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Via the Discovery Family Twitter, Season 7 will start in April. Not too bad of a hiatus.


First look at new characters for the movie. One of them is clearly the big bad, and I suspect the rough-looking unicorn is one of his henchman. We also have a seapony princess.


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I can't wait to finally see a preview for the movie.


And another character revealed. The picture's kind of small, but she looks like a griffon. They need to release a better quality pic of that one.


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So that is who Zoe Saldana is playing. Well lets see we get a see pony, a griffon(or hippogriff) ship captain, a master of storms...so maybe this will be more of a pirate adventure or modern odyssey.


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First look at new characters for the movie. One of them is clearly the big bad, and I suspect the rough-looking unicorn is one of his henchman. We also have a seapony princess.

I know some people will be delighted to see the sea ponies getting their due. Shoo-be-doo and all that.

And is that an anthropomorphic cat I saw? Yikes but the storm that will raise.


One more character reveal. Another seapony, but a queen. Both of the seaponies' designs are gorgeous.

Yeah, a lot of people are fussing about Capper. I swear, some fans take this show far too seriously. We already had the Diamond Dogs, it's not like an anthro cat is that much of a stretch.


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TaliaKirana wrote:

One more character reveal. Another seapony, but a queen. Both of the seaponies' designs are gorgeous.

Yeah, a lot of people are fussing about Capper. I swear, some fans take this show far too seriously. We already had the Diamond Dogs, it's not like an anthro cat is that much of a stretch.

I had the same thought, you beat me to it.


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Well it is about time we have a cat version of the diamond dogs. This also means we could one day see the OS villain, Catrina.


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The movie designs look interesting. But I'm more curious about the recent info that the comics lines will be tying in directly to season 7.


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Does that mean backwards canonicity?


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I hope not, that just limits what the show can and can't do. Also I think they have already contradicted themselves by now if they are going to make the comics cannon to the show.

I wish they would show the whole character and not just part of them. Also what animation studio is doing the movie?


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The movie designs look interesting. But I'm more curious about the recent info that the comics lines will be tying in directly to season 7.

I think that's an overstatement. What we have is a tweet from a comic writer (warning: potential spoilers) stating that issues #51-53 will tie into season 7.

That sounds suspiciously like it's going to deal with some sort of spin-off/aftermath of some particular episode(s) - possibly the premiere - and that's all. Which is sort of what the comics do; they take what's come before and build off of it, or make up original arcs. There's no real instance of what they introduce being taken into account in the show (notwithstanding the tabletop game Ogres & Oubliettes), hence the many times the show has made the comics non-canon, and I don't expect that to change.


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Also, I hate to be that guy, but can we put stuff about the movie in spoiler tags? It's eight months away, and some of us want to go into the movie without already knowing most of what's going to happen.


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On a separate note, I'm going to indulge in some wild speculation about the future of MLP:FiM:

I think that there's a chance that season eight will be the last season.

Why? Well, hear me out...

The fact that season 3 had only thirteen episodes is anomalous when compared to every other season of the show. Why have half as many episodes as every other season before or since? So I did some digging and here's what I came up with.

There's a persistent rumor that season 3 was only thirteen episodes because their budget was halved by needing to produce Equestria Girls, but I can't find any confirmation of this. Rather, the general consensus seems to be that season 3 was always going to be thirteen episodes because the initial outline for the show was originally set to be for sixty-five episodes altogether (and then a movie).

In fact, this makes sense, because it's exactly what we saw for another show with the same corporate owner (Hasbro) that came out at the same time (premiering in 2010), that being Transformers: Prime - sixty-five episodes, consisting of two twenty-six episode seasons, followed by a thirteen-episode season, and then a movie.

So why the focus on sixty-five episodes?

As it turns out, that's not an unusual number for cartoons. Sixty-five is what you get when you multiply five by thirteen, which means that you can show one episode per day, five days a week (i.e. Monday through Friday) for exactly thirteen weeks, covering exactly three months, which is one season of programming.

In other words, sixty-five episodes is the "magic number" for syndication. Once a show has been made, and finished its initial airing, at that point they can syndicate it to other networks and just keep collecting money from those licensing deals.

Luckily, MLP:FiM proved to be such a huge success that Hasbro wanted more. But I suspect that they're still keeping to the sixty-five episode format. Consider how we were told, back in in February of 2014 that Hasbro was planning on keeping MLP:FiM going for another five years. Now, February of 2014 was in the middle of season 4, so I suspect that they were including that in their outline. So that would cover seasons 4-8.

That makes sense, considering that every season so far has been twenty-six episodes. Five seasons of twenty-six episodes each is one hundred thirty episodes altogether, or two sixty-five episode blocks. So they're making sure to stick to that format for how they order new seasons.

All of this means that, if the show is going to end, season 8 would be the place to do it. Otherwise, they'd re-up for at least another three seasons (which would be two of twenty-six episodes and one of thirteen, dead minimum). Hopefully, they'll want to keep it going, but it's anyone's guess. Major corporations like Hasbro don't judge a given property by whether or not it's profitable, after all; they judge it by whether or not it's profitable enough - if they're not meeting target numbers for return on their investment, they axe a project even if it's still making more money than it's spending...I know, because James Lowder described this as being why Hasbro told Wizards of the Coast to stop publishing novels when he was speaking at the Candlekeep meeting at Gen Con 2016.

Luckily, there are some signs that (at least as I read them) indicate that MLP:FiM is still doing very well. That is, there are a number of additional productions which don't fit the sixty-five episode (and movie) pattern. Mostly these consist of the additional Equestria Girls films. We know this wasn't meant to be a franchise unto itself, because the staff let that slip in the second movie's commentary. So the fact that it seems to be becoming one - three additional movies, three forthcoming TV-length episodes, and numerous web shorts so far - is hopeful.

And, of course, the upcoming theatrical film. That's not something you do for a series that you don't think is still profitable. It helps that the movie will drop in October of this year, right around when season 7 is winding down, so maybe that will help to galvanize the cash-flow right around when Hasbro would be getting ready to decide if they should renew the show or not.

Either way, I'm going to be biting my lip waiting to hear if, when season 8 is done, there's an announcement about season 9...


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I do recall commentary tracks or writers interviews where they do discuss season 3. The finale was meant to be a 2 parter. The sad song where Twilight can't think of how to save her friends, was meant to end the first part.

But then the funding for the second half the season never came, and they had to rush that episode, and squeeze it into 22 minutes because Twilight had to be a princess before the movie.

The big issue with cancellation is accessibility. The original target demo is in High School, and many are no longer watching. But with so much backstory and in jokes, etc. It is difficult for a new audience to come in and follow what's going on - so girls in the target demo aren't coming in.

Generally, a show solves this by cancelling after 3-5 years. But the huge popularity of FiM has kept it going. Because adults of both genders are watching, and buying the toys.

But there will still come a time where they must end things and begin a new generation of MLP.

This brings my mind to 1985 and Hasbro's Transformers G1. The '84 line needed to be swept away, to make room for the third wave. And they made a movie to do that.
Characters, who never had any serious damage in two seasons, were brutally dying right and left. And when it was done, virtually all the season 1 characters were gone, and season 3 had a new cast - the new toys.

The backlash of Optimus Prime's death made families leave the theater, and hurt the show and toyline. So much so that GI Joe's (godawful) movie made a quite edit and looped in a line of dialogue to reveal Duke had survived.

And yet in the back of my mind, I'm fearing that Hasbro history will repeat itself this fall.

But, without killing the Mane 6, there is some merit to the idea.
Those characters have all achieved their dreams. Rainbow Dash is a Wonderbolt. Rarity is famous and successful. Sweet Apple Acres is thriving (if the show dealt with politics and economics, I'm sure it would be revealed they make extensive sales to the Crystal Empire). Twilight is a Princess. And Pinkie and Fluttershy never had goals, because they already were doing what they love.

So why not move on? Those character remain, but slip to the background. With Twilight assuming the role Celestia had originally. And instead, the Cutie Mark Crusaders (now just out of school), Spike, and 2-3 new characters (perhaps Gabby Griffin?) become the series leads.
Stories now focus on their slices of life and adventures. The new character might even include a male (if Spike doesn't count as one of the Neo-Mane 6) as well as more than just Earth Pony/Unicorn/Pegasus. Diversity.
This change represents a soft reboot, and could revitalize the show for several more seasons.

It could be argued that King Thorax, Stalin Glimmer, Trixie, and Discord were a sort of backdoor pilot for this sort of idea. Though I'd rather the Alt Mane 6 over that group. Which will never happen since one (possibly two) of those characters be never be referred to by name.
The credits and the lawyers think she's called "Muffins", but the writers in commentary/interviews always use her real name.
[I'd love more episodes with Doctor Whooves (Time Turner), Lyra Heartstrings, Bon Bon/Sweetie Drops, Octavia, Vinyl/DJ P0n-3, and Derpy(!).)


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I love the main six(well seven because I actually count spike) and never get tired of them. I hate Starlight with a passion and hope she never replaces any of the main characters. I would prefer that Sunset Shimmer actually returns to Equestria and becomes a main character. But unless her human world counterpart is dead, she really shouldn't be staying in the human world to begin with.


And I think this is the character for the last of the guest voices for the movie. The fact tbey've started dropping these images says we're not far off from a teaser. Maybe they'll release it during the toy fair later this month? Because I imagine they'll be showing off toys for the movie.


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The toy fair sounds like a possible time for the teaser to be released.


Movie toys revealed.
Castle playset based on the movie.
More toys, including a very cool Storm King statue. Also gives a better idea of what Captain Celeano looks like, revealing she's not a griffon. Not sure what she is anymore.

An upcoming Shout Factory DVD may have revealed the titles for two Season 7 episodes.

Since someone will complain if I dare mention them outside of a spoiler box:
"Celestial Advice"- Could we finally be getting an episode where Celestia gets to play a bigger part? (Show does love its punny titles) Considering the theme of the DVD, Starlight or Twilight is likely to be the main character.
"All Bottled Up" - I know the obvious would be someone's bottling up their feelings, but with this show it's as likely to be about a potions mishap.


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At least we get to see the characters' full designs.


Seven songs for the MLP movie.

And a confirmation there will be new episodes in 2018, which likely means an 8th season. I kind of suspected they might keep the show going after the movie, unless we got some indication the movie was intended to be a grand finale.


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Interesting, looks like a movie preview was shown so maybe it will be loaded to youtube by the end of the day.

I am not surprised that we will be getting a season 8.


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New information on the Tails of Equestria MLP:FiM RPG! The official release date for the book has been announced! Tails of Equestria will come out on March 14th, so mark your calendars! :D

There's now an order page for the book on the River Horse website, but it doesn't ship to the United States or Canada, only being for orders by customers who don't live in those territories. For those who do live in the US or Canada, there's a page on the Ninja Division website. That page lists several ToE products, including preview pictures and their pricing, but doesn't seem to have an order form that I saw.

Also, Tabletop Weekly has posted their in-depth review of ToE over on their Youtube channel. While we already knew a lot of what's discussed, there are several points that we're told (or are shown when the camera pans over some of the book's pages) that are new, including:

  • Of your three "ability scores," - Body, Mind, and Charm - each has an associated die, but while you can pick the die size for Body and Mind, Charm is set.
  • You pick a talent at character creation, which gives it its own die, and when you level up you can either gain new talents or increase the die size of existing talents.
  • The game does not use numerical modifiers to die rolls; everything modifies what size die is rolled, or rolling multiple dice, but there's no adding or subtracting values from die results.
  • You also pick an Element of Harmony for your character, but that's purely as a role-playing aid.
  • Characters can take quirks, which are personality flaws. These don't have any inherent mechanical effect, but if played in such a way as to be a hindrance during an important part of play, someone in the group - not necessarily the person who played their quirk - gets a Token of Friendship. (Ideally, the group will give it to that person, but it's not set.)
  • Everyone initially gains a number of Tokens of Friendship equal to the number of players, including themselves and the GM. However, you also gain this number each time you gain a level, and keep any that you previously had. You also gain new Friendship Tokens proportionally if a new player joins the group (e.g. everyone gains one more Token, and that person gains a number equal to everyone else, including them). The book also mentions that if someone forgets part of their character's abilities in a way that majorly hindered them, then give them a Friendship Token as compensation.
  • As outlined previously, Friendship Tokens can be paid to re-roll a failed test (for one), re-roll a failed test with a d20 (for two), or automatically succeed (for three), and be used for other narrative purposes (the GM determines the cost). However, these costs can also be paid collectively - that is, players can donate their Friendship Tokens to someone else's attempt. If the GM decides that's a generous enough display of friendship, they might even lower to cost for the effect (e.g. if someone wants to pay three Tokens to automatically succeed at a test, and someone else donates one, then the GM might say that a total of two Tokens is sufficient to do so).
  • Die values for the Body stat are described in the book as small animals or young ponies have a d4 or d6, grown-up ponies and larger animals are described as having a "d8, d10 or even more in the case of very strong or athletic ponies like Big Macintosh or Rainbow Dash." It then notes that some creatures have an even higher value, such as a minotaur having a d20, or a dragon having an even higher die!
  • "Tests" are where you try to roll equal to or higher than a static number, whereas "challenges" are opposed rolls. Tests have a target number ranging from 2 to 20. A natural 1 on a die roll is always a failure, typically in a way that makes for extremely bad luck, often in a humorous way. By contrast, getting a die result of double or more than the target number lets you (and the GM) describe your success as an "awesome success," where you succeed in a particularly spectacular manner. The full breakdown of target numbers is:
    2 - very easy
    3 - easy
    4 - quite easy
    5 - quite hard
    6 - hard
    7 - very hard
    8 - extremely hard
    9 - unbelievably hard
    10 - indescribably hard
    11 - almost impossible
    12 - you gotta be kidding!
    13-20 - has anyone ever done this?
  • When rolling a test or challenge, you roll the basic stat die associated with the test (i.e. the die associated with your Body, Mind, or Charm), but also roll a die for an associated talent that's relevant to the test or challenge. When you roll both dice, you do not add the results together; instead, you use the highest value.
  • "Scuffles" (i.e. combat) are essentially challenges with the Body stat. Whoever rolls higher deals that much damage to their opponents Stamina (i.e. hit points). As noted before, losing all of your Stamina means you're knocked unconscious, captured, etc. There are no mechanics for being killed. The book also has rules about combat where several characters gang up on one opponent.
  • If multiple characters are cooperating on a roll, they can use a single character's highest die roll to determine success. Moreover, the GM might lower the target number as a result of their cooperation!
  • If a particular task if essentially impossible, you can use the "Exploding Hoof Technique." This is where you roll your relevant die, and if you get the highest value can roll the next-higher die. This can happen in succession if you keep rolling maximum values. However, you don't add these together; you simply take the highest value rolled when you've rolled the highest die you can.
  • Everypony starts with 400 bits (the game's unit of currency). You're presumed to gain 200 bits +/- a d20 roll (whether that's a plus or a minus is determined by the GM) per month. The game has an equipment list, which includes the following (costs are in parenthesis): barding (light) (100), barding (metal) (200), book (common) (10), book (rare) (50), bucket (5), cart (100), clock (10), clothes (elegant) (100), and clothes (simple) (20).
  • The book seems to be up-to-date through at least the beginning of season six, as there's at least one interior picture of Cadance and Shining Armor with Flurry Heart.
  • The unicorn mare on the cover (an original character developed for the book), who looks like a wizard, is named Firebrand.


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For those who are still watching Amazon, the Tails of Equestria page there is now saying that it will be shipped out on March 10th, rather than March 3rd.

The book is still listed as being sold via intermediary storefronts, rather than directly from Amazon or the distributors. Interestingly, a second storefront - Heliotoys - is now also allowing for pre-orders, with a much lower shipping price compared to collecTOYbles (i.e. $4.49 instead of $12.99).


Big reveal for season 7.

Major news:
We get to see Rainbow and AJ's parents this season! For Rainbow, Windy Whistles and Bow(could also be "Beau" as it was spoken) Hot Hoof. (Some are speculating Windy Whistles may end up being based on Wind Whistler from G1. Like Twilight's mom is based on G1 Twilight.) AJ's parents are Bright Mac and Pear Butter, and it was made clear they're appearing in a flashback. Said flashback is a story about how they met.


With that spoiler:

Spoiler:
Good on the flashback. If they had AJ's parents show up with some bit about, 'Oh, they were just out of the house whenever you dropped by', the fans would have gone berserk. Okay, they will anyway, but more so.


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Well at least we are finally getting more info on season 7 and it looks like a season 8. I am really happy to hear about finally seeing those characters' parents. But I would really like to see a preview for the movie.


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Domestic orders direct from the distributor have now gone live! For customers in the United States and Canada, you can pre-order Tails of Equestria from Soda Pop Miniatures.

For those wondering, Ninja Division, the company serving as the game's American and Canadian distributor, works very closely with Soda Pop Miniatures - apparently they (ND) serve as a publisher for SPM, and some other companies - and that's why it's being conducted through their website. Also, this sales venue was directly referenced on the Tails of Equestria Facebook page, so it's pretty clearly legit.

The price is $34.95, and says that shipping is "anticipated to begin in late March." Unfortunately, the only shipping method I was given was Priority Mail 2-day, for $11.70, which is rather steep. I'd hoped that there'd be some cheaper, if slower, options.


The actors they've gotten for the movie are some pretty big musical theatre talent. That should bode well for songs.


Looks like Season 7 starts April 15th! Zap2it is usually right. Give it a week and I bet we'll have the title and synopsis for the premiere. (That info usually turns up about a month before they air.)


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Hopefully they are right, can't wait for more info on MLP season 7, MLP the movie, and the EG specials .


Still no title/synopsis for the premiere, but Zap2it is listing episode 3 (without title) for April 22. Looks like the April 15th start date is legit since it hasn't changed. It's odd we haven't seen at least the title show up for the premiere. It must be really spoilery or Hasbro's getting better at locking info down.


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I just wanted to remind you in advance to please use the spoiler blocks here for when you find out forthcoming episode titles/summaries, Talia.


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Well, we have titles and a sort of synopsis for the first part of Season 7
and a bit of other info besides.

Spoilers:

Celestial Advice- Twilight agonizes over Starlight Glimmer's future and receives some much needed advice from her mentor.

All Bottled Up- Starlight Glimmer loses Twilight's Friendship map. Afraid her anger might get out of control Starlight casts a calming spells while the pony's search for the lost map.

Other tidbits include confirmation that William Shatner and Felica Day are guest starring this season, and an episode will feature Rainbow's "over enthusiastic parents". No mention if these will be one and the same episode.

Source plus snippet of presumably the first episode here


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Spoiler:
Another bad Starlight episode were she does the same stupid crap again and again.


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Another bad Starlight episode were she does the same stupid crap again and again.

Flagged for needing spoiler tag. Please do not talk about the content of episodes that haven't aired yet without spoilering them!


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Considering I started this one, I will say I am okay if people do not use spoilers. Also since my statement is so generic it is hardly considered a spoiler. It would be like saying a person died on CSI or there is romantic drama on a WB show.


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Being the originator of the thread does not mean that you have carte blanche to post spoilers, especially when you've been asked not to. It doesn't matter if you are okay with spoilers or not; it matters whether everyone else is.

Likewise, your statement is not generic, as it pertains to the specific actions of a specific character. The level of generality you're referring to would be more like if you said that there was a friendship problem, and that was all.


Another Season 7 teaser!

Spoiler:
Well, this is interesting. What spell are Starlight and Sunburst casting?


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TaliaKirana wrote:

Another Season 7 teaser!

** spoiler omitted **

I'm more curious as to why

Spoiler:
Twilight and Celestia are all spectral in the background
.


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They are casting a "plot" spell;)


Title and synopsis for Episode 3.

Spoiler:
"A Flurry of Emotions" - Ah, the inevitable Twilight babysitting ep we were expecting. I hope it stays a solo Twilight episode (with maybe Spike as support).

Title, synopsis, and airdate for Episode 4.

Spoiler:
"Rock Solid Friendship" - Eh, I was kind of hoping they'd let Maud rest for a season. I don't hate her, but I'd rather have seen one of Pinkie's other sisters get the spotlight. Or at least have all three of them show up in Ponyville rather than just Maud.


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Both of those episodes sounds interesting.

I really wish they would do something with Celestia's and Luna's old castle. They went to the trouble to clean/fix it up and yet haven't even touched in two seasons.

I hope the rumors are true that we are finally getting a Celestia focused episode.

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