Come get you some PFRPG Cthulhu


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Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Hey all - Josh Stevens here.

In case you weren't aware, Wolfgang Baur's Open Design currently has three projects that are in the commissioning stage. I pitched a Call of Cthulhu/Pathfinder RPG hybrid project called "The Red Eye of Azathoth", which you can check out at:

THE EYE COMETH!

If you were on the fence about this project before, please sign up! We're still in the stage of trying to commission the project, and are always looking for more patrons. The earlier you get involved, the more influence you have over the ultimate direction of the project.

Right now, patrons are voting on the rules set to use (PFRPG vs. BRP rules) and the nuances involved in the game system of choice. The polls will stay open until September 4, 2009, but to vote and have a say you have to sign up.

So, come check us out!

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

*bump*

You still have until September 4 to get involved as a patron and vote on the rules system used for this project!


Thanks for the invite, but I am not a fan of Cthulu.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

neceros wrote:
Thanks for the invite, but I am not a fan of Cthulu.

Fair enough, but thanks for checking us out!

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

This is shaping up to be an awesome project dripping with mythos-flavored horrors spaced throughout five different time periods here on Earth. I got to know Joshua here on these very boards and later on past Open Design projects. His stuff blows me away. Truly inspired. (…by what, I’m not willing to fathom.)

Right now we’re voting on what system to use for the anthology and now is the time to have people sign up to push this project through and make some decisions. I may sound like a shill, but I’m really interested to see some other fantastic minds shape this project.

Spoiler:
I’ve seen a couple of posts on other messageboards showing reluctance to sign up not knowing what the system would end up being for this project. If I am correct, when an Open Design project is up for patronage and a decision like this is up to the patrons before the project is fully commissioned, a patron can withdraw his commission if the project doesn’t suit their preferred system. Correct me if I’m wrong, I knew that was true last project.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

You're absolutely right Daigle - if someone isn't happy with the rules set used, they can withdraw or even flip their patronage over to one of the other two projects currently being commissioned for Open Design.


The "Cthulhu through the ages" angle is a neat one -- it reminds me a lot of Eternal Darkness, which is not a bad thing in the slightest :). If I wasn't a starving artsy type, I'd be all over this ...


If the winds of fortune blow once more in a favorable direction, I will definitely take a close triclopean look at this project!

Mmmmm ... Clawchewloo ... ^_^


Hmmm, I do believe I like...

Contributor

Holy Shit!

First off! I'm so pleased as punch at all the love Cthulhu is getting.

More importantly - that Joshua Stevens is sexing up our favorite tentacled horror!

I'm in. I'm signing up for this Open Design now. I know Josh's work as a Werecabbage (yes, he is one of us, look out) - and I can say he's a phenomenal designer with a taste for twisted horror that is just up my alley.

The fact that its Pathfinder Compatible is just extra gravy-sauce on top!

I can't wait to see what you cook up for us Josh! I already love the promo write up!

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Glad to have you aboard Nick!

Oh, the twisted shit we have coming down the pike . . .

Sovereign Court

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Eyebite wrote:

Glad to have you aboard Nick!

Oh, the twisted s!~~ we have coming down the pike . . .

PG13, R, or NC17 twisted?

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

DitheringFool wrote:
Eyebite wrote:

Glad to have you aboard Nick!

Oh, the twisted s!~~ we have coming down the pike . . .

PG13, R, or NC17 twisted?

Well, if you think of the patrons as the MPAA handing out a movie rating - whatever they'll let me get away with. :)

Liberty's Edge

Is there room to consider dropping "hp bloat" of D&D like games? Chaosium's "hp light" approach far more suited the Cthulhu games. A gun should have a good chance of killing you 1st or 20th level.

If so I'm keen as custard...

S.

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

We are discussing ways to keep the feel right while still giving everyone what they want. There's a vote on what system to use currently going on o determine that, and things like what you mention are certainly at the front of that discussion.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Ditto what Daigle said.

Patrons are currently voting on whether to use BRP, PFRPG rules, or some combination thereof on the project.

The poll stays open until Friday, September 4 - so join now and cast your vote!

Contributor

One of the coolest aspects of Open Design is that YOU the patrons decide what YOU want. It rocks. Dithering and Stefan - if you join up, your voice matters and you can decide the design path Josh takes with his twisted madness.

If you've never done an Open Design, I highly recommend it. Talk to Watcher, he's a big fan of the format and extolls its virtues very well.

::summons Watcher!::


So, uh, Joshua.... got any artists in mind?

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

James Keegan wrote:
So, uh, Joshua.... got any artists in mind?

A couple - one of whom happens to be this James Keegan cat, who has worked with Open Design before with great results.

Know him? :)

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

Well, shit. If the Keegs is gonna be on board, I'm buying two!

Contributor

Eyebite wrote:
James Keegan wrote:
So, uh, Joshua.... got any artists in mind?

A couple - one of whom happens to be this James Keegan cat, who has worked with Open Design before with great results.

Know him? :)

Awwwwwww yeah! Keegan's work for Blood of the Gorgon was TOP NOTCH! Good choice!

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Update: Red Eye has met the 50% commission mark!

Hurry and sign up for this project now, and cast your vote regarding the rules set to be used for this anthology. The poll closes tomorrow on Friday, so time is running out!

Scarab Sages

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

i so want to join this, but want to sign up as a senior. maybe I'll do regular and upgrade...

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Mactaka wrote:
i so want to join this, but want to sign up as a senior. maybe I'll do regular and upgrade...

Come on in! We'd love to have you come aboard - and you can always upgrade your patronage later if you want.


Wish you the best of luck with the endeavour.

Whilst I do love the setting I already think the Chaosium system (which we play our Cthulhu with) hits the mark in the ways it needs to. Its definitely not meant to be a challenge rating game.

When they released D20 Cthulhu it missed the mark for me on so many points, as said earlier, HP bloat and other bits took away from it.

Saying that if there is good source in there nothing stopping it being used in other systems :)


Eyebite wrote:
Right now, patrons are voting on the rules set to use (PFRPG vs. BRP rules)

Er... what's BRP?


Dogbert wrote:
Eyebite wrote:
Right now, patrons are voting on the rules set to use (PFRPG vs. BRP rules)
Er... what's BRP?

Chaosium's Basic Role Playing: here

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

And . . . as of right now - we're tied! BRP and PFRPG using NPC classes are evenly tied.

Which system will be chosen?

Become a patron now, as your vote could very much decide the issue!

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Since the project is SO closely tied, and this decision is too important to make based on one or two votes, the voting deadline has been extended to September 23.

As it stands now, PFRPG rules using NPCs is ahead by only a single vote.

Grand Lodge

I was under the impression that Chaosium is the only company able to print Chthulu game material.

Liberty's Edge

Krome wrote:
I was under the impression that Chaosium is the only company able to print Chthulu game material.

I just checked out this threadbecause your post made me curious about that, Krome and supposedly it is OK to use Cthulhu material as long as Chaosium owned things are not used:

Thread mentioning Chaoisum issue

I guess there is also some dispute over the Copyright of HP Lovecraft's works in general:

Scroll to near bottom of Wiki article for info

I am a fan of Lovecraft's works and have read just about everything he wrote.
This supplement would be a cool addition to PFRPG if it can be done.

Whatever the legalities are, I am glad I am not the one to have to worry hehe

Contributor

Chaosium has a fairly easy and simple right-to-use agreement with publishers, and rights are easy to secure. In fact, they encourage 3rd party publication, and a dozen or so companies, such as Pagan, Sixtystone, Black Seal, Miskatonic River Press, etc publish CoC regularly.

And Wolfgang knows those folks, so if the project goes BRP, this won't be an issue. One of those publisher things...

B.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Fleece66 wrote:

Chaosium has a fairly easy and simple right-to-use agreement with publishers, and rights are easy to secure. In fact, they encourage 3rd party publication, and a dozen or so companies, such as Pagan, Sixtystone, Black Seal, Miskatonic River Press, etc publish CoC regularly.

And Wolfgang knows those folks, so if the project goes BRP, this won't be an issue. One of those publisher things...

B.

Brandon, as ever, has hit the nail on the head.

First, we have to decide on a rules set to use.

Second, if the patrons decide to go BRP (or "traditional" Call of Cthulhu), then we'll do what we need to do to make sure the project is legit.

Ultimately, it's all about spreading the excitement of Lovecraft's work (and others who have lovingly expanded upon the Mythos) and CoC style gaming, while adding our own footnote to the milieu.

If you're interested, the project is already shaping up into something I'm *very* excited to be a part of. We have a very talented group of passionate patrons who have an excellent feel for CoC gaming, and I'm quite pleased with the direction the project is heading.

Grand Lodge

I am EXTREMELY interested and EXTREMELY broke at the minute... otherwise I'd subscribe in a heartbeat!

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Krome wrote:
I am EXTREMELY interested and EXTREMELY broke at the minute... otherwise I'd subscribe in a heartbeat!

Same here. I hope Pathfinder comes out on top!

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

That's why you guys should get involved and vote.

BRP has come from behind to take a 2 vote lead!

The two of you could literally tie it up.

Sovereign Court

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

...so is this Pathfinder?

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

DitheringFool wrote:
...so is this Pathfinder?

The vote has been extended to September 23, as to the rules set to be used.

As it stands, BRP rules (aka traditional Call of Cthulhu rules) are ahead of PFRPG in the voting by 4 votes.

If you're a pathfinder fan, join now and cast your vote!

(Or, if you're a BRP fan, join and vote and make sure BRP stays in the lead.)

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

BRP rules have pulled ahead of PFRPG rules by a commanding lead of 5 votes!

If you're a PFRPG fan and want to become a patron for this product, sign up now and vote!

If you're a traditionalist when it comes to Call of Cthulhu adventures, sign up and make sure that BRP's lead is cemented.

Dark Archive

Blood-red comets lighting the night sky ...Evil Denizens summoning an Elder God best left aslumber ... Seers driven so mad by their visions that they remove their own eyelids ... Heroes fighting a millenium-long battle to save an unknowing planet from the Red Eye ...

The best part - you get to decide the rest. The project is still looking for patrons, who get to decide the rule system, fill in the details of the evil threat, and contribute to the adventures themselves. Join early and ensure that the adventure is the one you've always wanted to run.

Sign up soon!


Yeah come on in and join the fun that is Open Design. Chtulu-esque stuff, throughout the ages, reincarnating PCs (probably, YOU help decide!)

And then you can join me and vote to use PfRPG NPC rules :)

Liberty's Edge

Love Pathfinder. Love Call of Cthulhu. I run both systems and they are without doubt my two favorite RPG systems. Unfortunately the two don't mix. One is a combat orientated game the other is investigative.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

voorhees wrote:
Love Pathfinder. Love Call of Cthulhu. I run both systems and they are without doubt my two favorite RPG systems. Unfortunately the two don't mix. One is a combat orientated game the other is investigative.

. . . So come vote for the system you prefer, after joining as a patron. :)

There is a middling option we have offered - PFRPG rules where the players only use NPCs for characters, to approximate the relative power levels of investigators in CoC gaming.

Regardless of the rules set, there will be mysteries aplenty to solve.

BRP rules are currently in the lead. The poll closes September 23.


That is another reason why this is such an interesting project if (as I hope) PfRPG NPCs get s the go ahead, how are we going to make it CoC-esque with that level of power...mmmm. reincarnation will cut their levels low at least :)

But it looks (unless some guys here join me) to be going BRP, so it may be a moot point

Shadow Lodge

BRP all the way. Love Pathfinder, but a level-based system is completely ill-suited for Cthulhu.

The Exchange Kobold Press

The patrons seem to agree; the Pathfinder supporters are all in the From Shore to Sea project, and this Azathoth project is going BRP, from the look of it.

Dark Archive

Kthulhu wrote:
BRP all the way. Love Pathfinder, but a level-based system is completely ill-suited for Cthulhu.

Normally I'd agree, but I think this project might be an exception. Because it spans five adventures over a millenium, we have a chance to remove the expectation of levelling-up over the course of the arc (by reincarnation or some other mechanism). So I'm not sure there will be the same dissonant feeling of "We're getting better at fighting the Mythos!" that level-based systems can cause.

Though as Wolfgang points out, at the moment it's a moot point.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

One day left!

If you love PFRPG and want to see it as the rules set used for the project, join today and cast your vote!

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