Dragon Issue #337

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Demonomicon of Iggwilv: Zuggtmoy
by James Jacobs
Released from the dungeons of the Temple of Elemental Evil, Zuggtmoy dreams of spreading her fungoid presence across the planes. Learn the terrible secrets of the demon lady of slimes and fungi.

Lords of Dust
by Keith Baker
Scheming through the centuries, these rakshasas and even greater fiends seek to free their masters bound deep below the surface of Eberron. Get drawn into their world-spanning web of lies and plots.

Monsters of the Mind
by Kevin Baase, Eric Jansing, and Oliver Frank
Five horrible monsters that prey on your thoughts. Revisit old classics like the ustilagor and explore new horrors like the brainstealer dragon.

Plus!
The Ecology of the Shadar-Kai, Class Acts, Bazaar of the Bizarre, First Watch, Scale Mail, Sage Advice, Wormfood, and comics.

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Woo-hoo!

*****

After waiting for a long while to get this issue, I was happy to se that it was worth the wait. This is truly the best issue of Dragon EVAR!

-Monsters of the Mind-
A work of sheer beauty! This masterpiece of mind-flaying monsters makes me want to traipse down into the Underdark, find some and use them to beat down on my PCs!
PERSONAL FAVORITE: Brainstealer Dragon

-Demonomicon of Iggwilv: Zuggtmoy-
Another great article! I love the Demonomicon, and this article was everything it needs to be. New spells, plenty of new monsters, a prestige class, and hallucinating rules among other things.
PERSONAL FAVORITE: Hallucination Rules

-Lords of Dust-
As an Eberron fan, I was looking forward to this, and I was not dissapointed. Great cover of some of Eberron's most fearsome evils.
PERSONAL FAVORITE: Sul Khatesh

-Other Articles of Interest-
The Ecology of the Shadar-Kai was pretty darn cool. I also liked the Bazaar of the Bizzare. The face paint idea was unique and awesome!

-Drow Outpost-
I love this miniature map! This is perfect for so many games, and for DDM skirmishes. I already have 10 possible encounters set up for it and counting.

Great issue. Just a great, great issue. :)


Where is it?

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This is the second month in a row that it shows up on News Stands before I get my copy that supposedly shipped 20 days before appearing in news stands. Love the magazine but really getting tired of the wait.
PS The wait might not be so bad if there was an explanation


Great Issue!

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As an Eberron DM of Age of Worms and a DDM fan this issue is a valuable resource.

The Good:

Drow Outpost - Haven't picked up Fantastic Locations yet, so this is my first DDM legal map. This will definately find a use in my game, and I've already heard buzz about it on the boards.

Monsters of the Mind - Excellent. I will use all of these monsters at some point. Brainstealer dragon is the best of both worlds. The article also includes placement suggestions and hooks for Eberron.

Lords of Dust - Great work. Looking forward to seeing more from Keith Baker in Dragon.

The Not-So-Good:

Ecology of Shadar-Kai - Not too much to complain about, but I didn't see suggestions for Eberron use. I also wish they reprinted the stats from Fiend Folio in 3.5 format.

Class Acts - Again, many of these articles seemed more like filler.


Very good!!

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While I don't play Eberron, the Lords of Dust article was fascinating. I especially liked the ecology of the Shadar-Kai. There were few weak points in this magazine, and I'm always a sucker for a good miniatures scale battle mat...the Drow Outpost is an excellent added value. Great job, Paizo.



Why does everything female now a days have to look like this pic of Zuggtmoy? Can the artists of modern Fantasy RPGs only think about Breasts and Spikes? That isn't Zuggtmoy. She looks like this;
http://www.gamebanshee.com/templeofelementalevil/monsters/zuggtmoy.php


I better not show you my special file sexxxyjuiblex.jpg, then.

Sovereign Court

Now adays? This cover is 5 years old?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Because boobs sell more magazines than fat ET.


I don't know about the rest of you, but I myself am a fan of breasts (my wife's in particular, however I enjoy most of those I see on women.)


When I got this issue, I remember thinking, "Who/what is that?"; and I immediately looked for the Zuggtmoy article only to find she was the cover.
Nothing previously published even hinted that "mushroom girl" wasn't her true form.

It seems her appearance was changed for the sake of change with no real reasoning behind it. IMO, that happened way too often in the offices of the IP holder.

It's one of the reasons I've moved on to other games by other companies.

Silver Crusade

Meh. I like Pretty Zuggtmoy.

More than Malcanthet and Nocticula to be honest.

(not a mycophile)

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Maps, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber
Mikaze wrote:

Meh. I like Pretty Zuggtmoy.

More than Malcanthet and Nocticula to be honest.

(not a mycophile)

There's a nasty joke about yeast infections in here somewhere, but I'm not making it.

Scarab Sages

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:
Because boobs sell more magazines than fat ET.

DUDE! You made me spit Almond Joy and Coke at my monitor!

hehehe

Paizo Employee Creative Director

George.Fields wrote:

When I got this issue, I remember thinking, "Who/what is that?"; and I immediately looked for the Zuggtmoy article only to find she was the cover.

Nothing previously published even hinted that "mushroom girl" wasn't her true form.

It seems her appearance was changed for the sake of change with no real reasoning behind it. IMO, that happened way too often in the offices of the IP holder.

It's one of the reasons I've moved on to other games by other companies.

Actually, the REAL reason for the change was because this new look for Zuggtmoy was the one created by Troika Games for the videogame version of "Temple of Elemental Evil." Part of our job when we were doing the magazines was not only to support WotC, but to support WotC licenses... like the aforementioned game. So there WAS reasoning behind it.

And personally, as huge a fan as I am for nostalgia and the game's history, I like the new version of Zuggtmoy more than the older one anyway.


James Jacobs wrote:

Actually, the REAL reason for the change was because this new look for Zuggtmoy was the one created by Troika Games for the videogame version of "Temple of Elemental Evil." Part of our job when we were doing the magazines was not only to support WotC, but to support WotC licenses... like the aforementioned game. So there WAS reasoning behind it.

And personally, as huge a fan as I am for nostalgia and the game's history, I like the new version of Zuggtmoy more than the older one anyway.

Having never played the video game, I was not aware of this.

Of course, this leads me to the question: Why did THEY change it?

Liberty's Edge

Paizo Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Tales Subscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
George.Fields wrote:

Having never played the video game, I was not aware of this.

Of course, this leads me to the question: Why did THEY change it?

This

James Jacobs wrote:
Because boobs sell more magazines than fat ET.

But Change Magazines to Video Games

Paizo Employee Creative Director

George.Fields wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Actually, the REAL reason for the change was because this new look for Zuggtmoy was the one created by Troika Games for the videogame version of "Temple of Elemental Evil." Part of our job when we were doing the magazines was not only to support WotC, but to support WotC licenses... like the aforementioned game. So there WAS reasoning behind it.

And personally, as huge a fan as I am for nostalgia and the game's history, I like the new version of Zuggtmoy more than the older one anyway.

Having never played the video game, I was not aware of this.

Of course, this leads me to the question: Why did THEY change it?

Possibly because they felt that the "Fat ET" version of Zuggtmoy was underwhelming and not that scary and kind of silly looking. That's why I would have changed it, in any case.

Sometimes new is better than old.

ALSO

Part of what makes art ART is that not everyone will like any one particular piece of art.


James Jacobs wrote:

Possibly because they felt that the "Fat ET" version of Zuggtmoy was underwhelming and not that scary and kind of silly looking. That's why I would have changed it, in any case.

Sometimes new is better than old.

ALSO

Part of what makes art ART is that not everyone will like any one particular piece of art.

I love the art itself - it's spectacular.

This is where the video game age fails in my opinion. Everything has to look cool or awesome to be considered good.
Zuggtmoy wasn't scary looking. She looked a bit silly because that's what she looks like. A few evil facial expressions would have done wonders without actually changing her appearance.

In Child's Play, Chucky didn't look scary at all until he got ticked off and started making facial expressions.

Not trying to troll here - just enjoying a good debate about one of my favorite adventures. :)

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