Cleave or Witch Hunter for CAGM?


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So I'm currently debating whether or not to swap Extra Rage, giving me Witch Hunter, for Cleave. Character is 10th-level so still two levels to go for CAGM, and 11th-level feat is reserved for Dazing Assault and the 12th-level rage power is obviously CAGM.


If you have Pounce you wont need cleave any more i think. I will need to know more about your build and the campaign before i reccomend witch hunter above alot of other good stuff.


I haven't gone for beast totem. I realise pounce is nice but I went with things to ensure I was more resistant to magical effects like Clear Mind and Eater of Magic, as well as more anti-magic things like Spell Sunder and Strength Surge. I felt that three rage powers to get pounce wasn't that great a deal.


Definitely Witch Hunter.

Note: You can't get Dazing Assault at 11, it requires BAB +12. Annoying, I know. So CAGM at 12, DA as your level 13 feat.

On the plus side, it means you can dip Oracle 1 level for Lame Curse and rage cycling and still get CAGM right in time for Dazing Assault...

Your rage power selection sounds good, except for Clear Mind, Eater of Magic largely obsoletes it. Flesh Wound is also good if you're an Invulnerable Rager. And Ghost Rager is also very nice for shooting your touch AC up high.


Yeah, I'm just really paranoid about getting dominated :D I went a bit stupid with his dump stats. But with Heart of the Fields I guess I don't really need to worry about it too much. Twice a combat is pretty unlikely.


StreamOfTheSky wrote:
On the plus side, it means you can dip Oracle 1 level for Lame Curse and rage cycling and still get CAGM right in time for Dazing Assault...

Ok, I gotta admit, I don't get why Lame Curse is any good?


Immune to fatigue at oracle 5, or oracle 1 barb 8. Allowing you to end rage and restart it to use 1/rage abilities. Also will saves and wand use and a revelation at the cost of 1 bab.. also frees you up to get your skilled human racial back possibly..

Cleave would only be useful as a prereq for finishing cleave, so if you only have 1 feat free, definitely stick with witchhunter.. even with another feat, i think ghostrager would be better..


Witch hunter always.

Also, dazing assault has a requirement of Bab +11, so you can take it at 11th level. At 13 take raging brutality to add your con modifier, even while raging, to your damage.


Huh...I could've sworn it was +12. Guess not.

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