So, here's one for the FaWtLers, since we represent a wide swath of ages, geographic areas, ethnicities, and genders:
Is there anyone here who doesn't absolutely despise commercials with kids singing?
I'm trying to listen to the Pandora Classical Christmas channel, and the commercials are all for Applebee's, with the usual, "Wouldn't it be cute to have a bunch of kids singing Christmas carols off-key, with the usual words replaced by ads for our product?"
No, no it wouldn't. It makes me grind my teeth. It makes me turn off Pandora. It makes me decide to boycott Applebee's for the year.
Why, why, why, why, WHY?!?!?!?
I hate most ads in general.
A few are funny or entertaining (or sometimes just quirky) enough that I'm okay with - or even laugh at - them when they come around.
Most are an obnoxious part of life that I sit* through as payment to get to the good stuff.
As far as kids singing goes... it varies. I'm usually not fond of the "replace-a-word" kind of songs, but I've been immature enough to do that at one point in my life, soooooooo... I kind of shrug at it.
I mean... I'm clearly mature enough that I don't do that anymore...
*quietly sweeps lyrics to, "Jingle Bells, Batman Smells" under the rug...*
*
I've completely cut out television, have commercial free Hulu, and skip ad every time on YouTube.
So, thankfully I don't remember anymore.
I tend to let them play... except for recently, as my internet has grown shoddy enough to make it not just obnoxious, but literally impossible to do so (as the ads get frozen part way through and won't play to completion).
I tend to figure I'm doing my part to give people I like money, however little it is.
That said, I find it exceptionally obnoxious that YouTube doesn't put advertisements for those who aren't signed up for it - but as soon as you have an account? BAM: ads before, during, and after every daggum video.
That? Dirty tactics.
EDIT: No! No! I am clooooooooooothed, I say~! *re-dresses*
Also because I didn't finish my first post.
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So, here's one for the FaWtLers, since we represent a wide swath of ages, geographic areas, ethnicities, and genders:
Is there anyone here who doesn't absolutely despise commercials with kids singing?
I'm trying to listen to the Pandora Classical Christmas channel, and the commercials are all for Applebee's, with the usual, "Wouldn't it be cute to have a bunch of kids singing Christmas carols off-key, with the usual words replaced by ads for our product?"
No, no it wouldn't. It makes me grind my teeth. It makes me turn off Pandora. It makes me decide to boycott Applebee's for the year.
Why, why, why, why, WHY?!?!?!?
I don't. I like kids singing. It's humbling. For both performer and audience. People tend to have issues with humility with respect to entertainment, and want everyone to be perfect every time. It just doesn't work that way in real life. We are not born artists, prize fighters, role players or anything like that. There's a lot of blah and room for improvement along the way, and the moment that is forgotten is the moment one becomes a diva, a jerk, a bore. Watching someone develop into a true performer, regardless of the type of art, is a rare delight. So yeah, listen to those kids sing off key. It's quasi music at best. But the learning process is never pretty- remember your first time in the DMs chair? But it is a step along the path for those who stick with it and become someone greater than they currently are.
They'll find that b note. Eventually.
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If we don't sing our songs then Master Freehold won't give us our porridge. And we're ever so hungry!
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I don't. I like kids singing. It's humbling. For both performer and audience. People tend to have issues with humility with respect to entertainment, and want everyone to be perfect every time. It just doesn't work that way in real life. We are not born artists, prize fighters, role players or anything like that. There's a lot of blah and room for improvement along the way, and the moment that is forgotten is the moment one becomes a diva, a jerk, a bore. Watching someone develop into a true performer, regardless of the type of art, is a rare delight. So yeah, listen to those kids sing off key. It's quasi music at best. But it is a step along the path for those who stick with it and become someone greater than they currently are.So, here's one for the FaWtLers, since we represent a wide swath of ages, geographic areas, ethnicities, and genders:
Is there anyone here who doesn't absolutely despise commercials with kids singing?
I'm trying to listen to the Pandora Classical Christmas channel, and the commercials are all for Applebee's, with the usual, "Wouldn't it be cute to have a bunch of kids singing Christmas carols off-key, with the usual words replaced by ads for our product?"
No, no it wouldn't. It makes me grind my teeth. It makes me turn off Pandora. It makes me decide to boycott Applebee's for the year.
Why, why, why, why, WHY?!?!?!?
Ah, that's where we fundamentally disagree, then. I love going to the performances at my school for precisely those reasons. Kids in commercials? They've been carefully screened, tested, auditioned, and are products of parents who've gone out of their way to monitor casting calls and audition their kids. I find it a very cynical exercise. If I heard, "Applebee's went to Podunk Elementary and had the students there perform this song", I'd be very forgiving. But I know that Applebee's took a bunch of "groomed to be future stars" kids and had them intentionally sing gratingly.
I consider it two very different end results.
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All that matters is an education! A rigid, non-conformist education. With lots of walls! And hookers!
In fact, forget the kids, education and walls!
I'll keep the razor and shaving cream though...
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So, here's one for the FaWtLers, since we represent a wide swath of ages, geographic areas, ethnicities, and genders:
Is there anyone here who doesn't absolutely despise commercials with kids singing?
I'm trying to listen to the Pandora Classical Christmas channel, and the commercials are all for Applebee's, with the usual, "Wouldn't it be cute to have a bunch of kids singing Christmas carols off-key, with the usual words replaced by ads for our product?"
No, no it wouldn't. It makes me grind my teeth. It makes me turn off Pandora. It makes me decide to boycott Applebee's for the year.
Why, why, why, why, WHY?!?!?!?
Yes. Children singing is fine, if they're relations of yours or whatever, but in adverts or on record, it's done for Immortal-level cutesyfying purposes, and is horrible. I completely bar that, along with the awful plinky-plonky fake naive ukelele soundtracks that came in somewhen around 2005/6
If the kids were just yelling or howling or chanting, that'd be fine; it'd sound like one of Yoko Ono's more out-there productions. Not very Christmassy, though, I suppose.
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So, here's one for the FaWtLers, since we represent a wide swath of ages, geographic areas, ethnicities, and genders:
Is there anyone here who doesn't absolutely despise commercials with kids singing?
I'm trying to listen to the Pandora Classical Christmas channel, and the commercials are all for Applebee's, with the usual, "Wouldn't it be cute to have a bunch of kids singing Christmas carols off-key, with the usual words replaced by ads for our product?"
No, no it wouldn't. It makes me grind my teeth. It makes me turn off Pandora. It makes me decide to boycott Applebee's for the year.
Why, why, why, why, WHY?!?!?!?
I love when kids sing. They are SO cute!
But I don't watch ads, unless it is the Super Bowl when the ads are all part of the entertainment. Even on my mom's TV they have an ad skipping app.
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To be clear: I wasn't asking about kids' singing in general. I was asking about commercials that feature kids' singing.
I consider the two things very different animals...
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Ah, that's where we fundamentally disagree, then. I love going to the performances at my school for precisely those reasons. Kids in commercials? They've been carefully screened, tested, auditioned, and are products of parents who've gone out of their way to monitor casting calls and audition their kids. I find it a very cynical exercise. If I heard, "Applebee's went to Podunk Elementary and had the students there perform this song", I'd be very forgiving. But I know that Applebee's took a bunch of "groomed to be future stars" kids and had them intentionally sing...I don't. I like kids singing. It's humbling. For both performer and audience. People tend to have issues with humility with respect to entertainment, and want everyone to be perfect every time. It just doesn't work that way in real life. We are not born artists, prize fighters, role players or anything like that. There's a lot of blah and room for improvement along the way, and the moment that is forgotten is the moment one becomes a diva, a jerk, a bore. Watching someone develop into a true performer, regardless of the type of art, is a rare delight. So yeah, listen to those kids sing off key. It's quasi music at best. But it is a step along the path for those who stick with it and become someone greater than they currently are.So, here's one for the FaWtLers, since we represent a wide swath of ages, geographic areas, ethnicities, and genders:
Is there anyone here who doesn't absolutely despise commercials with kids singing?
I'm trying to listen to the Pandora Classical Christmas channel, and the commercials are all for Applebee's, with the usual, "Wouldn't it be cute to have a bunch of kids singing Christmas carols off-key, with the usual words replaced by ads for our product?"
No, no it wouldn't. It makes me grind my teeth. It makes me turn off Pandora. It makes me decide to boycott Applebee's for the year.
Why, why, why, why, WHY?!?!?!?
with my (very) limited experience in kids in show biz, kids are rarely(very rarely) as good as you put forth here. Also kid casting calls are often at the mercy of the school year, despite progress made in home schooling, most kids who are in the biz are still in school, which means the casting call results in you getting... whatever you get, depend on the time of year. And those commercial shoots are mother f@~@ing MURDER. You have to be there at 3 am just to get in, and the shoot takes forever and kids aren't going to get much in the way of food or drink or breaks. A lot of times you just go in, thank your stars you got some exposure, do it in as few takes as possible, and go home. Unless the company is putting some big bucks into the production(companies vary wildly, and Applebee's isn't known for its advertising department), most directors want the kids to stand on the green x, do a bit, and go home. They have 3 more commercials to do that day, and rent was due 3 days ago.
That said, my own experiences may have made me a bit... Bitter.
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I just generally despise ads, except for the occasional well-done dryly humorous ones. But those are few and far between, so it's mostly the despisement.
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So!
To my tremendous surprise, The Little Prince is a film that both terrifies me as a parent, but is especially moving.
I don't care what Rotten Tomatoes says, it is not a "family-friendly" film - as a parent, I cannot agree with the "lesson" learned by the child as a lesson learned by the child - it's a bad lesson and should feel bad... for a child; at least not without heavy caveats.
For an adult, though? Or for those families with strong discussions and children that learn lessons more from discussions than the films? It's phenomenal.
It's a heavy-handed morality play, for sure, with a pretty anvilicious aspect... but in that, at least, it holds true to the original source material.
Mild (but significant) spoilers ahead.
The first two-thirds is charming, if (as noted) heavy-handed in its lessons and comparisons, but outside of its cartoonish rigidity, it mostly shows a charmingly realistic world - complete with people contacting the police at the right time and for the right reasons, and often being simultaneously sensible and stupid - often about the same thing as the same time. Surprisingly real. As a very distracted father, I kind of... ignored this extremely long film. I would have it playing while doing other things (which is what I do), but I was, frankly, mistaken. Once it hit a certain point in this section of the film, I had to go back to the beginning and watch it again. It wasn't really life-changing, it was just... charming. I must say that I strongly disagree with several of the protagonists, and don't actually believe the mother to be "wrong" nor the neighbor "right" - instead I find her extremely loving and caring and giving, if overworked and tired and overzealous, leading to being reasonable only half the time; and the movie does a good job of making them both sympathetic and clearly flawed. Similarly the girl.
About 2/3rds of the way in, it seemingly abandons the "real-life" conceit that it's worked so hard to build. Frankly, I kind of thought it was a shark jump. I was wrong. It also went to none of the three places I thought it would.
It eventually returns to its standard MO, and ends beautifully.
It is long. I was not able to finish it in a sitting, but mostly that's a combination of internet troubles (it's on Netflix) and children and other real life distractions.
And the soundtrack is shockingly delightful.
It comes with a strong recommendation... but not for kids without parental oversight and strong conversations afterwords.
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Interesting, tactics.
Thank you.
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BARON VON HESHVAUN~!
GET TO TAIG'S CONTEST AND CLAIM YOUR AWESOME DIRE RUGRAT STUFF~! XD
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RE: NH's commercial question -- I have time for commercials. And commercials that try to be "cute" in such a brute-force manner only offend me. Keep singin' kids, get better at it; don't put said kids on a screen in front of me.
I help train/coach the youth in singing at my local congregation. While that has aesthetic challenges a-plenty, having the opportunity to help a youngling improve in singing is far better than being . . . subjected to (victimized by??) the oppression of try-hard advertising.
But, then -- I'm a jerk. Go figure.
Oh! One more thing about The Little Prince - it's not even necessarily a lesson you "need" to learn in order to enjoy the film. And, you know, again, I don't agree with every part of it (though I agree with part of what the girl learns, as expressed in the "not a shark jump, though I thought it was" part of the film). So even though it's heavy-handed, and I didn't particularly need to be reminded, I still loved it and thought it was good.
Felt that was important to share: you might not need the lesson, but that doesn't diminish (in my eyes) the recommendation.
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Lick the outlet... you know you want to...When I was a kid, it was beaten into our heads that you never talk to strangers, much less got into a stranger's car. Plus, the height of internet safety was never meeting strange people from the internet. Now? A program on my phone uses the internet to summon strangers so that I may get into their cars, and this is a completely normal thing.
I wonder what dangerous stuff we're taught to never do today will be typical activities in the future?
Do you want a safety briefing?
Because this is how we get a safety briefing.
;)
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What if I just stuck my finger in an outlet, when I was sleeping.
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OK, after losing my entire lunch hour to this phenomenon, I thought I'd conduct a second totally-random survey:
At the grocery store, do you self-bag or just stand there?
I ask because I basically just lost my lunch hour in a loooong grocery line, watching people stand there, hands empty, patiently waiting for the checker to finish checking all the items, then stand there, patiently waiting for the checker to bag all the items. Timing the two (did I mention I spent most of my lunch hour in a line... with THREE people ahead of me?), they were about equal. So if people just stepped up and bagged their own groceries, the line would move twice as fast.
Yet in the entire store, I and one other guy were the only ones who self-bagged. Everyone else just waited. And waited. And waited.
What was odd was that I overheard the other self-bagger ask why no employees were bagging, and the checker responded with a mysterious, "Oh, California just passed a law about that."
I hadn't heard of any such ridiculous law, so I was wondering how many self-baggers and how many patient waiters we have?
(Having a kid with you or any other disability automatically qualifies you for the, "Guilt-free patient waiter" line...)
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RE: NH's commercial question -- I have time for commercials. And commercials that try to be "cute" in such a brute-force manner only offend me. Keep singin' kids, get better at it; don't put said kids on a screen in front of me.
I help train/coach the youth in singing at my local congregation. While that has aesthetic challenges a-plenty, having the opportunity to help a youngling improve in singing is far better than being . . . subjected to (victimized by??) the oppression of try-hard advertising.
But, then -- I'm a jerk. Go figure.
Nah, I voluntarily chaperone hundreds of choir kids every year, donate to their performances, and otherwise hear them sing the same songs dozens and dozens of times... and I never get tired of it.
It's exactly as you said -- the exploitative nature of commercializing them offends me to the point that I have to turn the radio off. Every time.
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OK, after losing my entire lunch hour to this phenomenon, I thought I'd conduct a second totally-random survey:
At the grocery store, do you self-bag or just stand there?
I ask because I basically just lost my lunch hour in a loooong grocery line, watching people stand there, hands empty, patiently waiting for the checker to finish checking all the items, then stand there, patiently waiting for the checker to bag all the items. Timing the two (did I mention I spent most of my lunch hour in a line... with THREE people ahead of me?), they were about equal. So if people just stepped up and bagged their own groceries, the line would move twice as fast.
Yet in the entire store, I and one other guy were the only ones who self-bagged. Everyone else just waited. And waited. And waited.
What was odd was that I overheard the other self-bagger ask why no employees were bagging, and the checker responded with a mysterious, "Oh, California just passed a law about that."
I hadn't heard of any such ridiculous law, so I was wondering how many self-baggers and how many patient waiters we have?
(Having a kid with you or any other disability automatically qualifies you for the, "Guilt-free patient waiter" line...
I always self bag. Always.
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What if I just stuck my finger in an outlet, when I was sleeping.
How!? o_O
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I always self bag. Always.OK, after losing my entire lunch hour to this phenomenon, I thought I'd conduct a second totally-random survey:
At the grocery store, do you self-bag or just stand there?
I ask because I basically just lost my lunch hour in a loooong grocery line, watching people stand there, hands empty, patiently waiting for the checker to finish checking all the items, then stand there, patiently waiting for the checker to bag all the items. Timing the two (did I mention I spent most of my lunch hour in a line... with THREE people ahead of me?), they were about equal. So if people just stepped up and bagged their own groceries, the line would move twice as fast.
Yet in the entire store, I and one other guy were the only ones who self-bagged. Everyone else just waited. And waited. And waited.
What was odd was that I overheard the other self-bagger ask why no employees were bagging, and the checker responded with a mysterious, "Oh, California just passed a law about that."
I hadn't heard of any such ridiculous law, so I was wondering how many self-baggers and how many patient waiters we have?
(Having a kid with you or any other disability automatically qualifies you for the, "Guilt-free patient waiter" line...
I used to sack groceries in high school back when we used paper bags so I always prefer to bag my own. Sadly the physical layout of manned super wal mart checkouts makes that impossible. :/
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Well, some people move around a lot when they're sleeping.What if I just stuck my finger in an outlet, when I was sleeping.How!? o_O
OK, but how does a finger get in the little holes??
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Lick the outlet... you know you want to...When I was a kid, it was beaten into our heads that you never talk to strangers, much less got into a stranger's car. Plus, the height of internet safety was never meeting strange people from the internet. Now? A program on my phone uses the internet to summon strangers so that I may get into their cars, and this is a completely normal thing.
I wonder what dangerous stuff we're taught to never do today will be typical activities in the future?
Do you want a safety briefing?
Because this is how we get a safety briefing.
;)
Yes, I do!
Oh, you said briefing, not briefs.
Never mind, then.
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Yup, lived in a s%%~ty apartment and had a broken outlet behind the bedside table, but it had shifted in our newlywed enthusiasm and I stuck my finger in it while I was sleeping.
But in it's defense, it cured a nerve pinching in shoulder without the surgery I supposedly needed.
Only thing I remember is a bright flash and my wife asking me if I was okay.
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Um, yes. That's totally what happened.
*shoves Captain Yesterday Mark One's charred corpse back into locker*
Why do I even still have this thing...
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Yup, lived in a s#%$ty apartment and had a broken outlet behind the bedside table, but it had shifted in our newlywed enthusiasm and I stuck my finger in it while I was sleeping.
But in it's defense, it cured a nerve pinching in shoulder without the surgery I supposedly needed.
Only thing I remember is a bright flash and my wife asking me if I was okay.
So, being a responsible citizen, I put a penny into each side of a pair of prongs, got out a fifty cent piece, put on my gloves, sat to the side, and tested what happens when you complete such a circuit.
BOOM! The 50-cent piece shot across the 8' hallway, putting a dent in the opposite wall. Melted into the face of the coin were two spots where the pennies had touched.
Science is cool!
Just to prove how cool, I went ahead and left the pennies for the next person to find...
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Nope: alignment revoked!
;P
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*facepalm*
Sooo many safety violations.......
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OK, after losing my entire lunch hour to this phenomenon, I thought I'd conduct a second totally-random survey:
At the grocery store, do you self-bag or just stand there?
I ask because I basically just lost my lunch hour in a loooong grocery line, watching people stand there, hands empty, patiently waiting for the checker to finish checking all the items, then stand there, patiently waiting for the checker to bag all the items. Timing the two (did I mention I spent most of my lunch hour in a line... with THREE people ahead of me?), they were about equal. So if people just stepped up and bagged their own groceries, the line would move twice as fast.
Yet in the entire store, I and one other guy were the only ones who self-bagged. Everyone else just waited. And waited. And waited.
What was odd was that I overheard the other self-bagger ask why no employees were bagging, and the checker responded with a mysterious, "Oh, California just passed a law about that."
I hadn't heard of any such ridiculous law, so I was wondering how many self-baggers and how many patient waiters we have?
(Having a kid with you or any other disability automatically qualifies you for the, "Guilt-free patient waiter" line...)
I wouldn't stand there... I would complain to management.
The options are self check out or cashier? Because if I select the cashier they always bag my stuff without any standing around needed. Ca made a law against cashiers bagging? There aren't any REAL issues out there for law makers to handle?! This was the pressing legal issue of your state?
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I always self bag. Always.For me it depends on what the expectation appears to be. I'm more than happy to bag my stuff if they don't mind.
Who would mind customer putting his purchases in his bag?!
Anyway, here you'd be probably lynched for delaying the queue if you'd waited for cashier to bag your things, they don't do that, except for very few places, and often only for the first product when they give you the bag.
Using your own bag (or reusing a bag from the previous purchase) is still rather common anyway.
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OK, after losing my entire lunch hour to this phenomenon, I thought I'd conduct a second totally-random survey:
At the grocery store, do you self-bag or just stand there?
I ask because I basically just lost my lunch hour in a loooong grocery line, watching people stand there, hands empty, patiently waiting for the checker to finish checking all the items, then stand there, patiently waiting for the checker to bag all the items. Timing the two (did I mention I spent most of my lunch hour in a line... with THREE people ahead of me?), they were about equal. So if people just stepped up and bagged their own groceries, the line would move twice as fast.
Yet in the entire store, I and one other guy were the only ones who self-bagged. Everyone else just waited. And waited. And waited.
What was odd was that I overheard the other self-bagger ask why no employees were bagging, and the checker responded with a mysterious, "Oh, California just passed a law about that."
I hadn't heard of any such ridiculous law, so I was wondering how many self-baggers and how many patient waiters we have?
(Having a kid with you or any other disability automatically qualifies you for the, "Guilt-free patient waiter" line...)
I wouldn't stand there... I would complain to management.
The options are self check out or cashier? Because if I select the cashier they always bag my stuff without any standing around needed. Ca made a law against cashiers bagging? There aren't any REAL issues out there for law makers to handle?! This was the pressing legal issue of your state?
So, it was ONE cashier per line, so the cashier had to both bag and scan. This took them twice as long as it should have had they only been scanning or only been bagging.
The other self-bagger asked why with such a crowd that there weren't baggers, and the cashier to whom he was speaking said that California passed a law.
I do not believe this, nor could I find any reference to it.
But yes, in markets where you have TWO employees (one scanning, one bagging), things run smoothly and standing there is a reasonable thing to do. In markets where you have one employee, self-bagging is faster for both you and everyone behind you. So I was curious as to other people's experiences.
EDIT: And don't get me started on Europe. Most places you have to weigh your own fruit, bag it, and sometimes even put a price on it. You're expected to have your own bags and bag everything yourself. Unless you're in France, where if you touch a single piece of fruit at a fruit stand the vendor will scream to have your hands cut off...
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Speaking of a*@~#*$s, I'm off to work, where I get to invent 100 new ways of telling people we don't have Hatchimals in a soul crushing fashion.
"Good news!... we will be getting more in... eventually... Easter maybe..."
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Who would mind customer putting his purchases in his bag?!The stores that literally have the bagging area separated from the customer, for one.
o.O
What?
Are we speaking about super/hipermarkets, or some sort of specialty shops, where customer does not come in contact with the purchased goods until he is given them to his hands already packed?
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Huh? Weird. Lanes are designed in such a way as to make it very efficient for the cashier to be the one bagging. I would be rude if I went around the counter to help bag.
I would probably still wait for the cashier if in such a store as you describe. I certainly wouldn't feel any guilt over it. It's the store's fault not mine. Heck if you get in line behind my big full cart you should just expect to wait. Getting upset is rude.
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It is as TOZ says, lanes aren't designed for customers to be able to bag.
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Weird. The three places I go where I self-bag (Target, the Korean store, and Trader Joe's) all have counters that are right there, so it's just as easy for the customer to bag as the cashier. The one that has baggers (Andronico's) is the only one that separates the customer from the scanned groceries.
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And for totally-unrelated raisins: Video link!
(Pretty safe for work, but looooong, so probably not TOO safe)
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Pushy parents that aren't subtle trying to be subtle AND pushy crack me up!
Or whatever the opposite of that is.
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"I want you to put this powerwheels together while I'm shopping elsewhere"
"We have twenty four hour assembly"
"Can't you just throw it together quick"
"You don't want me just throwing it together quick"
He went and found two different managers trying to get someone to make me assemble it.