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Here is a strange question for you all, if I(or someone else) get this item's PDF early and list the monsters in the book on the site. Would you want them listed by CR, alphabetical order, or by creature type?

I just want them to put them on spoiler, cuz I don't want to spoil the entire list that early for myself, its more awesome to be suprised with every page you turn, I spoiled Bestiary 3 for myself, while I didn't know much about mythology and folkore creatures then (I didn't knew about Adaro, Baykok and others for example) now I know most creatures so the spoiler niveau would be much higher.

So please if that time comes, put them in the [/spoiler ]

With this new 250 monsters I'm 98% sure that Pathfinder beats D&D in the amount of monsters, only the 4th edition monsters is no match of course, but 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th edition combined will still not beat the HUGE amount of monsters in pathfinder, as every month we get new monsters while D&D has kinda stoppped making new creatures and re-uses its old ones over and over.

Just a silly fact.

Even if its just a joke, I can't place that 0HD race in any of those catogories...

Its not scary, dangerous, horrible and all that interesting.

:-p <-- Watch the smiley

Well what are the monsters then?

Is the summoned Eidolon creature from the Iconic Summoner based on the Aitvaras from Latvian myth or just based on the more famous Cockatrice?

Its appearance really reminds me of the Aitvaras Dragon from Latvia, as it combines rooster and dragon-like features.

You forgot about Mantis and Assassin Bug, or don't you care for such Insects?

I did say that its maybe for AP bestiaries, not 100% for surtain that they are in bestiary 4 eh :D

There isn't a Rat King yet, but like the Namazu and some others Wesley said that the Rat King is on the list, so its probably in bestiary 4 or maybe it comes in a AP bestiary soon?

I do hope the Rat King would be a little bit more than just some normal rats that are merged together with their tails.

I hope they are intelligent alien rats that are merged together in horrid, distasteful ways.

Yeah maybe, but one is a land turtle the other a sea turtle. :-p But the sea turtle is actually a whale in pathfinder.

I never read books other than pathfinder books, so I didn't read about Terry pratchett :-)

Can't wait for this!

1: I wished all 7 sins would be put in for the Sinspawns, that would have been so awesome.

2: I really hope Tenebrous Worm has better artwork, this giant centipede artwork isn't even correct, the Tenebrous Worm should be more catterpiller like and be black and bristled not some red centipede.

Sad to see some creatures being left out:
- Goliath Stag Beetle - Especially because beetles also got left out of the previous bestiary box... there aren't any beetle monsters yet.
- Slicer Beetle - Was really looking forward to this artwork...
- Cacodaemon
- Compsognathus
- Giant Gar - Rather would have seen this one than a normal Gar.
- Jinkin Gremlin - very strange that this popular creatures aren't in, especially Pugwampi?
- Vexgit Gremlin
- Pugwampi Gremlin
- Arbiter
- Glyptodon - No love for dinosaurs and megafauna? And still no Megaloceros and Glyptodon artwork :-(
- Megaloceros
- Megatherium
- Arsinotheirum
- Cythnigot
- Soulbound Doll - Another strange one that didn't end up in the product?
- Twigjack
- Yrthak - This one I don't really understand why I didn't get an entree?

Anyway can't wait to see which monsters got new artwork in this!

Like I said Fakefurcoats I really like it Huge or Gargantuan, I think gargantuan would be perfect for it.
But just like the Aztek Crocodile monster and the Asian Catfish Namazu I will shrudder of the thought of it being colossal.

The idea is that tiny and smaller creatures live on its back which is looking like some landscape, i've seen such creatures in many cartoons, stories, games and yes also at pokemon. I don't mind a colossal version with bigger creatures living on it, but at least also make a smaller version too.

The Land Wight would be the ideal animated landscape monster, as its an entire landscape animated when a powerful mortal dies a horrid death in nature and the entire landscape around it gets corrupted and controlled by the diseased person.

@ Atheral

I think that was meant funny, but if you read any better you see I didn't say ISLAND, but LANDSCAPE, something different.

Notice I put the :-p smilie behind my text, meaning I wasn't 100% serious.

Who said It needs to be impressive? Is an Otyugh, Owlbear or Pixie that impressive? we already have the island whale, so a gargantuan overgrown camouflaged turtle wouldn't be wrong.

I just never wish for colossal creatures, my line ends with Gargantuan.

I don't think it's that more people are more easily offended. Instead, it's that courtesy, manners, and empathy have become much more rare.

Mostly thanks to the television, mobile phones, channels like MTV and Commercials that make beautiful people look like Gods and normal people look like non-important boring creeps, mostly if they use ugly or normal people they are meant for comical reasons...

Television is the biggest reason people changed, especially commercials and Jersey Shore-like shows which are non-stop on every channel these days, about antisocial people that rule and are "cool", just take a look at that horrid snookie.

People learn that its OK to scream at your boyfriend/husband or cheat on your friends because in those shows they do it as well...

I understand the point he's trying to make. Unfortunately, he can't separate what he wants his point to be from my point. They are directly linked and he can't just wish them to be separate.

A white person who uses the word n**$#& is (perhaps unintentionally) invoking the history behind it.

I think the problem with this is that many children these days get poisoned by that horrid tv channel called MTV, on which every freaking person takes the word (you seem to hate so much) in his/her mouth like constantly.

And many people that use it are so young, they don't know anything about slaves and old times. (probably because they suffer bad classes or they don't care about school at all)

I dislike the chromatic and metallic dragons, I don't care for the asian dragons from bestiary 3, but ALL the dragons from bestiary 2 are among my favorite creatures! Happy to see Umbral and Magma dragons there!!! I hope to see Brine, Cloud and especially some Crystal Dragon as well! Crystal and Cloud dragons get much to less shine time.

In Holland many people use the word "racism" as a key to escape custody or bills from the police/cops, or even when they feel offended for the wrong reasons, like I saw a Arab guy scream out loud !racism! to a shop-owner for him being caught stealing some odor, easy to say racism if you are being caught by someone with another colour... but an entirly sneaky and wrong argument.

Me (being gay) are being offended much more than any of those other-coloured, other-raced people here in Holland at least, ironically mostly by the people that take racism in their mouth the most, namely Arab males and males from the Antilleans seem to have extreme hate towards gays here in holland.

You mean that colossal thing in Neverending story 1 with the cute little face of the alien I.T that sneezes all the time?

Not really my intention, I don't want a colossal creature, I never liked this impossible big creatures as you can't make sprites/paper miniatures of those, so I want the landscape turtle to be a lot smaller than the one from neverending story.

The Luck Dragon from Neverending story would be fun as Guardian Dragon type, the guardian of all hope, luck and dreams. Just like Ladon would be the Guardian Dragon of nature and plants.

And Coral Capuchins are monkeys with wings so they are flying monkies afteral, they are just not the type you are looking for but saying they aren't flying monkeys is like saying a werewolf doesn't have teeth...

Forgot about the Clockwork Dragon haven we? :-P

I hope this bestiary is just like the previous 3 Winter Ap's full of cool creatures of ice, myth and strangeness, the next AP probably won't have them given its about humans and russia, and the last AP I hope returns to the ice, myth and strangeness theme.

We have a colossal whale with an island on its back called something like aspichidolone (I never remember that horrid name) but that's not what i'm after.
The creature i'm after is a land turtle, not a sea turtle and its not colossal, its rather huge to gargantuan or even large and has just a small landscape (a few rocks, plants and trees, and some animals living there, not an entire island) on its back.

Of course there could be volcanic-landscapes (with even a small volcan on their back) and ice, desert, beach and tropic variants as well of these Landscape Turtles.

Flying Monkeys are there in the form of Coral Capuchins in one of the pirate AP's bestiaries.

I would like the greek Kerkopes (Twin thief monkeys killed by Hercule) to be the flying monkeys of Pathfinder, they are always born twins and if one of them dies the other goes berserk, they work together as master thieves, and of all races and monsters the Kerkopes are the most professional thieves, what they have their mind on they mostly get.

I used flying monkeys from Oz, the always-born-twin-monkeys (from a myth I can't remember) and the thieving Kerkopes from greek mythology and merged them into one monkey creature as i'm just hooked on twin creatures.

I do hope the Empusa gets a royal threatment and abandons her true mythic origins (her looks anyway) as we have more than enough Succubus-wannabees already.

I hope the Empusa ends up an insectoid nymph or insectoid lamia, but in any form has mantis-features like the one in God of War has, this form also closely resembles the EXTREMLY AWESOME Deadly Dancer from one of the less-known D&D 3.5 edition books, really one of the most original and cool monsters i've ever seen in a book, the Empusa from God of War being even cooler, I just really like creatures which arms and legs end up in sharp pins on which they do acrobatic dance combat with.

I would not really like another Succubus version with a bronze leg, the flaming hair is found in Dawn Pipers and the succubus looks and behavior are spread around multiple other creatures.

I've seen many monster books, games and cartoons/movies do something original with Empusa's, except for Titan Quest which uses the succubus variant which is nice since the game doesn't have succubi, but pathfinder has succubi.

Somebody in the bestiary 4 wish topic wished for an empusa early on, so there is a big chance (given that many of the creatures already mentioned being in bestiary 4 come from the early pages of the wish topic) Empusa will be in bestiary 4.

In an Evil Dead (movie) scenario which monster from pathfinder would be best to use?

Shadow Demons? Or are there other monsters/undead/demons that would fit better?

Everybody wishing for Kamaitachi is a friend of mine, I do hope they are in bestiary 4 tho, I wished so hard for it... :-p

If they are paizonized I like the Sickle Weasels to be the fastest creatures and CR 11 or higher. I don't like the Kamaitachi version of 3 brothers working as one, I really want Kamaitachi to be just 1 creature, not the trio of weasels that tackle, wound and heal its victims... I really dislike the healing weasel of the trio, it doesn't make sense so I hope for a single weasel that moves so fast that it APPEARS to be multiple creatures attacking the victim or maybe has the spell-like ability to create mirror images of itself? But the healing stuff must go.

I would also like a land-based turtle monster which has a small landscape (rocks, trees, bushes, small creatures) growing on the back of its shell, they could be huge to colossal, geez I probably watched too much pokemon or so haha. But no, I saw it in the adventure game Risen and it looked like this: Thunderlizard from Risen

I just played the beta of the Diablo III-like Van Helsing game and its rather cool! Many slavic enemies! Vodyanoi, Rusalka, Leshy and the very cool storm nymphs called Vila.

Vila from Van Helsing Game
In the game they look a bit like Warcraft Harpies, but this could be their power to transform into black swans and black wolves.

So if Vila doesn't turn up in bestiary 4 I would like to make a wish for these Storm Nymphs in bestiary 5 or an AP bestiary!

I would like Vila to be pearl-white skinned, floating nymphs with dark indigo/blackish hair which moves like it is caught in a storm all the time, even when there is no storm at all, their eyes are also black/indigo and lightning burst from them sometimes, they don't have clothes on their body but instead are dressed in stormclouds, they are like the evil versions of the Sylph, but unlike the playable race Sylph these are Fey and non-playable.

They have powers over storms, can shapeshift into indigo/black swans, crows/raven, hawks, eagles and owls and are often working together with Hala Demons, creating massive storms to trouble farmers and people lost in the fields.

I really like the idea of good nymphs (Oread, Dryad, some flower nymph, normal Nymph) and evil nymphs (Vila, Lampade, Leanan Sidhe and some frost nymph)

I would also like a PLANT version of Jack O Lantern, not an animated object like in Carrion Crown...

Abaia / Buggane / Cherufe / Empusa / Lamapade / Namazu / Ichneumon / Kamaitachi / Geryon / Maenad / Morgen

I really hope its one of these you are talking bout! But all others would be sweet as well!

Or did you mean Raiju which is already in the bestiary of an Jade Regent AP?

I really enjoy the paper mini's!
The artwork is funny, cute and awesome at the same time! I even like some of the artwork more than in the real bestiary (like Umdhlebi, Melfesh Monster, Fleshdreg Swarm and Tiberolith, some of these are not in this product but its an example).
Also some creatures that miss artwork in the bestiaries have artwork in these (like Urchins and more clockwork familiars!)

The only thing that I miss in this Shattered star bestiary are more Mezlan versions (I would have liked an 100% ooze version and a 100% human male and female version) and more Bogwid versions, one with spawn all over it or its spawn in swarmform, but otherwise its very good!

I really hope to see the entire bestiary 1,2 and 3 made into Todd Westcot drawn paper mini's one day. ;-)

Ahh one can dream!

Also in one of the bestiary 4 wishtopic Wesley told me that the Namazu Catfish is on the list, so that probably means we see it in bestiary 4!

I sure hope the finalized bestiary 4 list wasn't ready before Epic Meepo posted this AWESOME post in the bestiary 4 wishlist topic!

Abaia: a giant eel that can pursue opponents onto land by calling forth a roving wave of flood waters.

Bakonawa: a dragon that causes eclipses; sort of a living, draconic analog to the tzitzimitl.
Buggane: a burrowing, swimming ogre that works as an enforcer for hags and fey.
Cherufe: a creature made of molten magma that dwells in volcanos and demands human sacrifices in its honor.
Empusa: a woman with flaming hair, bronze hooves for feet, and the ability to cause sleep paralysis; probably a type of lamia, given her origin.
Galatea: a sentient stone idol brought to life by the devotion of its worshipers.
Geryon (the Greek myth version, not the D&D version): a giant with three heads and three bodies. Probably a weaker, mortal cousin of the hekatonchiere, in the same way giants are weaker, mortal cousins of ordinary titans.
Ichneumon: an earth-encrusted, dragon-slaying creature from medieval bestiaries.
Ipotane (or Silenius): an outsider that serves as a drunken reveler in the retinues of wine gods and similar beings.
Kamaitachi: a lightning-fast flying weasel that creates mirror images of itself while ripping foes to shreds in an awesome blur of fury.
Kuchisake: meaning "Slit Mouth," a ghost (or possibly a kyton) with a mutilated mouth and a pair of scissors it uses to attack its victims.
Lampade: an underword nymph from the retinue of a witch-goddess, known for carrying lanterns whose light can drive mortals insane.
Llorona: a.k.a. weeping woman; a skeleton in a white dress that disguises itself as a living woman to lure victims closer, at which point it grapples and drowns them.
Maenad (the Greek myth version, not the D&D version): drunken, raging women (possibly fey) that tear apart their prey with their bare hands.
Makara: a crocodile-fish that disgorges summoned monsters from its mouth when threatened.
Morgen: the namesake of Morgan le Fey, a race of high-CR fey with healing powers and a "fata morgana" ability that creates semi-real illusory terrain.
Namazu: a giant fish that creates earthquakes, tsunamis, and similar effects.
Peuchen: a flying snake with a paralytic gaze; possibly a low-CR dragon.
Raiju: a flying thunder beast with a combination of electricity, fire, and sonic attacks, making it an energy-themed monster that isn't a one-trick pony.
Talos: A mid- to high-CR construct with wings, so higher-level PCs can't just fly around it to reach whatever it's guarding.
Ushabti: A swarm of miniature construct servitors for the dead pharaoh who has everything.
Xana: a fey bound and corrupted by a curse inherent to her kind, giving PCs the chance to either fight her or transform her into a gentler fey by lifting her curse.

Please Wesley Tell me they are all in ;-)

This was by far my favorite post in all the bestiary 4 wishtopic!

Btw.

In the Shattered Star Bestiary (paper mini's by Todd Westcot, which are AWESOME btw) there is this Fleshdreg Swarm creature, while i'm not a huge fan of the normal Fleshdreg, I really, REALLY like the looks of the Fleshdreg Swarm, a abnormal fleshy abomination of hidious creatures made of flesh grown and merged together in horrid and disgusting ways. Bravo!

I really would like the Fleshdreg Swarm or a creature that looks like it with another name (maybe the thing) in bestiary 5.

I do want to see new demons and devils in every bestiary, just like Golems, Giants, Angels, Dragons, Dinosaurs and giant Animals they are part of the world of Pathfinder, even if they just put in 1 or 2 i'm satisfied.

I think there are more then enough environment giants, drakes and golems but I still want them in bestiary cuz they just belong there.

The only thing I really want to see gone is the Zombie-must-be-the-end-of the-bestiary-thing...
In that way Zomok (or any other monster that comes after Zombie) will never have a chance to shine in a bestiary.

Spellbook in bestiary???? Do you mean an animated spellbook or what?

BlemmYES!

I really like those headless cannibals, hope to see them.

I'm rather happy with Coeurl and Kamadan, Umber Hulk and Carrion Crawler have my deepest tears...

Well they will be in bestiary 4, there must be at least one monster connected with the dream world, and otherwise Tooth Fairies that come when you are asleep will do nicely.

And the biggest creature (The island turtle) is already in a AP bestiary, its much bigger than a Kaiju, and its still Colossal.

I just want to add my two or three cents about a few things I hope to see in the book, even though I'm sure the list has been finalized a long time.

Of course I'm excited about nosferatu template the most, but also happy to hear about Cthulhu and Grendal.

Other things I'd like to see in the book are:
drekavec -- Not sure if I spelled it correctly put this is a cool little low CR undead with similarities to a vampire (gaseous form, warded against by a common household item [salt, in this case]), and it needs more Pathfinder love.
vrykolakas -- The version from the AP has abilities listed that aren't explained so I'd like to see an official fixed version, either with the abilities explained or omitted, preferably included and explained. As festrogs are to ghouls, so the vrykolakas is to vampires.
dire weasel -- I know Pathfinder tries to use real megafauna for its dire animals most of the time, but dire weasel is up there with dire badger and dire bat for iconic status.

Oh, also the ARG mentions that ratfolk ride giant rats, which it explains are dire rats with the giant simple template applied to make them medium size. It doesn't give any information for purchasing or breeding giant rat mounts though, so I hope that information shows up somewhere.

Both Vrykolakas, Giant Weasel and Drekavac are in AP bestiaries already, so there is a big chance they are in this Bestiary as well, I think Vrykolakas has the biggest chance as Nosferatu is also in.

How much I like to see Eye of The Deep, I think they won't include them as they have bonds with the Beholder.

Zzzz*

Maybe you guys should create a new topic about Cthulhu & Co, as almost this entire topic is about them already ;-)

There is no need for another bestiary, just a lovecraft tome of terrors would do I believe, as most other monsters (other than big asian creatures) aren't getting any love anyways.

I'm very curious what dinosaurs and megafauna made it in, my hopes go up for Therizinosaurus, Tanystropheus, Dunkleosteus and Procoptodon the giant kangaroo.

I would like to see a Dire or Magical Platypus in here, the normal Platypus is in the animal book already.

Creatures from movies, I like to see the baby-eating tree from the Guardian (1990) somewhere, and the beast from the Relic. (they call it chimera but it doesn't look that way)

Some cool version of the predator maybe, and an evil leprechaun (maybe clurichaun).

All the creatures from Avatar of course, and Cujo and Razorback and Cruella De Vil from the 101 Dalmatians. (joking)

That Eidolon thing (I always thought the mage summoned a Cockatrice tho) would be the PERFECT artwork for the Aitvaras, a creature that is half dragon half rooster, outdoors it will be a dragon, indoors a fiery rooster, that picture would be the perfect outdoor dragon version of the Aitvaras.

Much like the intro pages of Devils, Behemoths, Divs, Azata, Demons, Aeons and all those other groups that got an intro page.

Yeah those 450+ word stat blocks (using the tarrasque as an example) don't really leave much room for the groovy flavor text! [Assuming each kaiju gets one Bestiary page.]

MY guess is that they receive an intro (the group Kaiju) and each of them probably gets 2 pages because they are special and extreme fan favorites..

They should keep the concept of the Vouivre, but the art for it was just weird looking, they should draw it while flying, having a wyvern like body with the tail ending in the upperbody of a pretty woman, a french name with a chinese woman in the art is also a weird combination, but again a flying artwork of it would be cool.

The only creatures that really sound silly for me (because i'm dutch) are Grootslang and OMA.

Grootslang is (strange) dutch for great serpent and Oma = Grandmother in my language.

So a giant space whale having the same name as a dutch grandmother is a bit odd and definiatly makes me like the creature less.

It's impossible as the Valkyrie was in Bestiary 3 without the Psychopomp subtype.

I hope all mythological creatures (from real myths and legends) used in adventure path bestiaries make it into this book. So Selkies, Polevik, Fachen, Rokurokubi, Bakekujira and all those others.

The only 2 creatures from real legends I hope they change (is it artwork or fluff) are the Vouivre and Ankou, I even hope the Vouivre is re-named into Kampe/Campe or Drakaina (which means she-dragon)

I don't really like the strange design of the Ankou, so I hope they turn it into a reaper-like creature on a chariot.

Well Valkyries and Dullahan won't be Psychopomps in Pathfinder.

Kere's are tho.

Dragon78 don't you care for Selkies? Suprising!

I'm happy now! I never cared for or liked the Aeons at all, they were pretty much the worst thing for me in bestiary 2, they were pretty much 6 pages of fast-skipping.

I'm not a huge fan of Psychopomps eighter, but at least I like some of their designs like the Keres.

What would Argus look like? What would it be? Aberration, titan, giant, mythic? So curious!

I would want the Almiraj at CR3-4 range because the idea of it being more powerful then a Griffon or Chimera is just weird to me.

Man it has been almost three years since we have gotten any new types of Proteans, Aeons, Inevitables, Angels, or Lamia.

Well there are already CR 1 bunnies called Skaders and Wolpertingers, I wish the Al-mi-raj actually is a very powerful bunny monster.

I love nothing more than creatures that are small but which are very powerfull. That's why LOVE the Quickling from D&D and Aurumvorax from pathfinder. If only Al-mi'raj, Kamaitachi and Ichneumon the dragon slayer mongoose could join that powerful-but-small heard I'd be happy.

And Griffons are mostly weak, early level enemies, so its not really hard to be more powerful than a griffon.

I'd like the Al-mi'raj to be CR 5 or 6.

I agree on more Proteans, one with magnetic and gravity powers would be fun, a Cupido angel would be fun, and a Lamia Empusa would be even more fun. I don't really care for more Aeons and Inevitables tho, if they turn up I hope to see some awesome variants.