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Although pretty much all of what's been written about Malcanthet has been published by Paizo (with much of it written by me), she remains Wizards of the Coast's intellectual property. We can't touch her now.
Which is ironic, really.
Ok that is creepy but still doesn't beat Folca , good lord that's creepy and I don't even know where to begin with clerics to him. I really think todd had some of the best minor divinities to come out of the books of the damned, just wish he had had more space to cover them or had picked some of the more interesting ones from his list as the 3 we got more information on were kind of ehh save maybe pavnori the harbinger of nothing.
Fwiw, a good chunk of the harbingers in the appendix aren't my creations. A few of them are, including some that were written up in more detail but cut during various stages of editing by myself or Paizo, but Folca and a slew of those are by various Paizo guys. They did an awesome, disturbing job with that appendix as well. Just to clarify things there. :)
Fwiw, a good chunk of the harbingers in the appendix aren't my creations. A few of them are, including some that were written up in more detail but cut during various stages of editing by myself or Paizo, but Folca and a slew of those are by various Paizo guys. They did an awesome, disturbing job with that appendix as well. Just to clarify things there. :)
Ok that is creepy but still doesn't beat Folca , good lord that's creepy and I don't even know where to begin with clerics to him. I really think todd had some of the best minor divinities to come out of the books of the damned, just wish he had had more space to cover them or had picked some of the more interesting ones from his list as the 3 we got more information on were kind of ehh save maybe pavnori the harbinger of nothing.
You should change your nickname to 'Pontius Pilatus'. :D
Although pretty much all of what's been written about Malcanthet has been published by Paizo (with much of it written by me), she remains Wizards of the Coast's intellectual property. We can't touch her now.Which is ironic, really.
But that means they're still alive and not level-drained! Yay!
Honestly, Orcus's unyielding HATE always made me regard him with a bit of trepidation. I'm not sure how much the Pathfinder version of that Demon Prince maps to the old one, but it's somewhat telling that his M.O. is not 'undead ergo I hate everyone' it's 'i hate everyone ergo undead.' Millions of years old, possibly billions, but he still has not given up on his hatred of EVERYONE.
Areshkagal also has a somewhat creepy appearance, at least in my mind, but in general things that should have faces but don't I find to be creepy.
Lamashtu has always been fascinatingly creepy to me. My mother was a candystriper back in the late 40's and she saw (and told me a little about) some truly nightmarish childbirths she saw. Add in a few more stories from my father's mother (a midwife, among other things) and the idea of a demon goddess whose entire point is to give desperate and just plain unlucky women what is literally the most nightmarishly twisted child imaginable... brr.
Ugh, yeah, I've heard some nasty birth stories from the elders in my family as well.
Eric, apologies, but when I first read your post I originally thought you said your mother was a candy-stripper . ;) I quickly realized my mistake. Again, apologies. My great-grandmother did the same and it was tough work. Cheers.
On a related note, I always found Pazuzu to be interesting - historically he was invoked for the protection of children (against Lamashtu). One could see the raised arm gesture as being a precursor to the 'as above, so below' symbolism in Christianity (though in his case it's 'as below, so above' which I use as a motto of his cult in my games). Then you've got the 3rd edition story of his reverse-transubstantiation from an inhuman cthulhoid entity to something that, while horribly evil, is still born of and capable of being understood by human consciousness. He's like a demon Pinocchio; the only tanar'ri who was never a mortal, but who, due to his temptation and practice of 'helping' mortals who invoke him, is perhaps the closest in terms of understanding. In a sense, he's the least horrific of them to me, because he was the alien and unknowable made knowable.
No mention of Moloch? Children are murdered to appease him and forced into damnation through no fault of their own. I suspect being a conscript in Hell's army would make Harrenhal look like Aldis.
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For me the creepiest are still the HP Lovecraft inspired 'Old Ones'. I don't know if they qualify as 'Outsiders', per se, but the sheer otherness of their goals and portfolios make them much creepier than any explicit evil could ever be.Nope, not outsiders. They're pure Prime Material.
Still not correct. Some of them are outsiders. Not all of them. Until we see more about mythic adventures, though, how exactly the Great Old Ones get statted up remains to be seen but there are a few of them who are "interdimensional" enough to be outsiders.
"Pure prime material" is hyperbole.
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Oh my. I just made a connection…
Jervas Stoot was a worshipper of Pazuzu - even before his murder spree. His worship was more benign beforehand, just dealing with birds. When the runewell affected him, his worship changed as well.
If Pazuzu is known as a protector of children (even as a demon lord), then perhaps Stoot's prior, peaceful worship was keeping Lamashtu's influence away from Nualia.
This doesn't really change anything unless the PCs do research into Stoot and Pazuzu, but it is quite interesting…
Although pretty much all of what's been written about Malcanthet has been published by Paizo (with much of it written by me), she remains Wizards of the Coast's intellectual property. We can't touch her now.
In any event, it should be pretty obvious where she was keeping that iron flask.wink wink nudge nudge
James, I just want to thank you for the work youve done with Evil Outsiders. My group is currently running throu Divideds Ire and it definitely has a 1408 meets Hostel feel to it, especially after fleshing out all those empty cells.Also, Ben S., Malcanthet's write up was in Enemies of my Enemy, definitely Paizo-published.
Given there are supposedly many Prime Worlds and many more demon lords, it is just a simple fact that Golarion sees Nocticula as the Succubus Queen and have no knowledge of Malcanthet.
Ugh, yeah, I've heard some nasty birth stories from the elders in my family as well.
Eric, apologies, but when I first read your post I originally thought you said your mother was a candy-stripper . ;) I quickly realized my mistake. Again, apologies. My great-grandmother did the same and it was tough work. Cheers.
Nah, it's all fine,, but thanks anyway.
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For me the creepiest are still the HP Lovecraft inspired 'Old Ones'. I don't know if they qualify as 'Outsiders', per se, but the sheer otherness of their goals and portfolios make them much creepier than any explicit evil could ever be.Nope, not outsiders. They're pure Prime Material.Still not correct. Some of them are outsiders. Not all of them. Until we see more about mythic adventures, though, how exactly the Great Old Ones get statted up remains to be seen but there are a few of them who are "interdimensional" enough to be outsiders.
"Pure prime material" is hyperbole.
And that is the scary part. JUST WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY?!