
Blackerose |

A thoroughly enjoyable read, with strong illustrations and layout. Many of the races I would happily drop into my campaign world.
I've got some questions that I would love to ask the designers - is this a good forum to do that? I can't seem to access Alluria's own website at the momment.
Fire away..if nothing else I can send him an E-mail to let him know he has questions

IronDesk |

Great! First question then:
I loved the Entobians, but I don't understand the decision to keep them small after the various metamorphosis feats. Why keep them at size small?
That said, is the Matron feat really worth the wait until lvl 15? By then the spell-like abilities you gain are pretty minor. You've already played through 3/4 of the character's career as a small critter - I can't see the benefits you gain from the size increase and shifting a couple ability scores around being worth the wait ( and the loss of HP since your losing Prep for Metamorp..)

Emberion |
A thoroughly enjoyable read, with strong illustrations and layout. Many of the races I would happily drop into my campaign world.
I've got some questions that I would love to ask the designers - is this a good forum to do that? I can't seem to access Alluria's own website at the momment.
Sure, and you can also email me (J. Matthew Kubisz) at questions@alluriapublishing.com. Sorry about the site being down: I was told that there was some server issues recently.
Glad you enjoy the product!

Emberion |
Great! First question then:
I loved the Entobians, but I don't understand the decision to keep them small after the various metamorphosis feats. Why keep them at size small?
That said, is the Matron feat really worth the wait until lvl 15? By then the spell-like abilities you gain are pretty minor. You've already played through 3/4 of the character's career as a small critter - I can't see the benefits you gain from the size increase and shifting a couple ability scores around being worth the wait ( and the loss of HP since your losing Prep for Metamorp..)
On the design front, we have to battle many sides and campaign styles. Eventually, we make decisions based both on the input and the original concept. When we did the checks and balances for the metamorphosis, going to size medium both unbalanced the feat, and went outside the design concept. The matron feat provides two things that the others dont: 1. Size medium, and 2. Complete customization. While the former may be relatively minor, the latter should not be underestimated.
While the metamorphosis feats do some pretty cool things, they are just feats, and they can be boiled down to two feats in one: one heroic and one paragon...or in the case of Matron, one paragon and one epic. That was the template we used, and that worked best in playtesting.

Emberion |
Emberion wrote:Whats the 411 on this?DarkWhite wrote:This looks interesting! Is there any hope of a print release of this product?Yes, we are currently working on this project.
This will likely be released this summer. Our distributer and our printer are delaying things considerably and without schedule. We will release updates when they become available.

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IronDesk wrote:Fire away..if nothing else I can send him an E-mail to let him know he has questionsA thoroughly enjoyable read, with strong illustrations and layout. Many of the races I would happily drop into my campaign world.
I've got some questions that I would love to ask the designers - is this a good forum to do that? I can't seem to access Alluria's own website at the momment.
I'd also like to know if the designers would like to post some of their content on d20pfsrd.com as examples of the sort of content to be found in their books etc. We are working with Jon Brazer Enterprises to do that for them now, as well as doing the same for Spes Magna Games. If the designers would like to do something like this just have them shoot me an email at jreyst@gmail.com.

Joseph Le May |
Go ahead and ask away. Not sure how frequent the author makes his rounds. I know I own it, but I haven't done much with it beyond skimming it (at the moment). Not as convenient to read from a PDF as it is with a good book and a couch. :D
I agree. I'll get a copy when it comes out in print.

Endzeitgeist |

I just saw the Creepy Creatures file on rpgnow and wanted to ask, whether anyone has had experiences with the book?
I love horror-critters, but I'm not sure where the focus of the book lies and while I can see the appeal of the races here, they are not made for me. I like my fantasy mostly human-centric.
Cheers,
Endzeitgeist

Blackerose |

I just saw the Creepy Creatures file on rpgnow and wanted to ask, whether anyone has had experiences with the book?
I love horror-critters, but I'm not sure where the focus of the book lies and while I can see the appeal of the races here, they are not made for me. I like my fantasy mostly human-centric.
Cheers,
Endzeitgeist
There are a few monsters in the new book that tie into the races, but it is also a stand alone, just like any other book of monsters. Someone that didn't have the Races book would be able to use CC freely

Emberion |
Well it's the new year and still no print edition as promised. Doesn't make me particularly confident that Cerulean Seas will see print when promised. :(
Actually, Cerulean Seas will make it to print on schedule. Remarkable Races 4E is already in print. Print priority is based on sales, and unfortunately and despite being an excellent book with phenomenal reviews, Remarkable Races Pathfinder has fallen very short of predicted sales...thus the print version was passed down the line. On a good note, Remarkable Races Pathfinder will find its way to print this spring and Cerulean Seas has already surpassed predicted sales in the first month.
Again, we apologize for the delay on the Remarkable Races Pathfinder print edition, but it is on the way soon!

Andrew Bigwood |
Actually, Cerulean Seas will make it to print on schedule. Remarkable Races 4E is already in print. Print priority is based on sales, and unfortunately and despite being an excellent book with phenomenal reviews, Remarkable Races Pathfinder has fallen very short of predicted sales...thus the print version was passed down the line. On a good note, Remarkable Races Pathfinder will find its way to print this spring and Cerulean Seas has already surpassed predicted sales in the first month.Again, we apologize for the delay on the Remarkable Races Pathfinder print edition, but it is on the way soon!
It actually doesn't surprise me that sales of this weren't as good as expected. By the time the compendium came out people had already bought all of the individual races in PDF. I know that many gamers down here loved the remarkable races line and WANT the compendium but don't want to get another PDF they already own (yes I know there is some extra stuff but not enough to justify purchasing a product twice). A lot of people want a print version to augment their PDFs hence the poor PDF sales.
Don't get me wrong I think this line is sensational, some of the best third party Pathfinder stuff to date, a print copy would make it more viable a purchase for a lot of gamers who already own the collection as it were.

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I completely agree that the reason for the poor PDF sales is because everyone who wants this wants it in print, I know I do. I personally prefer larger books in print over PDF as it is easier to navigate with my hand than a mouse.
But yeah, I know I will be getting this plus Creepy Creatures, Cerulean Seas, and Fey Folio if they come out in print. They look really interesting and well thought out.

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I completely agree that the reason for the poor PDF sales is because everyone who wants this wants it in print, I know I do. I personally prefer larger books in print over PDF as it is easier to navigate with my hand than a mouse.
But yeah, I know I will be getting this plus Creepy Creatures, Cerulean Seas, and Fey Folio if they come out in print. They look really interesting and well thought out.
Well for me it is mostly the price. i just can't bring myself to pay 26 bucks for a PDF. Not saying it is not worth the money, just I am old school enough that i have a hard time paying that much for something I can't touch or feel. If it was 15 i would pick it up for sure, 20 is typically my upper limit on PDF's. Though i have liked a lot of Alluria's stuff so far, so hopefully they offer a print/PDF combo in the near future. I would drop more for a combo.

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If this were available in print, I would be ordering it right now!!!
I'm just old school and prefer my books to be in hand. I hope this book will be in Dead Tree format soon.
The 4e version is in print as is several other of their books. I imagine the PFRPG version will be in print soon.

Brutorz Bill |

Brutorz Bill wrote:The 4e version is in print as is several other of their books. I imagine the PFRPG version will be in print soon.If this were available in print, I would be ordering it right now!!!
I'm just old school and prefer my books to be in hand. I hope this book will be in Dead Tree format soon.
Hello Dark Mistress, guess I should have clarified earlier... I meant if the Pathfinder version were in print I'd be ordering it right now. : ) I ordered the print version of Creepy Creatures: Bestiary of the Bizarre to tide me over in the meantime.
Thanks,Bill

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Dark_Mistress wrote:Brutorz Bill wrote:The 4e version is in print as is several other of their books. I imagine the PFRPG version will be in print soon.If this were available in print, I would be ordering it right now!!!
I'm just old school and prefer my books to be in hand. I hope this book will be in Dead Tree format soon.Hello Dark Mistress, guess I should have clarified earlier... I meant if the Pathfinder version were in print I'd be ordering it right now. : ) I ordered the print version of Creepy Creatures: Bestiary of the Bizarre to tide me over in the meantime.
Thanks,
Bill
Yeah i knew what you meant. I was only pointing out that if the 4e version is already up for print. I can't imagine the PFRPG version being to far away.

FenrysStar |

When this Pathfinder version is available in print I'll grab it. Cerulean seas has enough good stuff that it's not a complete waste of money even if never intend to use half the book. Creepy Creatures was just wonderful. Now I need this one so I can see write ups for some of the races mentioned in Creepy Creatures that I want to see and maybe offer when I run games.

Andrew Bigwood |
Well believe it or not, here we are over 12 months since the print version is 'coming soon' and I'm still waiting. I still want this in print. Is there ANY chance of this actually happening? My money is going elsewhere. Just got the print copy of Noble Wild with end of year bonus money (amongst other things). That would have been Alluria's too. :(