Here is a strange question for you all, if I(or someone else) get this item's PDF early and list the monsters in the book on the site. Would you want them listed by CR, alphabetical order, or by creature type?
I just want them to put them on spoiler, cuz I don't want to spoil the entire list that early for myself, its more awesome to be suprised with every page you turn, I spoiled Bestiary 3 for myself, while I didn't know much about mythology and folkore creatures then (I didn't knew about Adaro, Baykok and others for example) now I know most creatures so the spoiler niveau would be much higher.
So please if that time comes, put them in the [/spoiler ]
With this new 250 monsters I'm 98% sure that Pathfinder beats D&D in the amount of monsters, only the 4th edition monsters is no match of course, but 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th edition combined will still not beat the HUGE amount of monsters in pathfinder, as every month we get new monsters while D&D has kinda stoppped making new creatures and re-uses its old ones over and over.
Just a silly fact.
There isn't a Rat King yet, but like the Namazu and some others Wesley said that the Rat King is on the list, so its probably in bestiary 4 or maybe it comes in a AP bestiary soon?
I do hope the Rat King would be a little bit more than just some normal rats that are merged together with their tails.
I hope they are intelligent alien rats that are merged together in horrid, distasteful ways.
Can't wait for this!
1: I wished all 7 sins would be put in for the Sinspawns, that would have been so awesome.
2: I really hope Tenebrous Worm has better artwork, this giant centipede artwork isn't even correct, the Tenebrous Worm should be more catterpiller like and be black and bristled not some red centipede.
Sad to see some creatures being left out:
Anyway can't wait to see which monsters got new artwork in this!
Like I said Fakefurcoats I really like it Huge or Gargantuan, I think gargantuan would be perfect for it.
The idea is that tiny and smaller creatures live on its back which is looking like some landscape, i've seen such creatures in many cartoons, stories, games and yes also at pokemon. I don't mind a colossal version with bigger creatures living on it, but at least also make a smaller version too.
The Land Wight would be the ideal animated landscape monster, as its an entire landscape animated when a powerful mortal dies a horrid death in nature and the entire landscape around it gets corrupted and controlled by the diseased person.
I think that was meant funny, but if you read any better you see I didn't say ISLAND, but LANDSCAPE, something different.
I don't think it's that more people are more easily offended. Instead, it's that courtesy, manners, and empathy have become much more rare.
Mostly thanks to the television, mobile phones, channels like MTV and Commercials that make beautiful people look like Gods and normal people look like non-important boring creeps, mostly if they use ugly or normal people they are meant for comical reasons...
Television is the biggest reason people changed, especially commercials and Jersey Shore-like shows which are non-stop on every channel these days, about antisocial people that rule and are "cool", just take a look at that horrid snookie.
People learn that its OK to scream at your boyfriend/husband or cheat on your friends because in those shows they do it as well...
I think the problem with this is that many children these days get poisoned by that horrid tv channel called MTV, on which every freaking person takes the word (you seem to hate so much) in his/her mouth like constantly.
And many people that use it are so young, they don't know anything about slaves and old times. (probably because they suffer bad classes or they don't care about school at all)
I dislike the chromatic and metallic dragons, I don't care for the asian dragons from bestiary 3, but ALL the dragons from bestiary 2 are among my favorite creatures! Happy to see Umbral and Magma dragons there!!! I hope to see Brine, Cloud and especially some Crystal Dragon as well! Crystal and Cloud dragons get much to less shine time.
In Holland many people use the word "racism" as a key to escape custody or bills from the police/cops, or even when they feel offended for the wrong reasons, like I saw a Arab guy scream out loud !racism! to a shop-owner for him being caught stealing some odor, easy to say racism if you are being caught by someone with another colour... but an entirly sneaky and wrong argument.
Me (being gay) are being offended much more than any of those other-coloured, other-raced people here in Holland at least, ironically mostly by the people that take racism in their mouth the most, namely Arab males and males from the Antilleans seem to have extreme hate towards gays here in holland.
Not really my intention, I don't want a colossal creature, I never liked this impossible big creatures as you can't make sprites/paper miniatures of those, so I want the landscape turtle to be a lot smaller than the one from neverending story.
The Luck Dragon from Neverending story would be fun as Guardian Dragon type, the guardian of all hope, luck and dreams. Just like Ladon would be the Guardian Dragon of nature and plants.
And Coral Capuchins are monkeys with wings so they are flying monkies afteral, they are just not the type you are looking for but saying they aren't flying monkeys is like saying a werewolf doesn't have teeth...
Forgot about the Clockwork Dragon haven we? :-P
I hope this bestiary is just like the previous 3 Winter Ap's full of cool creatures of ice, myth and strangeness, the next AP probably won't have them given its about humans and russia, and the last AP I hope returns to the ice, myth and strangeness theme.
We have a colossal whale with an island on its back called something like aspichidolone (I never remember that horrid name) but that's not what i'm after.
Of course there could be volcanic-landscapes (with even a small volcan on their back) and ice, desert, beach and tropic variants as well of these Landscape Turtles.
Flying Monkeys are there in the form of Coral Capuchins in one of the pirate AP's bestiaries.
I would like the greek Kerkopes (Twin thief monkeys killed by Hercule) to be the flying monkeys of Pathfinder, they are always born twins and if one of them dies the other goes berserk, they work together as master thieves, and of all races and monsters the Kerkopes are the most professional thieves, what they have their mind on they mostly get.
I used flying monkeys from Oz, the always-born-twin-monkeys (from a myth I can't remember) and the thieving Kerkopes from greek mythology and merged them into one monkey creature as i'm just hooked on twin creatures.
I do hope the Empusa gets a royal threatment and abandons her true mythic origins (her looks anyway) as we have more than enough Succubus-wannabees already.
I hope the Empusa ends up an insectoid nymph or insectoid lamia, but in any form has mantis-features like the one in God of War has, this form also closely resembles the EXTREMLY AWESOME Deadly Dancer from one of the less-known D&D 3.5 edition books, really one of the most original and cool monsters i've ever seen in a book, the Empusa from God of War being even cooler, I just really like creatures which arms and legs end up in sharp pins on which they do acrobatic dance combat with.
I would not really like another Succubus version with a bronze leg, the flaming hair is found in Dawn Pipers and the succubus looks and behavior are spread around multiple other creatures.
I've seen many monster books, games and cartoons/movies do something original with Empusa's, except for Titan Quest which uses the succubus variant which is nice since the game doesn't have succubi, but pathfinder has succubi.
Somebody in the bestiary 4 wish topic wished for an empusa early on, so there is a big chance (given that many of the creatures already mentioned being in bestiary 4 come from the early pages of the wish topic) Empusa will be in bestiary 4.
Everybody wishing for Kamaitachi is a friend of mine, I do hope they are in bestiary 4 tho, I wished so hard for it... :-p
If they are paizonized I like the Sickle Weasels to be the fastest creatures and CR 11 or higher. I don't like the Kamaitachi version of 3 brothers working as one, I really want Kamaitachi to be just 1 creature, not the trio of weasels that tackle, wound and heal its victims... I really dislike the healing weasel of the trio, it doesn't make sense so I hope for a single weasel that moves so fast that it APPEARS to be multiple creatures attacking the victim or maybe has the spell-like ability to create mirror images of itself? But the healing stuff must go.
I would also like a land-based turtle monster which has a small landscape (rocks, trees, bushes, small creatures) growing on the back of its shell, they could be huge to colossal, geez I probably watched too much pokemon or so haha. But no, I saw it in the adventure game Risen and it looked like this: Thunderlizard from Risen
I just played the beta of the Diablo III-like Van Helsing game and its rather cool! Many slavic enemies! Vodyanoi, Rusalka, Leshy and the very cool storm nymphs called Vila.
Vila from Van Helsing Game
So if Vila doesn't turn up in bestiary 4 I would like to make a wish for these Storm Nymphs in bestiary 5 or an AP bestiary!
I would like Vila to be pearl-white skinned, floating nymphs with dark indigo/blackish hair which moves like it is caught in a storm all the time, even when there is no storm at all, their eyes are also black/indigo and lightning burst from them sometimes, they don't have clothes on their body but instead are dressed in stormclouds, they are like the evil versions of the Sylph, but unlike the playable race Sylph these are Fey and non-playable.
They have powers over storms, can shapeshift into indigo/black swans, crows/raven, hawks, eagles and owls and are often working together with Hala Demons, creating massive storms to trouble farmers and people lost in the fields.
I really like the idea of good nymphs (Oread, Dryad, some flower nymph, normal Nymph) and evil nymphs (Vila, Lampade, Leanan Sidhe and some frost nymph)
I would also like a PLANT version of Jack O Lantern, not an animated object like in Carrion Crown...
I really enjoy the paper mini's!
The only thing that I miss in this Shattered star bestiary are more Mezlan versions (I would have liked an 100% ooze version and a 100% human male and female version) and more Bogwid versions, one with spawn all over it or its spawn in swarmform, but otherwise its very good!
I really hope to see the entire bestiary 1,2 and 3 made into Todd Westcot drawn paper mini's one day. ;-)
Ahh one can dream!
I sure hope the finalized bestiary 4 list wasn't ready before Epic Meepo posted this AWESOME post in the bestiary 4 wishlist topic!
Please Wesley Tell me they are all in ;-)
This was by far my favorite post in all the bestiary 4 wishtopic!
In the Shattered Star Bestiary (paper mini's by Todd Westcot, which are AWESOME btw) there is this Fleshdreg Swarm creature, while i'm not a huge fan of the normal Fleshdreg, I really, REALLY like the looks of the Fleshdreg Swarm, a abnormal fleshy abomination of hidious creatures made of flesh grown and merged together in horrid and disgusting ways. Bravo!
I really would like the Fleshdreg Swarm or a creature that looks like it with another name (maybe the thing) in bestiary 5.
I do want to see new demons and devils in every bestiary, just like Golems, Giants, Angels, Dragons, Dinosaurs and giant Animals they are part of the world of Pathfinder, even if they just put in 1 or 2 i'm satisfied.
I think there are more then enough environment giants, drakes and golems but I still want them in bestiary cuz they just belong there.
The only thing I really want to see gone is the Zombie-must-be-the-end-of the-bestiary-thing...
Wolf Munroe wrote:
Both Vrykolakas, Giant Weasel and Drekavac are in AP bestiaries already, so there is a big chance they are in this Bestiary as well, I think Vrykolakas has the biggest chance as Nosferatu is also in.
How much I like to see Eye of The Deep, I think they won't include them as they have bonds with the Beholder.
Creatures from movies, I like to see the baby-eating tree from the Guardian (1990) somewhere, and the beast from the Relic. (they call it chimera but it doesn't look that way)
Some cool version of the predator maybe, and an evil leprechaun (maybe clurichaun).
All the creatures from Avatar of course, and Cujo and Razorback and Cruella De Vil from the 101 Dalmatians. (joking)
Tom Phillips wrote:
Yeah those 450+ word stat blocks (using the tarrasque as an example) don't really leave much room for the groovy flavor text! [Assuming each kaiju gets one Bestiary page.]
MY guess is that they receive an intro (the group Kaiju) and each of them probably gets 2 pages because they are special and extreme fan favorites..
They should keep the concept of the Vouivre, but the art for it was just weird looking, they should draw it while flying, having a wyvern like body with the tail ending in the upperbody of a pretty woman, a french name with a chinese woman in the art is also a weird combination, but again a flying artwork of it would be cool.
The only creatures that really sound silly for me (because i'm dutch) are Grootslang and OMA.
Grootslang is (strange) dutch for great serpent and Oma = Grandmother in my language.
So a giant space whale having the same name as a dutch grandmother is a bit odd and definiatly makes me like the creature less.
It's impossible as the Valkyrie was in Bestiary 3 without the Psychopomp subtype.
I hope all mythological creatures (from real myths and legends) used in adventure path bestiaries make it into this book. So Selkies, Polevik, Fachen, Rokurokubi, Bakekujira and all those others.
The only 2 creatures from real legends I hope they change (is it artwork or fluff) are the Vouivre and Ankou, I even hope the Vouivre is re-named into Kampe/Campe or Drakaina (which means she-dragon)
I don't really like the strange design of the Ankou, so I hope they turn it into a reaper-like creature on a chariot.
I'm happy now! I never cared for or liked the Aeons at all, they were pretty much the worst thing for me in bestiary 2, they were pretty much 6 pages of fast-skipping.
I'm not a huge fan of Psychopomps eighter, but at least I like some of their designs like the Keres.
What would Argus look like? What would it be? Aberration, titan, giant, mythic? So curious!
Well there are already CR 1 bunnies called Skaders and Wolpertingers, I wish the Al-mi-raj actually is a very powerful bunny monster.
I love nothing more than creatures that are small but which are very powerfull. That's why LOVE the Quickling from D&D and Aurumvorax from pathfinder. If only Al-mi'raj, Kamaitachi and Ichneumon the dragon slayer mongoose could join that powerful-but-small heard I'd be happy.
And Griffons are mostly weak, early level enemies, so its not really hard to be more powerful than a griffon.
I'd like the Al-mi'raj to be CR 5 or 6.
I agree on more Proteans, one with magnetic and gravity powers would be fun, a Cupido angel would be fun, and a Lamia Empusa would be even more fun. I don't really care for more Aeons and Inevitables tho, if they turn up I hope to see some awesome variants.