Arcane Mark + Spellstrike is totally cheezey.
No other class can get an extra attack all day long for only a -2 penalty to all attacks.
Monks not only get that, they eventually get more attacks, the penality dissapears, the damage scalates and their BAB increases to full while doing it.
Monks not only get that, they eventually get more attacks and the penality dissapears and the damage scalates.Cheese! Blasphemy! Gorgonzola!
Mozzarella! Cheddar! Parmesan! ...And now I'm getting hungry for pizza... Hmm, four cheese pizza...
Also, sorry for ninja editing while you were replying. Mea culpa.
Ah, so cheese = I don't like it?
No wait, I think we need to change it's meaning at least three more times.
Not only did I not say that, I also don't think that.
There is some cheeze I find particularly delicious, and other cheeze I particularly dislike.
Similarly there are some non-cheezes I find unpleasant.
That you so heavily seek to enforce a single definition on exactly what is Cheeze simply shows your lack of imagination as a chef. There are many flavours of Cheeze, and only the basest kitchen meddler would insist that the only allowable cheeze was Monterey Jack. My fromagerie is vast, yours is but a single sorry drawer.
With TWF, can you wield two pizzas at once?
I briefly considered delivering an Arcane Mark with a pizza, but I think the result would be too messy.
Better to deliver a pizza with an Arcane Mark! :D
yup, that should be valid.
Also going Hexcrafter to get access to the cantrip Bane which is a curse, and it's a damaging cantrip and can use spellstrike with that as part of spell-combat.
yup, that should be valid.
Also going Hexcrafter to get access to the cantrip Bane which is a curse, and it's a damaging cantrip and can use spellstrike with that as part of spell-combat.
You mean brand, don't you?
When I played my hexcrafter my GM and I talked it over and came to the following result to make it less cheese (which is kind of a HR): I can use brand to get the bonus attack as long as there is non of my brands on my opponent.
As brand has a save and a low DC that was more than good enough for me.
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So...
No rulings here, but I thought I would bring up a point that is the primary reason I have not gone in an altered this ability, even in light of the arcane mark issue.
Remember that you have to leave one hand open to pull this particular trick off, which in the end, means that this trick is really no better than Two-Weapon Fighting, you are just swapping your off-hand attack for a spell. Well, that was the original intent anyway. So the Arcane Mark bit just lets you take that extra off-hand attack, albeit with your on hand weapon. Handy, sure, but hardly overpowering.
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Also going Hexcrafter to get access to the cantrip Bane which is a curse, and it's a damaging cantrip and can use spellstrike with that as part of spell-combat.
What do you mean?
You mean brand, don't you?
Brand doesn't have the curse descriptor, so I don't see how it would work with the Hexcrafter abilities.
He can still get Brand (via arcana or traits or whatever) and use it with Spellstrike/Spell Combat (and it's awesome), but I don't see the connection with curses or hexes.
Remember that you have to leave one hand open to pull this particular trick off, which in the end, means that this trick is really no better than Two-Weapon Fighting
Worse, since it's usually done in combat, and the concentration check can fail causing you to lose the attack (while still taking the -2 penalty on your other attack(s)).
On d20pfsrd brand has the curse descriptor.
Brand had the curse descriptor added in ultimate magic in an appendix.
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I totally missed the Spells With New Descriptors changes. Thanks guys!
There is no one quality of cheese but several things generally have a smell to them. But usually it's when rule mechanics manipulation starts to override versimilitude.
Going all magical-Zorro on someone seems to fit just fine. Given that a majority of the magus is based on touching people with a weapon.
You have something here that makes the magus a better two weapon fighter than an actual two weapon fighter, in at least the sense that he's getting two weapon fighting with no feat expenditure and the second attack doesn't even have a penalty compared to the first.
When using this in combat and not starting out 5' away from a standard-reach opponent, you have to make a concentration check or take an AoO. If the concentration check fails, you lose the attack. A non-specialized magus will fail half the time. A specialized magus is spending traits, feats, or a penalty to attack to increase his chance.
The -2 penalty from Spell Combat applies to both his normal iterative attacks AND any attacks made from casting.