Any chance of a coeurl in the next Bestiary?


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Hope so!

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Brian E. Harris wrote:
Hope so!

No idea what a Coeurl is?

Liberty's Edge

coeurl...the daddy of the displacer beast.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Slim chances, as the monster is not Open Content. Paizo had a special agreement to publish it, not sure if it wasn't a one-time thing.

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Gorbacz wrote:
Slim chances, as the monster is not Open Content. Paizo had a special agreement to publish it, not sure if it wasn't a one-time thing.

It was a one time thing. The agreement allowed them to publish it once, but they can't even refer to it again in a later product in a random encounter table, much less reprint it.


Much like the Deep Crow, as I understand it. Which is kinda sad - I'd have liked a Deep Crow in the Bestiary.

The Exchange

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In addition it's my understanding that it not being open has nothing to do with WotC or any other game publisher; it is the estate of the author (Vogt) who came up with the coeurl.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Alizor wrote:
In addition it's my understanding that it not being open has nothing to do with WotC or any other game publisher; it is the estate of the author (Vogt) who came up with the coeurl.

Correct. WotC has no claim over the coeurl. It remains the intellectual property of A. E. Van Vogt, the author who invented it.

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Ah, but what about a shift-hide razor-lash panther? ;)


What about just providing stat upgrades fro the old APs in PDF? ;)


Zmar wrote:
What about just providing stat upgrades fro the old APs in PDF? ;)

I am thinking that be a big no. From what I recall they were allowed to use it once, and never again

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Zmar wrote:
What about just providing stat upgrades fro the old APs in PDF? ;)

Nope; we'd have to secure the republication rights and that's not free. And in any case, the stats for the coeurl as they stand are already pretty much 100% compliant with the Pathfinder game anyway.


Doh.

I did the copyright maths wrong.

Stupid copyright extensions.

I thought "Black Destroyer" had already passed into public domain.

Dang. Was all hopped up, hoping to see the Paizo take on it!

Edited to add: Which AP are we referring to?

The Exchange

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Brian E. Harris wrote:

Doh.

I did the copyright maths wrong.

Stupid copyright extensions.

I thought "Black Destroyer" had already passed into public domain.

Dang. Was all hopped up, hoping to see the Paizo take on it!

Edited to add: Which AP are we referring to?

The Coeurl? I think it was in AP #22.


James Jacobs wrote:
Zmar wrote:
What about just providing stat upgrades fro the old APs in PDF? ;)
Nope; we'd have to secure the republication rights and that's not free. And in any case, the stats for the coeurl as they stand are already pretty much 100% compliant with the Pathfinder game anyway.

So we'll have to do it just like we did before ither use what's published already, or... *scrible* *scrible*

(for nobody can say a word agains creating a custom variant for my home game if it needs it).


Alizor wrote:
Brian E. Harris wrote:

Doh.

I did the copyright maths wrong.

Stupid copyright extensions.

I thought "Black Destroyer" had already passed into public domain.

Dang. Was all hopped up, hoping to see the Paizo take on it!

Edited to add: Which AP are we referring to?

The Coeurl? I think it was in AP #22.

(Legacy of Fire vol. 4 - The End of Eternity - for those too lazy to look for it ;) )


Zmar wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Zmar wrote:
What about just providing stat upgrades fro the old APs in PDF? ;)
Nope; we'd have to secure the republication rights and that's not free. And in any case, the stats for the coeurl as they stand are already pretty much 100% compliant with the Pathfinder game anyway.

So we'll have to do it just like we did before ither use what's published already, or... *scrible* *scrible*

(for nobody can say a word agains creating a custom variant for my home game if it needs it).

Oh, there's nothing stopping me from using the already published stuff. I'd just love to see Paizo's art-take on it, and see some coeurl-based adventurey goodness.


Brian E. Harris wrote:
Zmar wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Zmar wrote:
What about just providing stat upgrades fro the old APs in PDF? ;)
Nope; we'd have to secure the republication rights and that's not free. And in any case, the stats for the coeurl as they stand are already pretty much 100% compliant with the Pathfinder game anyway.

So we'll have to do it just like we did before ither use what's published already, or... *scrible* *scrible*

(for nobody can say a word agains creating a custom variant for my home game if it needs it).

Oh, there's nothing stopping me from using the already published stuff. I'd just love to see Paizo's art-take on it, and see some coeurl-based adventurey goodness.

regardin the art, who dont hate the Krenshar image from bestiary 2?

a shameful image

Silver Crusade

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I don't. And calling an image "shameful" because you don't like it means you need to dial your use of hyperboles.

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I love the krenshar picture in B2! I often use it to accompany guard patrols in Nidal.


This feels like a new record for necromancy. 6 years!


It seems like the message board software should give a warning for this sort of thing.

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