I don't think it's intended that a bonus to AC, shield AC or natural armor should increase your touch AC.
I'm going to assume that the first one is supposed to be a bonus to armor AC. However this isn't that -- you get a separate bonus that isn't tied to the shield AC bonus at all (if you were using the shield as a weapon without the improved shield bash feat you would still get the profane/sacred bonus).
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It says "when worn, the shield gives Y bonus or B bonus".
It never says you can get Y bonus and B bonus at the same time. You can get Y bonus or B bonus, but you just can't get them at the same time.
"I can go to Paris to see the Eiffel Tower or I can go to New York to see the Statue of Liberty."
The logical OR means that when you are in New York, you will not see the Eiffel Tower and when you are in Paris, you will not see the Statue of Liberty.
"Does that mean if I find a way go to New York and Paris the Statue of Liberty is going to be invisible if I find a way to make it to both places? "
This is the logical AND statement form.
If you find a way to be in both places at the same time, then you are going to be a very rich person... grin
You're misinterpreting the logical connector "or" in your argument. A statement A^B means A or B or both A and B. This means that, if using the logical connector, both A and B can exist logically at the same time and have the statement be true. The opposite of A^B is -A&-B (not A AND not B), which is only true if both A and B are not the case.
Thus, when we read Vindicator's Shield...
Vindicator's Shield is the source of the AC bonus. Sacred and Profane are two different types of bonus to AC from this ability. To activate Vindicator's Shield, you spend a standard action "channeling to the shield" with your choice of energy (assuming Versatile Channel) to provide either Sacred or Profane...or both.
Yes, both. Looks totally legit to me.
This is just my 2 coppers but i could have sworn that i had read somewhere
that sacred bonuses and profane bonuses CANCEL, like casting daylight on an area affected by darkness
also in the recent Faiths of Purity, i believe it said that only Lawful Good and Neutral Good Deities had Paladins
It's true that "X or Y" does not necessarily mean "either X or Y, but not both". However, 'or' is often used exclusively. For example: "If you buy a platter you get a sandwich, a drink, and a soup or salad". You use context and common sense to determine whether the 'or' is exclusive or not. In this case, I think it's pretty obvious that it's meant to be exclusive. At best you could argue it's unclear and open to interpretation, but certainly not that both are explicitly possible.
This is just my 2 coppers but i could have sworn that i had read somewhere
that sacred bonuses and profane bonuses CANCEL, like casting daylight on an area affected by darkness
If so, indicate the aource please.
Sacred and profane bonuses stacking is a pet peeve of mine, and makind them not only not stack but cancel each other out has been a house rule with our group for ages... but, to all I know, it's nothing more than that, a house rule.also in the recent Faiths of Purity, i believe it said that only Lawful Good and Neutral Good Deities had Paladins
Negative on that, Houston. Abadar (LN) does have Paladins (see Faiths of Balance for their Code of Conduct)
The bonus types do stack, and they should in rare situations. Say you are a neutral character, fighting aberrations that threaten both a C/G and C/E deity. In this situation where the two deities are not particularly opposed to each other they could support the same person and not counter each other out.
As a GM I would say that the AC bonus to the character is dependent on the support of the deities involved, so that so-long as they are happy the bonuses don't go away.
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This is a very nuanced topic. I'd reason that it depended upon which deities were involved, how many were involved, the nature of the recipient of the bonus and the spellcasters, and the deities' attitudes toward one another. Morality is subjective for many deities, so the interaction between sacred and profane bonuses should also be subjective. Still, here are a few examples of how I think it would play out.
Stack: Worshipers of the same CN deity with opposed alignments; worshipers of the same LN deity with like alignments.
Overlap: Worshipers of the same CN or LN deity with differing yet unopposed alignments; worshipers of the same N deity with opposed alignments.
Cancel Out: Diametrically opposed nonneutral deities (Iomedae vs. Lamashtu); worshipers of N deities whose alignments are within one step of the other; diametrically opposed worshipers of the same LN deity who are forced to work together; worshipers of the same CN deity who share the same alignment; deities who are on bitter terms regardless of their alignments (Pharasma vs. Urgothoa).
