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I love it that Paizo made up it's mind and still gave Al-mi'raj a go, now for the Drop Bear and Akaname, two other creatures that were on the not-to-do list, i'm sure they appear now after seeing how popular the Al-mi'raj is on facebook.
Drop Bears (if done right) will have the same effect on people, a joke becoming a fierce and evil creature = a ++ situation ya know.
And Russ Taylor you tease! I can't wait to find out which ones that are! Very cool news!
And the Al-mi'Raj art is cool, reminds me off the VOrpal Bunny from Quest for Glory 4, I still hope the creature is larger than a normal bunny (dog size) like in the real Arab myths, but at least its not like the cute Blink Bunny from D&D/TOH. Good Work.
A creature with an aura that brings back old wounds and re-opens scars.
If you stay in the aura long enough you will get back all the wounds/cuts/guts you had in life, young creatures that suffered few wounds in their life aren't hurt that much but old creatures like Elves and Dwarves are pretty fragile in this aura as all wounds they ever had re-open on their bodies with a shocking rate.
When I still made proposals for the Heroes of Might and Magic Games I gave this aura to the Black Unicorn called Ecalypse as the White Unicorn is a healer and heals all scars and wounds the Black Unicorn re-opens them with its aura or horn.
I don't like the word Black Unicorn so I rather have them use the Shadhavar from legends, a evil flesh eating Unicorn (mostly also black in color) that uses sound with its hollow horn to enchant their prey, instead the Pathfinder Shadhavar could re-open the scars/wounds/guts and cuts with its sound attacks.
This far 8 down 99 to go. :-D
Hope to see many of them go bold when this bestiary is released into the world :P
Abaasy - Abaia - Acheri - Adze (Firefly Heat Vampire) - Afanc (Beaver/Croc) - Ahkiyyini - Aitvaras - Akaname (Filth Licker) - Akki (Goblin Oni) - Alastor (Living Weapon Monster) - Alicanto (Metal Eating Eagle) - Al-mi'raj - Ammit - Antaeus (Earth Troll) - Argus - Arrowhawk - Asag (Rock Demon) - Assassin Bug - Barbegazi - Batibat - Bauk (Shadow Boogeyman) - Blemmyes - Bloody Bones - Blue Tiger - Buggane - Cactus Cat - Cadejo - Campe (Wyvern/Woman Centauric) - Cercopes (Winged Monkey Twins) - Cherufe - Chesire Cat - Chrysaor (Hell Boar) - Cipactli - Clurichaun (Evil Leprechaun) - Crown of Thorns (Aberration) - Deathwatch Beetle - Digester (Ooze Eater) - Djieien (Solifugid) - Drop Bear - Echeneis - Echidna - Einherjar - Empusa (Mantis Centaur) - Enenra (Smoke Demon) - Fetch (Mirror Version) - Firbolg - Fomorian - Formian - Fossegrim - Gaasyendietha (Meteor Dragon) - Gaki (Greed Spirit) - Gancanagh - Goat Rider - Gold-Digging Ant - Grendel - Harionna - Heikegani (Samurai Crabman) - Ichneumon (Dragon Eater Wasp) - Ikuchi (Oil/Tar Sea Serpent) - Itzpapalotl (Skeleton Butterfly) - Jack-in-Irons - Jubokko (Vampire Tree) - Kamaitachi (Sickle Weasel) - Karkadann (Desert Unicorn) - Kaw Kaw - Kikimora - Kumiho (9-tailed Silver Fox) - Ladon (Plant Dragon) - Lavellan - Leanan Sidhe - Leshy, Cactus - Lou Carcolh - Magnetic Creature - Mahaha - Mercury Ooze - Namazu - Nekomata (Catfolk Oni) - Nightgaunt - Omukade (Centipede Demon or Oni) - Phane - Piasa - Procoptodon (Giant Kangaroo) - Pyrausta (Insect Dragon) - Rarog - Rat King (Rat Mutant or Alien) - Ravid (Evolved) - Rompo (Boneyard from D&D) - Sandwalker - Shadhavar (Black Unicorn) - Shellycoat - Sianach - Sirrush (Merging Together Trio Souls) - Strigoi (Blood Vampire) - Symplegades (Twin Rock Golems) - Tanystropheus - Teumessian Fox - Therizinosaurus - Tikbalang - Tiyanak - Tooth Fairy - Tsemaus (Sand Shark) - Valravn - Vila (Storm Nymph) - Wild Hunt - Wizard Shackle (Giant Magical Leech) - Yale - Yara-ma-yha-who
Well they did say that Shattered Star is the stopping point for APs that they will be getting monsters from so there is a chance.
Also the Snallygaster is a immense popular creature, almost on the level of how Wolverine is loved in the Marvel World.
So there will be an extremly big chance they choose that creature as one of the AP monsters which make it into the Bestiary 4.
There have been wishes (probably not serious I hope so) for a gigantic pegasus... but what about the twin brother of Pegasus nobody seems to care or know about?
When Medusa was slain in greek mythology from her blood two brothers grew, one of them was the peacefull, overused winged horse called Pegasus, the other grewing from her blood was the hatefull and less popular Chrysaor.
While in greek mythology Chrysaor mainly appeared as a winged boar or as boarish humanoid holding a flaming whip much like the Balrog from Tolkien, In pathfinder I hope they do something new with the creature, turning it into a demonic boar monster with bright red, hairless skin and enormous twisted and sharp tusks, it would be a monster like the Bebilith, no real demon itself, but a beast that preys on demons and other foolish creatures that are lost in the Demonic realms.
The most awesome and nasty ability it holds would come from the myth of how it was born itself (from medusa's blood) as when the Chrysaor gets wounded in battle its blood (when falling on soil or dirt) will spawn swarms of demonic scorpions the size of a fist, so fighting the creature proves difficult as if you wound or kill it you are against an entire swarm of demonic, mindless vermin that are extremly hungry from the moment they are spawn/born from the boiling blood of the Chrysaor.
The Chrysaors drool also spawns dangerous vine-like plants which are bright red with black thorns on it, they are extremly poisonous and animate if they sense blood nearby. If the creature bites you these same thorny vines start growing from the wounds and strangle you.
I think making Chrysaor a humanoid would spoil the creature as there are more then enough humanoids and there are only a handfull boar creatures, and none of them are magical or outsiders.
CR: Around 11/12
Another cool creature would be the goblinoid Oni called Akki.
The Akki appears as a red hot Goblin-like Oni with a lava-like bulb on its back boiling with lava or magma.
Argus? I haven't seen that mentioned elsewhere. Maybe that is one of the incorrect parts.
Argus is mentioned with Pickled Punks and Einherjar in the other topic about Bestiary 4, they are mentioned as creatures from real world mythology and folklore. They are in the list.
I think the error maybe is Pazuzu (I sure hope not, if I like one demon lord its pazuzu), or the error could be what I said about the formians, that they are 100% copies of the D&D monster manual, but maybe they are new variants as well, or maybe the Gremlin thing that we don't see recycled and film-based gremlins.
Or maybe something has changed in the meantime, just like the Bodysnatcher is renamed Bodythief.
and it was confirmed that the thing on the cover is Grendel
Cool, so I was right all a long. I love how it looks!
Also what did the artwork of the Al-mi'raj look like Enlight_Bystand? Was it cool was is not really? What colour did its fur have? Green like D&D or more traditional Yellow like in the real myth? Just curious :p
Well if there are mistakes in my list they are hopefully not about:
I really like and want these creatures (which are in the given lists so far), the others I don't really know much about or others aren't my favorites so if the errors are there I wouldn't notice in the final product.
And if the Karkinoi is what I think it is then I really like Karkinoi too.
Well that means some creatures are cut or your talking about the sub-list (which were guesses) or about the 3 before juggernout or something I put behind formian/gremlin/Psychopomps or anything cuz I just took all creatures that were mentioned in both the bestiary 4 topics in the text or in James Jacobs question/answer thread and the catalog.
So i'm very curious why i'm incorrect about the main-list.
- Argus (mentioned in lists)
All the others aren't on the list and were assumptions so if you are talking about them, they were guesses because I saw few hints about them, but they aren't on the main list so they can be errors, but again i'm guessing you talking about the main list.
There are no creatures from the Inner Sea Bestiary in this bestiary so that Android, Lashunta, MOnkey Golbin,Syrinx and Ghoran (too bad, I really like the Ghoran)all aren't included.
The Kitsune is already confirmed as they showed its artwork somewhere.
I think Gillmen, Changeling and Strix are all in as well, not sure about the others, don't really know them, hope they are as awesome as the Poison Woman Race from Bestiary 3.
So far these creatures are known to appear in the Bestiary:
+ The strange monster with Fungal wings from the catalog, but that could be a monster that suits the already mentioned monsters of course...
Probably in it too, but not 100% sure, but with some questions I pretty much figured them out.
- many of the AP-Lovecraft critters like Bhole, Colour out of Space and Flying Polyp
Do I forget anything?
With so much talk about this (fill in any shooting weapon here) Shrimp creature, i'm 100% possitive it will find its way (shooting and all) in bestiary 5.
And dragon78, size doesn't make a creature dangerous, just look at the common house cow, big stupid and weak (well not weak in our world, but humans are pathetic, everything with a weapon or everything on Golarion would kill 10 cows with their eyes closed and one arm on their backs), a giant cumcumber would be even weaker than a cow as it has simply no defense or attack until you slash it and then its guts have to touch your eyes for the effect, and that is just one species of the creature. So if you want such creatures to work you could make them aberrations with strange powers or give them powers they lack in the real world, but Giant Sea Cumcumber or Giant Normal Starfish would probably be a food source more than a threat, of course there is the Dust Digger, but that extremly cool creature has no counterpart in the real human world, besides being based on that awesome critter from Starwars "Sarlacc" of course.
It is that I don't really care that much for 0HD races (I even wished many weren't 0 HD Races at all like Sylph, Oread and Kitsunes) but if I did I would probably disappointed as well...
But now we know all the 0 HD races in this book right as they are all reprints? Can somebody come up with the list of them?
Kitsune is one, the others? Gillmen?
That list sounds awesome!! Especially the Oolidrroo, Abrikandilu and Riftcreeper are awesome.
But another Succubus monster really? We have like 10 already? :-p
Also I wished the Locust demon lost his Scorpion tail, too much monsters have scorpion features I think a half locust and half human isn't done before...
What about Cannon Shrimp lol
A giant Starfish would be pretty much harmless, but if they created a aberration version of the cool Crown of Thorns then I would be really really happy.
The Crown of Thorns in the real world is a menace for the reefs and coral fields, eating through it with devastating speed and voracity, a enormous Aberration version of this creature that can travel on land would be the same to a small coastal village, instead of eating coral and shrimps they are eating the houses and nice morsels living inside of those stony appetizers.
As for giant Sea Cumcumbers, while most of these are also harmless, there is a species that when touched (and when you put your hand in your eyes) causes blindness. That would be cool for an aberration as well, but a normal giant Sea Cumcumber would be pretty hopeless even for low level characters, they would be more like the critters of Starcraft which don't attack you ;-)
The thing that bothers me is PISTOL the word, it doesn't suit the world of myths and legends in my opinion. Most people on Golarion shouldn't know what A pistol is, maybe only the ones that time travel and travel through space or who saw a Pale Stranger (which hopefully don't live on Golarion itself)
So the word Pistol would hopefully change, or the creature could be a native on a robot-infested, modern-time planet maybe :-D
And Gorbacz, that was a typo, if you type and think as chaotically fast as I do typo's become a common thing.
Why not just make Golarian based constalations out of the known monsters + adding some to fill off the gaps.
Aries - There are no ram/sheep based monsters yet, so maybe the Gold Horned Ram from Greek mythology would come in handy here. Chrysomallus
Taurus - Hadhayosh
Gemini - Adhukait or a new twin-based monster, really hope there is a twin linked creature in bestiary 4, or maybe a creature that has 2 seperate bodies but just one mind.
Cancer - Sharkeater Crab of any other large crab, maybe the new Karkinoi race.
Leo - Leonal or Sphinx
Virgo - Nymph
Libra - Maybe some neutral outsider that does bad to create good, like Maruts or something like that. Creature that keeps balance in things, Aeons?
Scorpio - Black Scorpion
Sagittarius - Baykok or Centaur
Capricorn - Satyr
Aquarius - Tirton, Undine or anything that is like those.
Pisces - Lukwata or another fish monster.
If they are balor they are cool with me, if they are Ahriman they aren't cool with me because of the fact that they are only one, not a whole group of monsters.
I like creatures till CR 20, higher and i'm not really that interested anymore, except for the Hekentoncheires, Jabberwock and some dragons.
I'm just not a big fan of unique creatures, I like groups and pupulation monsters better, i'm also not a big fan of huge and popular monsters and lords.
I do like unique and lords but not in regular monster manuals.
+ what dragon78 said, those big lords and uniques take up 2 pages each, and I rather see 300+ monsters in bestiary, I don't mind uniques in bestiaries of AP or Inner sea bestairies tho, but I do not fancy them in a normal bestiary.
To follow up Dragon78's question, does the Scarab (which I don't find to be a golarion specific creature all that much) ever has the chance to be in a normal bestiary?
The new Bodysnatcher plant monster isn't that much like the Moonflower? Or is it a very very different creature?
Are tooth Faeries evil or good in the bestiary? Or are there versions for both?
Are there many sea-based creatures in the bestiary?
Now that demon lords and other lords are in the bestiary, are there also creatures like Ahriman, Basileus and other such unique creatures in the bestiary 4?
Poludnica: CR 10 female fey powered by the sun. She kidnaps and lures farmers and children away to try and create normal families. At night they vanish into the ethereal plane, and can only watch families together at night with envy. She uses a scythe, but prefers trickery to achieve her ends. She has an aura of heat about her than can be quite debilitating.
Storm Hag: CR 7 hag with lightning and weather control powers. She prefers to eat young children and hates gnomes & halflings with a passion.
Too bad the Storm Hag is just another hag that bites the dust against the Night Hag... I want to see a hag that is above CR 10 for once, storm hag sounded powerful.
The sun woman sounds like Lady Midday (or whatever her name is) and sounds interesting, the others are not my thing.
I'd rather see those in their own manual.
Well pathfinder also used the TOH Kelpie in one of the AP before turning it into the horse creature in Bestiary 2 so I still hope Bloody Bones will end up very different from the TOH version which is only CR 4, while bloody bones is one of the worst boogeymen out there.
Bloody Skeleton is a better name for the Castlevania creatures, Bloody Bones is an entire different creature, a crawling, skinless (not boney)and legless creature crawling fort on its claws and arms, leaving a trail of blood while hunting for bad children and adults alike.
James Jacobs wrote:
That is really good news, especially if its about Afanc and Bloody Bones, I really don't like the D&D and TOH versions of those monsters! Glad they got another version if its about those, the others are fine in TOH, but a version more truthfull to the myth is a big + as well.
I really hope the answer to this is yes, as the Jack-in-Irons, Barbegazi, Afanc (altho not the fish but the beaver/croc), Bacchae, Bloody Bones, Cherufe, Fetch, Jack o Lantern, Phooka, Wizards's Shackle, and Asrai still need to be paizonized as they are from mythology, folklore and fantasy tales i'm sure they can end up in bestairy 4 or later.
But the answer must be YES, cuz the Al-mi'raj is in bestiary 4, and that is also in the Tome of Horrors!
I like big girls and I cannot lie.
Then you would really like the BATIBAT in a Pathfinder Bestiary. So go vote for her in the bestiary 5 wish topic, an enormous ugly, fat and evil dryad that destroys humans and other creatures that hurt her forest are so much more fun than pretty girl wood women that only flirt with their attackers.
I don't buy 33P marterial, there is enough to buy from Paizo itself already and money doesn't grow out of humans and trees.
So that's why I want 33P to focus more on Space, Robots and Modern Warfare AP's, Bestiaries and Books so that Paizo can continue with their Pirate, Demon, Snow and Pharaoh Ap's, and Ya'll have your Space AP's anyway.
You know what I mean, mostly if monsters from real mythology end up in 3PP and paizo likes them they won't reprint them in their original material anymore, only use them in AP's, much like what happend to Kikimora.
Come on third parties! Instead of making more bestiaries and using creatures from real mythology so Pathfinder doesn't use them anymore you should be making space AP"s and alien/realworld/robot bestiaries and modern technology-in-fantasy books!
That would be good money making for you third party compagnies.
Third Parties work your magic!
So, are there going to be traditional aliens with laser guns in this AP or Bestiary 4? I'd love to see Greys statted up.
I think the answer to your question is already been given by James somewhere above. There will be aliens, but if I understood it correctly they won't be of the laser kind, more of the aberration/outsider type.
Sean K Reynolds wrote:
So the nine-tailed variant is gonna end up with another name? Or is its totally ignored in the future?
Then if you wish for aliens next time, call them aberrations. As they should be called in D&D and Pathfinder products.
They are called aliens probably by the people living in golarion and in the overal world of the game.
And if you wish for the traditional aliens with laser guns call them Greys.
James Jacobs wrote:
I already thought so, Aliens = in most cases just aberrations. I really adore aberrations those are the alien types I prefer, clockworks and automatons are also cool.
When most people above hear ALIEN they think about technology and lasers, something that most fantasy aliens don't wield.
Is this gonna be regular in every AP? Aliens, Robots and Real-time Guns somewhere hidden in the AP's numbers?
I don't mind it in this case because alien simply means ABOLETH and WITCHWYRD, aliens doesn't have to mean technology and lasers, just creatures from another realm, and not all realms have technology I hope.
I really love sand-themes and I love mummies so its probably gonna end well, can't wait, but first the Demon AP I will love, which Technology, Aliens, Robots or real-time world stuff are gonna wind up in the demon ap?
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