Mithral Tower Shield


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Hi

I have a quick question, if you have a Mithral Tower Shield, does the +2 Max Dex apply so the stats become like this?

Shield Bonus: +4
Maximum Dex Bonus: +4
Armor Check Penalty: -7
Arcane Spell Failure Chance: 40%
Weight: 22 lbs.

Price: 1030gp.


I agree with your math.


Thanks :)

The reason I ask is that in the group I play in we where not sure if the +2 Maximum Dex Bonus from mithral also applied to shields such as Tower Shield and not only armors.


Yeah, that looks right. Although, the tower shield is described as a wooden shield, so some GMs may rule a mithril tower shield cannot be made using the RAW. My group has used mithril tower shields on many occasions but that's us.

The only thing about a tower shield that I don't like is that making it mithril doesn't bring it below 20 pounds so it can be tucked away in a Glove of Storing. But I think that's just the power gamer in me talking.

Shadow Lodge

This is true, and was also true in 3.5, but there where a few published Mithral Tower Shields. I believe in MIC, Complete Divine, and the 3.0 Item Book I can't recall the name of off hand.

Liberty's Edge

The stats look right to me as well.
As for the "Tower Shield is wooden" comment, I'd just say make it out of darkwood and apply the same modifiers, since Darkwood is essentially the "mithril" for wood. Not as hard, and much more flammable, but that's the trade-off for it being cheaper.
I like the image of a gleaming mithril tower shield, though. Talk about a "look at me" item!


jakebacon wrote:
Yeah, that looks right. Although, the tower shield is described as a wooden shield, so some GMs may rule a mithril tower shield cannot be made using the RAW.

Yes, since it says in the rules that a tower shield has 5 hardness, that suggests to me that they're ordinarily made out of wood, not metal. So ask your GM!


Beckett wrote:
This is true, and was also true in 3.5, but there where a few published Mithral Tower Shields. I believe in MIC, Complete Divine, and the 3.0 Item Book I can't recall the name of off hand.

Races of Stone and Races of the Wild featured Adamantine and Mithral Tower Shields, respectively.


jakebacon wrote:

Yeah, that looks right. Although, the tower shield is described as a wooden shield, so some GMs may rule a mithril tower shield cannot be made using the RAW. My group has used mithril tower shields on many occasions but that's us.

The only thing about a tower shield that I don't like is that making it mithril doesn't bring it below 20 pounds so it can be tucked away in a Glove of Storing. But I think that's just the power gamer in me talking.

I always imagined tower shields as looking like this and I never really thought of them as being made out of wood. Thanks for pointing that out. The more you know!


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A mithral tower shield should be significantly heavier than 22 pounds. The 45 pound tower shield is wooden. Somewhere there are stats for a metal tower shield, and it's closer to 70 or 80 pounds in weight.


Zurai wrote:
A mithral tower shield should be significantly heavier than 22 pounds. The 45 pound tower shield is wooden. Somewhere there are stats for a metal tower shield, and it's closer to 70 or 80 pounds in weight.

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The stats for a Steel Tower Shield from 3.5 book were :

Steel Tower Shield Cost:
75 gp
Shield Bonus:+4
Max Dex: +2 (+4 Mithril)
Armor Check Penalty: –10 (-7 Mithril)
Spell Failure: 50% (40% Mithril)
Weight: 100 lb. (50 lbs Mithril)

I would also assume that since tower shields normally cannot be mithril, they were not planned in that +1000 for mithril shields. It would be more like the medium armor cost at least.


Shar Tahl wrote:

The stats for a Steel Tower Shield from 3.5 book were :

Steel Tower Shield Cost:
75 gp
Shield Bonus:+4
Max Dex: +2 (+4 Mithril)
Armor Check Penalty: –10 (-7 Mithril)
Spell Failure: 50% (40% Mithril)
Weight: 100 lb. (50 lbs Mithril)

I would also assume that since tower shields normally cannot be mithril, they were not planned in that +1000 for mithril shields. It would be more like the medium armor cost at least.

Book and Page # please.....

Liberty's Edge

Races of Stone p158


Zurai wrote:
A mithral tower shield should be significantly heavier than 22 pounds. The 45 pound tower shield is wooden. Somewhere there are stats for a metal tower shield, and it's closer to 70 or 80 pounds in weight.

A metal tower shield wouldn't have to be as thick. The roman shield was a composite material almost exactly like current plywood, and was rather thick, with lacquor on the top.

The Greek shields were entirely different in design, and the middle age kite shield was again different in design and construction.

Heck a modern ballistic riot shield would probably be the best "real world equivilent" to a mithral tower shield.


Thanks for the feedback :)


Beckett wrote:
This is true, and was also true in 3.5, but there where a few published Mithral Tower Shields. I believe in MIC, Complete Divine, and the 3.0 Item Book I can't recall the name of off hand.

Races of Wild as well.

What they basically did in 3.5 was you double the weight for making the metal version of a tower shield. Making it mithral weighs the same as a wooden one.


What about the Force tower shield. "This +1 arrow deflection ghost touch mithral tower shield " it is the open line in the description. so can you have a mithral tower shield?

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William Hernandez 60 wrote:
What about the Force tower shield. "This +1 arrow deflection ghost touch mithral tower shield " it is the open line in the description. so can you have a mithral tower shield?

You can't make a Mitral Tower Shield, but that is a custom magic item is one.

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