow decks can be enchanted as weapons. You can have a +1 flaming keen harrow deck if you want.
Can you provide a source or a link please? I'm curious, and didn't fnd something like this in the PRD.
Even before that, the Deadly Dealer feat seemed to let you enchant a Harrow deck as a magic weapon.
"A spellcaster with this feat can enhance a deck of cards as though it were a ranged weapon with 54 pieces of ammunition."
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You can have a +1 flaming keen harrow deck if you want.
Yes 54 individual "arrow" er cards.
If there's a new sourcebook that lets you use and enchant a Harrow Deck as a weapon, then you can consecrate it and use it as a holy symbol for False Focus.
But again only the consecration price would go toward the "holy symbol" cost.
But again only the consecration price would go toward the "holy symbol" cost.
Which isn't particularly important since the Consecration cost already exceeds the False Focus limit.
Hey James, it looks like we finally agree on something!