Gwyneth Koschei |
Drunk Naali is going to be best Naali. Calling it now.
Ooooo~ Dien, that's actually sort of cool!
My only hiccup is that as a +2 Bonus it's fighting for a spot with Holy and Axiomatic and...well...Holy and Axiomatic. Or, uh, Bane of the Evil-Outsider variety for maximum anti-demon lulz >_>;;
On the note of path abilities and such, Gwyn's actually...sort of locked in for at least 7 of them;; Could even be as high as 9(!) if I really, really want to stick with the "Mortal Legion Archon" theme I'm sort of going for, but I'm taking suggestions on all accounts!
Legendary Item [Weapon] x3 Gwyn's a stubborn ass who refuses to use anything that isn't a Longsword...so it might as well be the best damn Longsword Golarion's ever seen
Divine Source x3 DEMI-GOD! DEMI-GOD! DEMI-GOD!
Display of Charisma Because when all of your knowledges are Charisma skill checks and you have Touch of Glory...Surely there's an argument for having the occasional +40-something bonus to your Diplomacy as well, right? Right? *cough*
Armour Master x2 As the Legion Archons say: *rolls around in Mithril Full Plate*--Dex Cap? What's a Dex Cap? Armour Check Penalties? That's a Thing? Naaaaaah!
Funny thing though. I'm actually sort of stuck on whether to bother Dual-Pathing Champion...Fleet Charge so gud...but Swift Actions...I'm going to be so starved for swift actions so...mayyybe not? ;_;
I had a lot of time to debate ze paladin's build this weekend, to say the least.
Naali |
I might also take a couple Divine Source abilities. Partly because we don't have a huge amount of higher level casting, and then also because having Good [Redemption] would be really thematic.
I still have no idea what to do with most of my normal feats and mythic feats, though.
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But at least I don't have to deal with the jackass boss any more so...that's definitely a plus. Definitely, definitely, definitely a plus.
Now if I can figure out some way to pay the rent this month...eheheh...hehhhhh.
Divine Source is obviously pretty awesome but the whole locked into wholesale domains with the first tier is...ghnn. I mean I know Gwyn is--Good/Law alignment demands, folks!--but, if I'm reading it right, subdomains don't kick in until 2nd taking, no? I'm still not sure if, because she'll later channel Iomedae's Heroism subdomain, that means she ought to be tossing Glory out as well...? I dunno. Food for thought. Redemption is definitely an awesome choice though, given the campaign, but in my case I hazard it might be a touch cheeky for a Paladin to be able to cast Atonement as an SLA :P
I have a habit of planning pretty far in advance, tossing mechanical + thematic elements together and such; a few years of mid-session leveling sort of belted it into me. Trying to get around the lack of pure arcane casting with some shenanigans myself, but we'll see how that goes. Might not even survive to 2nd level yet.
Naali |
Aww s@$&, I hope you find a replacement soon.
Yeah the domain must be alignment thing is pretty nasty, especially since paladins cannot possibly swap out. I recently, as I do with nearly every character I make, realized the alignment (CG) I chose probably isn't the best fit for how I'm actually playing the character (feels more NG in my head). Especially not if I'd be embodying it and becoming a source of that power.
So that's a little more freeing. Wanted to go with Community, which I think is fitting. I'd probably go to Divine Source II and stop, but I dunno which 3rd domain fits best. I suppose I might know that later, when/if we get to that point, haha.
Does Divine source actually grant the powers, or just the spells?
Gwyneth Koschei |
As do I, Naali.
On topic: Spells only, each one as a 1/day SLA. Your domain-classed followers get the whole shebang, though are only granted as many spell levels as you have tiers.
Yeah, I have a similar problem on alignment; heck, Gwyn's hardly the most lawful paladin you'll ever meet, but then she's a Paladin who's identified as a clerical acolyte for most of her years, if one with a stronger arm and quicker temper. Something tells me she'll get hit with a big chunk of Lawful if/when she gets to see what's become of Kenabres, but that's what character development's for! I'm fine with being locked into Good/Law, if only to adhere to Golarion's "Deities must have appropriate alignment domains" quip, but I wish they'd thrown you a free subdomain, if only to give you some element of choice :/
Community's a cool choice! Some pretty interesting spells in there for sure! I'd have only gone Divine Source II if JJ hadn't recently made the insinuation that Iomedae went the whole way with it...because hell yeah Gwyn's gonna jump that bandwagon! Then again, I could always go Beyond Morality...(and then do something REALLY crazy; like grabbing the Demon subdomain to go with her "Good Guy, Arguably Bad Influence" aspect) but I'm pretty sure Iomedae, Queen Galfrey, Anevia's wife, and Abrielle would all knock Gwyn's teeth out, so I'm thinkin' noooo.
If I went just on personal preference of what I think might work later on, I'm looking at Magic, Protection, Liberation* and Glory as potential domains; Archon, Divine, Purity, Freedom, Heroism on the subdomain side. I dunno. Anything could happen between now and then, so I'm certainly not giving it a whacking whole lot of thought beyond "That might make sense I guess". When it comes down to it, I'm probably just gonna pin you guys for a suggestion based on what you all think a Cleric of Gwyneth would reasonably domain; because I'm obviously bias as heck :P
*Because there isn't a single LG god with Liberation and that's always bugged me. I mean it makes sense, I suppose, but since we're liberating Sarkoris from the Abyss...totes counts, right?
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My beautiful dainty skin will bruise ;___;
Regarding all the long-term build discussion stuff: not that I don't care about it, I just... don't think that way. I've looked over mythic ability path stuff for the Champion for like... three minutes, lol. Mostly I'm one of those lazy 'sit back and randomly pick stuff that sounds good at level-up' type of gamers.
...my first PFS character, now retired, was built that way, and wound up with a base CMD of 47. Blind dumb luck on my part. ;)
Sadron Vaneth |
Glad you're in the clear.
I'll also be doing the homework disappearing act from friends and family during our Thanksgiving break [except for the actual dinner] (but I'll still check in for games).
I like to think of it not as a "Procrastination" but "I work well under pressure.". But I am probably lying to myself, I'm a terrible procrastinator too, when it comes to the homework. Unless it's group-work, because I won't try and take anyone down with me...
Gwyneth Koschei |
No worries yo!~ Glad to hear you made it through the other side, Rat :)
Hope you all enjoy the holiday too! Those of you who celebrate it anyway. *sips tea*
Abrielle |
As a Canadian... we disassociate ourselves with the racist American tradition of celebrating the beginning of the end of the native population in North America by having our day of giving thanks a good month before theirs.
I'm teasing, Americans.
...sort of >.>
Abrielle |
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I wish you guys would take the psychotic tradition of Black Friday back. It's seeping out to here in a bad way over the last couple days. YOU TAKE YOUR COMMERCIALISM BACK! YOU LEAVE US ALONE!
We already got Boxing Day which is basically the day we all go out and buy ourselves the s@!+ no one bought us for Christmas that we actually wanted on a great sale.
Gwyneth Koschei |
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A ton of stores over here have actually "Cancelled" Black Friday. Small mercies, I suppose.
Boxing Day and the January Sales however; those I can live with. "Why yes, I would like to purchase this item for a reduced cost and not get trampled to death in the process by some hag desiring an 80% off designer handbag..."
Naali |
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So I only just realized that there are Holy Bombs available to alchemists, and that we are in a campaign that has entirely (or almost entirely) evil enemy campaign.
Ain't no 'Resist Energy' for divine.
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GM Rat King |
Heads up! Info about Neathholm is up in the Campaign Info tab. Depending upon how much time you all want to spend here, you can sell things and pick up basic items. If you want to buy anything worth more than 50g, do the usual percentile roll and let me know if you're shooting for high or low. The chance of it being there is 75%, so hopefully you won't be failing too often.
Also, feel free to keep RPing! When one or two more people are ready to keep rolling, say so and we'll head inside to meet the Chief.
Sadron Vaneth |
Heh, games. It's where I learn things. Like night-blooming plants.
Any geneticists in the house want to make Abrielle and Sadron's plant a real thing? Because that would be pretty sweet.
Therrik |
Hmmn, by the loot tracker nobody laid claim to the masterwork hammer. I wouldn't mind a +1 to hit unless someone else has a hankering for it, but I could also be okay with just selling it and banking my share of the gold for a better falchion down the road, etc. Opinions?
Gwyneth Koschei |
I say go for it! Better it get used than not, etc, etc.
At a glance on the selling tally, assuming the usual 50% cut:
"Probably Good to Sell" List
MWK Chain Shirt -- 125gp
Spiked Gauntlet x2 -- 5gp
Golden Ring -- Needs an Appraisal
PRICELESS Marble Statue -- Needs a legit Appraisal
Backpack -- 1gp (Gwyn's old one.)
Caltrops -- 5sp
Total Sell Value: 131gp 5sp (+ Unappraised Treasure)
Current Loose Party Change (in GP): 216gp
"Probably Good to Keep" List
MWK Warhammer -- Therrik
ALL THE POTIONS! (+ Holy Water) -- Naali (I assume)
ALL THE SPELL...book...pages? -- Naali's Extract Bait
Scrolls -- Eh. The Resist Energy's probably worth it's place. Cause Fear...not so much.
Copper / Amethyst Brooch -- Huh. We didn't actually figure much out about this/that first camp area did we? Maybe ask around? Seems like fungi is Neathholm's thing anyway.
MWK Backpack -- Gywn
Unholy Symbol of Baphomet -- Investigative purposes
Party Fund after Selling: 347gp 5sp (+ Unappraised Treasure!~)
Thoughts? A couple more potions wouldn't go amiss I guess, but I'm not fussed either way.
Not editing the tracker until we're in agreement, at which point I'll clean it up unless someone wants to beat me to it
Naali |
I think you did mention, but I disregarded them because they were just plain too heavy to be worth it for me at least. Unless they were masterwork also.
Unfortunately the formulae list for alchemists is very tiny and almost entirely self buffs, so of the things we have here's what I can learn. 10g for 1st tier, 40g for 2nd tier. Spellbook:
1 - Detect secret doors, 2 - Blur, 2 - Invisibility, 2 - Resist Energy, 2 - Levitate
I can't learn shocking grasp or cause fear from those scrolls, they aren't on my list. Resist energy scroll is, but I can learn that from the spellbook. I just gotta carry it around until we get to level 4.
Gwyneth Koschei |
It's been a while since I've played with an Alchemist (whether in the party or one myself), but yeah, that is something I did remember about their list: such selfish casters! :P Can't complain about free formulae (relatively speaking) so that's all yours. Shocking Grasp and Cause Fear are probably better sold off in that case, I guess.
I'm pretty sure we didn't take the glaives as well...unless they were very shiny indeed.
"Probably Good to Sell" List
MWK Chain Shirt -- 125gp
Spiked Gauntlet x2 -- 5gp
Golden Ring -- Needs an Appraisal
PRICELESS Marble Statue -- Needs a legit Appraisal
Backpack -- 1gp
Caltrops -- 5sp
Scrolls -- Shocking Grasp + Cause Fear: 12gp 5sp
Total Sell Value: 144gp (+ Unappraised Treasure)
Current Loose Party Change (in gp): 216gp
"Probably Good to Keep" List
MWK Warhammer -- Therrik
ALL THE POTIONS! (+ Holy Water) -- Naali (I assume)
Spellbook -- Naali
Scrolls -- Keep Resist Energy?
Copper / Amethyst Brooch -- Ask around then sell off?
MWK Backpack -- Gywn
Unholy Symbol of Baphomet -- Investigative purposes
Party Fund after Selling: 360gp (+ Unappraised Treasure)
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Naali |
I'm good to continue on, assuming we get a chance to sell that list of things later!
They're selfish casters because of Infusion. You can BE a helper, you just gotta earn it... :P
That's going to be my first discovery, at level 2
Naali |
Forgive me if my posts for the next week or two are lacking in descriptive flavor. I am hitting my own set of finals for classes, and because of some minor illnesses, am a bit behind where I should be.
Gwyneth Koschei |
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Tis the season!~
I know I'm being kept busy! Job interview monday and they've got me filling out all these forms for it, hahaha ^^;;
Hope the holidays are treating you all well :)
Sadron Vaneth |
From beneath the mound of senior project and game architecture classes... I hear you.
Good luck Gwyneth!
Sadron Vaneth |
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Last final taken, last presentation given, last assignment turned in.
I'm FREEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeee from the semester.
So much work...
Gwyneth Koschei |
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Clearly our Bard's Inspire Competence worked, as I got a call this morning and apparently I have a job waiting for me in the new year! A job which is a whole 15 minute walk from my home, pays some ~4k more than that hellhole I was last in, and lets me put my fancy computing degree to work. Literally me. All day. And probably the next two weeks.
"How to pay rentz" panic over, now I can actually enjoy the holidays. Hope everyone's going strong and the weight of academia hasn't quite crushed the life out of you all yet!
Naali |
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Congratulations Gwyn, that was super fast!
Finally survived to the vacation. It's been hell.
Was very close to failing both of my classes (might still fail one...) this term because I've been getting increasingly sick since the start of the school year, and then got a normal flu stacked on top of that just in time for finals week. Doctor doesn't really know what's up, I have to go for more tests.
And even though I have only ever failed two classes in 4 years (and one was a non-required humanities elective), that put me very close to not graduating on time.
And then on top of that, my laptop is falling apart and needs to be sent in for warranty repairs, my desktop needs a replacement part, and I need to replace my phone because it only lasts like 4 hours on battery without even actively using it. So I'm also super behind on my senior project because I've been sick all term and my team is not being productive enough.
I'm just really really glad I can just take things easy for a while, and that includes posting more on here, cause it's fun. So thumbs up to all of you for being fun people.
Gwyneth Koschei |
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Yeah, got super lucky. I applied within 12 hours of it being posted and was the only one to full-mark their aptitude test sooo...yeah. Last time I was unemployed, it took half a year. There was a lot of celebration in my house yesterday.
As for your term: YIKES! Yeah, so happy you survived to the holiday because gods its sounds like you need it! :( Wrap yourself in duvets and get all that illness/stress to wind off while it can, yeah?
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Naali |