Alright, I think everything on my profile should be up-to-date now. That makes sense to me, DM. Thank you. I'll put that skill point into Perception.
As far as wands go, I personally think it would be worthwhile to get a CLW one. CLW isn't one of the spells Maya knows, though she could use scrolls and wands. Based on what DM Brainiac just said, I think it would still be worth getting one. I would probably think it was worth it even without that information. Yes, we could use spells, but if we have a wand, we don't have worry about Liam wasting or using up other spells for cure spells. We do have some potions, but I think those will run out quicker than we expect. Assuming Maya has any gold to contribute to the shared pile (which is a big if considering all the stuff she's already gotten), I'm definitely willing to contribute toward getting a wand.
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I forgot to post this earlier:
Rescuing Martella was surely a triumph, and it seems to have restored some of the lost glory of Dignity's Barb and the Envoy Ring.
Dignity's Barb is now a +1 darkwood light crossbow thatreduces the miss chances from concealment by 10%. In addition, once per day when the weapon threatens a critical hit, the wielder can roll twice to confirm the critical hit and take the better result.
The Envoy Ring now allows the wearer to cast charm person (DC 15) and comprehend languages each once per day (CL 3rd).
Liam will not contribute anything from his share towards a wand of CLW at this time. He is happy to prep spells slots to heal, and use his channels. We can look into getting a wand when our stock of potions starts running low, but 13 is a LOT.
I think from what Brainiac said a wand will be less necessary in the second book - more spread out rather than the intense dungeon crawl that was the first book.
I don't have strong feelings about wands. I think they're useful (it's not like they go bad), but 13 potions is basically half a wand, so it might be worth just using them at this point in the assumption we'll be able to get wand(s) later. Obviously we've got less money at lower levels, so using that resource on other options can make sense.
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I'm going to try to divvy up things from what I can tell people want to try to move us along here. My general attitude is we'll try to dole out items fairly to keep us all around equal WBL but I prefer a less formal system to do that (I know some people like to total all the loot up, divide and then subtract claimed items from the claimant's share, but I figure we're all using the treasure to help each other in the end). Some of the assignments are just for who's holding what (like giving Liam the wand of create food and water, since that's not going to encumber him but there's no reason not to have it in case we suddenly need it). I gave Doritan some stuff to help him hide/be sneaky (the extra smokesticks, the wrist sheath); Bernal, Maya and Liam seem like they'd be the best to use the glass cutter, juggler's kit and healer's kit, respectively, but if you don't want them, I'd say just sell them on your own and pocket the gold. Obviously if people have some issues, please "shout" -- I'm trying to facilitate, not force allocations.
LIAM: Wand of create food and water (14 charges), scroll of breath of life, 2 potions of CLW, 1 potion of hide from animals, 2 smokesticks, 6 tindertwigs, healer's kit,
MAYA: silver raven figurine; scroll of summon monster II, 3 potions of CLW, Small +1 chain shirt, Small mwk rapier (Maya), 1 potion of hide from animals, 2 smokesticks, 6 tindertwigs, Small mwk dagger, juggler's kit
DORITAN: 3 potions of CLW, potion of bull's strength, 2 potions of hide from animals, 4 smokesticks, 6 tindertwigs, oil of keen edge, concealing pocket, disguise kit, wrist sheath, mwk short sword
BERNAL: mwk chain shirt, 2 potions of CLW, 1 potion of CMW, 1 potion of hide from animals, 2 smokesticks, 6 tindertwigs, glass cutter
KATRIA: mwk chain shirt, +1 rapier, scroll of invisibility, 3 potions of CLW, 1 flask of acid, 1 potion of hide from animals, 2 smokesticks, 6 tindertwigs
SELL (sell price is in parentheses):
Sustaining spoon (2,700 gp)
* 11 masterwork darts (1,350 gp)
* 6 daggers (+6 gp) (this includes 1 from Doritan)
* Lantern with continual flame (55 gp)
* portable alchemist's lab (37.5 gp)
* 4 mwk chain shirts (500 gp)
* 5 mwk short swords (775 gp)
* silver unholy symbols of Norgorber (75 gp)
* silver unholy symbol of Thamir Gixx (12.5 gp)
* Small mithral shirt (550 gp)
* 2 longswords (trading in from Maya and Katria) (15 gp)
* 942 gp, 25 sp
That gives us 7,020 gp and 5 sp total, or 1,404 gp each (plus 5 sp for someone).
Also, I realized I missed the noble's vigilant pillbox (could sell for 1,800 gp but I think it's worth keeping; doesn't look like it matters who holds on to it). I'm going to claim the +1 rapier for Katria so she's got a magic sword. For Doritan, I gave him a mwk short sword, as I think it'd be more cost effective to get that enchanted than to sell it and separately buy a +1 short sword.
Looks good to me, Katria. I figure this is a lot closer to how it would work IC, too.
I also have a +1 handaxe that I’ve been using that can be sold to help out and get everyone a couple hundred gp, though I’d obviously prefer to use it to pay for a new weapon (I’m a little short at the moment as it is). Someone else can take the dagger as well, as it’d be kind of ridiculous for my backup weapon to be more enchanted than my primary.
Are we going to play it where items previously claimed/bought by a character, when sold, keep all of their wealth with them? It seems like the best way to manage it- we’d only have to worry about dividing new stuff up and previously spent wealth stays with the person who has it.
This officially concludes book 1 of War of the Crown. As we prepare to move on to book 2, you will have a week of downtime in Oppara. Feel free to take care of whatever business you want to in the city and wrap up any plot threads you need to here, as the next adventure will leave Oppara behind.
You will now have the opportunity to engage in this adventure path's new subsystem: persona phases. The full rules for cultivating your persona can be found in this PDF: Agents of Change. I will add the link on the campaign info tab.
Bernal may start with 1 rank in Heroism. Doritan, Liam and Maya may each start with 1 rank in Subterfuge. Katria may start with 1 rank in Sacrifice.
Your first two persona phases take place during this week, in which you can socialize, spread rumors, or uncover truths in the background to grow your own power base, or dispatch these new agents to assist you. Either your agents will follow you to the next adventure's location, or you can have contacts in the area that you can put to use. Benefits of the second persona phase (and any effects from operations you assign your agents) will last until the end of the next social event.
I took a couple items from people's sheets (I think the dagger Doritan offered up and longswords from Maya and Katria that we claimed in the escape room), but otherwise, I think once it's on your sheet, it's easier to just be considered yours (I mean handing down rings of protection/cloaks of resistance when you get a better one is just common courtesy if someone else wants it, but otherwise...). If you sell it, you keep the proceeds. It also makes it easier instead of retroactively dealing with cash, like with the ax (which I'd say just sell yourself and use to enchant your new weapon).
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I'll check out the PDF ASAP, but am about to head out.
@Katria: Thanks! Liam is happy with his share of the spoils. And that is a lot more gold than I expected.
@DM: So Liam would have 1 rank in Sagacity from his Wisdom, and 1 rank in Subterfuge from his actions. Can he try the 'Give Lecture' action to boost his persona? It would be a stemwinding protest speech about the great people of Oppara, how they can be a force for good, resist this tyranny, and save Taldor. 'Give Lecture' requires a Knowledge check 'relevant to the lecture's topic'; he's got Local, Nobility, and Religion. Local is his best, if he can make that work.
He boosts his Sagacity rank to 2, and now has 6 agents? (Since he now has 3 total Facet Ranks).
Not sure about his second Persona Phase action yet.
Edit: Where it says "Consider allowing PCs to attempt relevant Craft, Perform, or Profession checks in place of the listed skill checks", Liam's Perform (Oratory) is fitting given his archetype, but has the same +8 bonus. Might be something to think about for my skill point allocation in the future. If he can routinely go back to 'Give Lecture' to boost his Sagacity, then he'll keep boosting Perform (Oratory).
Yes, that all seems correct, Liam. You can post about the speech in character or just handwave it in the background.
So Katria thus begins with Genius 1 and Sacrifice 1 (giving her four agents).
For her first phase, she'll try to improve her Genius rank by writing an academic paper (which I'm hoping can be her version of give lecture); I'll write up an in-character post later today/tomorrow.
That should increase her rank to 2 in Genius, giving her six agents now.
Like Liam, I still need to figure out my second persona phase action.
So do I have 1 rank in Charm thanks to my Cha? So I have 1 rank in Subterfuge and Charm now?
Going to spend this time undermining our opponents as Eutropia directs, aiming to improve my subterfuge aganst DC 19 first, then 21? There’s no real missions I’m interested in at the moment, so just going to build up my follower base to Rank 3.
And if I understand correctly, I have one point in Charm and Heroism.
I'm a bit busy right now, so I'll go over my options and post Bernal's Persona downtime activities tomorrow.
Liam will also try to boost his Sagacity rank to 3, with another inspiring lecture.
DC 21 is iffy, but that's why he has the Inspired trait - to roll twice and take the better on a skill check 1/day.
Now eight agents, and Sagacity rank 3. So until the next persona phase, he has a +2 to use on one Perception or Sense Motive check.
Alrighty, I had a chance to review the Agents of Change rules. It looks like Maya will have 1 rank of Charm in addition to her rank of Subterfuge.
I’ll have Maya attempt to organize a secret meeting for the first phase with disguise (so via Subterfuge). This will be a DC 19 check, which Maya will automatically succeed at using her Hat of Disguise and Perform (act) bonuses, not to mention her trait and Envoy ring bonuses.
For the second phase, I’ll have Maya attempt to organize a party. Should be DC 19 for this one as well.
I’ll roleplay the above actions in the gameplay thread a bit later.
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Thank you for organizing all the loot, Katria. That looks great.
As far as the wand goes, I’m okay if we don’t get one for now. Whatever gold Maya ends up getting, I’ll probably save toward a headband to boost her Charisma.
For some reason I can't remember there are five of us, so those 5 sp actually divide really nicely -- one for each of us.
Also, I recommend we get some area of effect items in case we run into swarms. (I noticed I only have a flask of acid, and AoE effects are not our specialty.)
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I have an AoE!
Granted, it's useless against vermin (that is, most) Swarms, but it's still an AoE.
...I just really wanted to say that because it makes me really happy that I can knock people out by scaring them enough and I think it's awesome.
Baby might be coming soon! We are heading to the hospital now. I will check in when I can.
Best wishes! Hope things go smoothly.
Best wishes!
Hurrah!
Maya, you can feel free to role play your background NPCs if you would like. After all, you created them, so you know them best. And I haven't tied them into any plot elements yet, but I will take over them if I choose to do so in the future.
A simple holy text of Erastil is 10 gp.
Also, I recommend we get some area of effect items in case we run into swarms. (I noticed I only have a flask of acid, and AoE effects are not our specialty.)
Good idea. I picked up some splash weapons (2 each of acid, alchemists' fire, and holy water) though my light load is now maxed out even with the upgrade to a MW backpack. I guess I don't need the bedroll and 2 days' rations all the time, but it's not like you can always choose when you have to go on the run. If I want more gear, I'll have to start prepping Ant Haul every day.
I can also keep a Sound Burst prepped - it's decent against swarms, casters, and rogues. PF does have an inordinate love of swarms.
She's here! Natalie Skye, born at 5:46 PM. 7 lb 2 oz, 20 inches long. Both mother and baby are doing well. :D
Waiting to see if Doritan or Katria want to make an in-game post about their persona phase activities before we begin the second book in the path.
Congrats! I’m so happy for you.
I’ll have a post up once I get back to my computer tonight.
Congrats! Glad to hear mother and baby are doing well.
That's great to hear!
Congratulations, GM! Take good care of the little thing!
First of all, congrats!
I do want to get an in-character post up, but probably won't get a chance until this afternoon (have one more hour with my wife before she leaves and want to spend it with her [she's just drying her hair now)]. I don't think it's something that can't be retconned, though, if you want to advance the game before then.
I'm also planning to try to get Kalbio's debt taken care of with a public entreaty. I was thinking that might boost my sacrifice persona (also to 2), but wasn't sure how to do it. I don't have any Heal skill right now. It could be similar to Drive Legislation, using Linguistics? Though I guess with that roll it doesn't really matter. :)
You can use Linguistics for that check Katria, though as you said, it's unsuccessful this time. You can try again during your next persona phase.
I have a bit of time now so I will post, and you can retroactively post about your persona actions.
As an example of what 300 gp could buy, for things that should travel relatively well:
Pavilion tent is 100 gp
A 60-lb wheel of cheese is 12 gp; add some honey (10 lbs for 10 gp) and nuts (about 30 lbs for 1 gp) to serve with it
A barrel of ale is 31 gallons (6.2 gp)
17 bottles of fine wine are 170 gp
A few sacks of coffee beans (20 lbs is 1 gp)
How's that for making a good impression? Too much? Not enough?
We should also have some of this stuff kept at the estate, for entertaining there. And of course buy from the locals when we entertain - for the stuff we can get in the countryside.
Now, I don't know the customs of the Jubilee. Would newly-arrived nobles set up a tent to introduce themselves? Is this going too off-script from what is expected? I know you said this book is a bit more sandboxy, but even so this could be too much minutiae if it is better just abstracted as "We spend X gold per month on entertaining."
The count is hosting the jubilee at the palace, and he is providing all the entertainment and provisions. Guests aren't expected to bring anything, though of course a nice gift will help you make a good first impression.
Later on, though, this stuff will be good when entertaining visiting nobles at your estate, and could give you circumstance bonuses towards interacting with and influencing them. And buying from the locals will help you win the loyalty of the common folk.
Ugh. So I was hoping to get my shopping list up tonight, but that doesn't seem to be happening.
Basically, though, the big thing is selling the handaxe and getting my sword upgraded to +1, then a few small items that I'm still mulling over.
I don't have many things I need to purchase, with a masterwork falcata and masterwork buckler being top priority, but I'm also currently figuring out what kind of non-combat oriented gear Bernal could use.
As far as the 300 gp, I don't think we had a chance to do that before we left -- Lady Martella didn't tell us about the mission until we were already on the road. I think we could certainly look into buying all that when we get there, but don't have knowledge to do so ahead of time.
GM, I've been picturing Katria with a chatelaine on her belt to hold some of her equipment, but there's no real game mechanics for that. Can I spend say 10 gp to get effectively 5 silver weapon cords that would hold items at my waist (as opposed to on my hand). I'm also wondering if there's something I can get for my crossbow -- I'd like to be able to let it go without it dropping on the ground, considering it is a relic and all. I'm thinking maybe a bandolier and a weapon cord, so it kind of swings back down around to my back/hip when I'm not using it?
(Oh, and I do want to have gotten 3 more bolts to replenish my supply to 10.)
As far as the 300 gp, I don't think we had a chance to do that before we left -- Lady Martella didn't tell us about the mission until we were already on the road. I think we could certainly look into buying all that when we get there, but don't have knowledge to do so ahead of time.
Yes, you are correct - I see that the message ahead of time was just to bring the right clothes. Perhaps we can send word to order some things from Oppara in the future.
You can have a chatelaine and a crossbow cord, Katria.
So, starting with 1,404.1 gp to spend
Selling the +1 handaxe and wrist sheath for 1,153.5 gp for a total of 2,557.6 gp
2,000 to upgrade the short sword to +1, 190 gp for a set of Concealable Thieves' tools, 10 gp for 10 bags of caltrops, 50 gp for a set of Vicious caltrops, 50 gp for a Contracting Rope, 200 gp for Sleeves of Many Garments, and that should be good for now, with 97.6 change.
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Hey hey! 1,000 posts! Congrats all!
Here's to a thousand more!
I realized I never picked my final spell. I think I'll go with blood biography, as that seems like it'd have the most use of the three options I was considering.
Waiting to see if Bernal is choosing to joust or influence people before I post.
Alright, guess everybody is on the trucco field. Doritan can roll one more check and Liam two more. I'll summarize all of the results later today when I have more time.
Sorry for the delay, had a busy weekend.
Just a comment from a reader; I love that Liam, a cleric of Milani, is afraid of Galt's history repeating itself, when the Red Revolution began as a religiously sanctioned effort led by Courage Heart, priestess of Milani. Advantages of hindsight, eh?
Didn't turn out so well for Courage Heart, did it?
I read up what I could about Milani. How could a saint of LN Aroden become a CG patron of rebellions - and yet remain close to LG Iomedae? (Liam's family started as clergy of Aroden, then switched to Iomedae when the Last Azlanti died.) And although Milani is the patron of Revolution, She is disgusted with the land that is in permanent revolt.
Not every Fire deity is saying "Burn it all!" and championing arson. In Liam's view, Milani sees Revolution as a tool, just as Sarenrae sees Fire. A tool that must be respected, directed, and constrained, but can be very helpful when applied properly. Out of control, it can do great harm.
Liam believes that Milani would support the establishment of a LG or NG nation, with a code of laws to constrain government power and ensure freedom. His dream scenario is that Taldor becomes Andoran, his nightmare is that it becomes Galt, and his actual goal is incremental reform and laying the groundwork for bigger changes.
Man, I hope that works. I rarely play casters because I tend to hoard my resources too much, so I'm trying really hard not to do that with Katria. :) I'm really excited especially because that just barely reached and was the only option I had to take real action this turn.
Hello everyone! Posting to inform you that, just in time for the boards' return from the dead, I'll be traveling abroad until September 5th. I will try to check in when possible, but expect to hear less from me.
Along those lines, I'm off to New York tomorrow. I however am more thoughtful of everyone else, so only will be gone Sunday to Monday afternoon (have a fun trip, Bernal). ;)
Since everyone else is posting travel plans, I suppose I may as well mention that I’m sitting bored on a 6-hour layover in Chicago. It will in no way affect my posting, and would be more likely to temporarily boost how often I’m posting than anything.
:D