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OK, I was lucky enough to have a great GM explain some of the PFS Sunder rules to me (thanks Ziz!), but alas, I was wondering...
Can a PCs gear be sundered in PFS play, and assuming the answer is yes, what happens to that gear?
I read in an earlier thread that gear found during a scenario ends up on the sheet at the end of the adventure, regardless of whether or not it was sundered during the scenario. But what about gear the PC has on him, that may get sundered by an enemy during an encounter?
I know some GMs don't particularly like things like sunder, so before I go around breaking things, I was wondering what might happen to my own broken stuff!
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Repairing sundered gear (or throwing it away if it's completely destroyed) would be noted on the "items bought/conditions cleared" section of a player's Chronicle. If you choose not to fix the broken equipment, you'd denote that your scimitar now has the "broken" condition in the "items sold/conditions gained" section of the Chronicle.
In general, though, sundering people's gear is something that should be reserved for NPCs who specifically call for that in their tactics.
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Repairing sundered gear (or throwing it away if it's completely destroyed) would be noted on the "items bought/conditions cleared" section of a player's Chronicle. If you choose not to fix the broken equipment, you'd denote that your scimitar now has the "broken" condition in the "items sold/conditions gained" section of the Chronicle.
In general, though, sundering people's gear is something that should be reserved for NPCs who specifically call for that in their tactics.
Very good sir, thank you for the quick reply!
*Hefts axe, off to adventure...*
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In general, though, sundering people's gear is something that should be reserved for NPCs who specifically call for that in their tactics.Or when all six of the players at your table are only equipped with their Heirloom Weapons. ;-)
Or are all wearing wayfinders equipped with clear spindles ioun stones! lol
Note that most sundered items (including magic items, to a point) can be repaired with a Make Whole spell. So it's not the end of the world.
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Note that most sundered items (including magic items, to a point) can be repaired with a Make Whole spell. So it's not the end of the world.You can use Mending to a certain extent, too, right?
To the extent that the item weighs up to 1 pound per caster level and (if destroyed) wasn't magical, yes. It's got a lot better since 3.5.
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the DM piped up saying that the groups max gold at the end would be affected
This is absolutely wrong. It has been made clear on numerous occasions that PCs that sunder enemy equipment do not affect the gold rewards at the end. OTOH, smashing the enemy's stuff will make it unavailable for use during the scenario. Sundering is being evaluated the same as consumable items being used during a scenario.
That being said, sundering is a very sensitive subject. To my knowledge, there has only been one case of an NPC spec'd with sunder tactics, so it is definitely rare. But consider this. The more players do it, the more likely it will appear in monster tactics in future scenarios. Personally, I think sunder is just as acceptable as any other combat maneuver, but since soo many players thing otherwise, I caution anyone who does it, especially if you have an entire character build around it. Tred there at your own risk.
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In general it's really easy to repair most broken gear. Any 3rd level caster can repair a +1 sword or +1 armor (with Mending level 0 spell), and single Make Whole spell is needed if the item is broken.
Since we have an indeterminate amount of time between scenarios, I don't see why these things can't be repaired.
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At the end he got all three pieces as "destroyed by rust monster" in conditions gained.
In general it's really easy to repair most broken gear. Any 3rd level caster can repair a +1 sword or +1 armor (with Mending level 0 spell), and single Make Whole spell is needed if the item is broken.
Since we have an indeterminate amount of time between scenarios, I don't see why these things can't be repaired.
Not quite. Make Whole says it can fix destroyed magic items if your caster level is twice the CL of the item. "+X" items have a CL of 3X. So to use Make Whole to repair a completely destroyed +1 longsword, for example, the caster must have a caster level of 6 or higher. Yes, that means it's impossible to use Make Whole to repair destroyed +4 or +5 items...
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That being said, sundering is a very sensitive subject. To my knowledge, there has only been one case of an NPC spec'd with sunder tactics, so it is definitely rare. But consider this. The more players do it, the more likely it will appear in monster tactics in future scenarios. Personally, I think sunder is just as acceptable as any other combat maneuver, but since soo many players thing otherwise, I caution anyone who does it, especially if you have an entire character build around it. Tred there at your own risk.
I haven't seen much of it either, however I was shocked to see that...
If the pegasus is near defeat, the gremlins emerge and cast shatter on the weapons of any melee-based PCs.
Guess they're bringing that tactic back!
I haven't seen much of it either, however I was shocked to see that...** spoiler omitted **