Does Form-Fixing Gauntlets work on polymorphed creatures?


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Lantern Lodge

Does the Form-Fixing Gauntlets work on polymorphed creatures?
For example, Those under a polymorph spell, elemental/plant/beast shape or the Druid's wild shape ability?

Form-Fixing Gauntlets:
Description
These leather gauntlets grant the wearer a +2 morale bonus on unarmed strikes, natural attacks, and combat maneuver checks versus creatures with the change shape special ability or similar abilities that allow it to change shape at will. While the wearer has such a creature grappled or pinned, it cannot use any shape-changing spells or abilities unless it succeeds at a concentration check; the DC of this check is 4 + the DC of casting the spell while grappled. If the wearer has such a creature pinned, a successful grapple check allows him to force the target into a specific shape it can take naturally (without the use of a spell). this involuntary transformation only forces the creature into a shape it is normally capable of and does not cost the creature an action.


Not unless any of those abilities are at will; for instance a level 20 druid would be affected, but a level 8 one would not.

Lantern Lodge

Glutton wrote:
Not unless any of those abilities are at will; for instance a level 20 druid would be affected, but a level 8 one would not.

@_@!?!?! That is just not logical... :P

So the only way to handle polymorph is the via the baleful polymorph spell?

Liberty's Edge

@ Secane. What? Not sure what you mean by your last post. Completly confused.

The gloves work against creatures with the shapchanger subtype. Like doppelgangers and lycanthrops. Or against any creature that can "Change Shape at-will." Polymorph is not at will. Shapchange spell... perhaps?

Lantern Lodge

Just find it weird that a higher level Druid would be affected, but not a lower level one.


I'm not certain that in this case "change shape at will" literally means an "at-will" ability, but rather "a creature that has the ability to shape shift under its own power" (the amount of times allowable per day not coming into play).

Of course, this speculation is based more on logic and the lack of a hyphen rather than RAW.

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