Hello! I'm mainly making this post to share a little bit of an idea I have with the Starfinder community, and hopefully with Paizo as well if anyone within Paizo happens to see this.
So, as any good sci-fi universe does, Starfinder has a lot of alien species in its universe. Starfinder first edition had more simple rules that allowed for easy creation of playable ancestries that had short and simplistic stat blocks. But translating Starfinder's universe into the Pathfinder Second Edition rule set makes adapting a lot of the playable ancestries from first edition difficult.
Which is somewhat where my idea comes into play. My main idea was to have some sort of Pact Worlds Ancestry Guide of sorts that compiles all the rules for pre-existing ancestries in Starfinder Second Edition that are native to the Pact Worlds but only present in stuff like adventure paths and not major rule expansions (so for example Ikeshti, Shobhads, and Elebrians, but not Contemplatives, Sarcesians, and Astrazoans).
And in addition to having the ones found only in adventure paths, it could also introduce some new and updated ancestries for Starfinder Second Edition that are native to the pact worlds. Some new ones would include things like Formians, Urogs, Ryphorians, Verthani, SROs, and similar Pact Worlds native ancestries.
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Starfinder Galactic Ancestries comes out at the beginning of April. It has 21 ancestry options, not sure if that's 21 ancestries or also includes versatile heritage and Starfinder heritages for PF2e ancestries. I suspect this will be the most ancestries we get at one time in SF2e
Starfinder Absalom Station comes out around August. Has one SF1e ancestry and one new ancestry.
Starfinder Galactic Ancestries comes out at the beginning of April. It has 21 ancestry options, not sure if that's 21 ancestries or also includes versatile heritage and Starfinder heritages for PF2e ancestries. I suspect this will be the most ancestries we get at one time in SF2e
Starfinder Absalom Station comes out around August. Has one SF1e ancestry and one new ancestry.
Ah I see, I had no clue that those were even a thing. I never saw anything about that on this website, maybe it's just because I'm on mobile. Do you know if it will be including content for/from pre-existing ancestries that are in other books already?
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It may include some from PF2, but as far as I can tell they are not planning on reprinting the ancestries released from other SF2 sources in Galactic Ancestries.
Other SF2 sources already available include:
Galaxy Guide:
Astrazoan
Contemplative
Dragonkin
Kalo
Sarcesian
Vlaka
Murder in Metal City:
Khizar
Guilt of the Grave World:
Elebrian
Corpse Folk (versatile heritage)
Starfinder Society 2 Players Guide 2025
Ikeshti
Shobad
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Ah I see, I had no clue that those were even a thing. I never saw anything about that on this website, maybe it's just because I'm on mobile. Do you know if it will be including content for/from pre-existing ancestries that are in other books already?Starfinder Galactic Ancestries comes out at the beginning of April. It has 21 ancestry options, not sure if that's 21 ancestries or also includes versatile heritage and Starfinder heritages for PF2e ancestries. I suspect this will be the most ancestries we get at one time in SF2e
Starfinder Absalom Station comes out around August. Has one SF1e ancestry and one new ancestry.
Galactic Ancestries was announced a while ago, but the Absalom Station book was just announced on Friday on the Paizo Live stream. Oddly, the Absalom Station book has a product page already, but it's not listed on the Starfinder Release Schedule.
The Stafinder developers, well over a year ago, has said the goal was to put out new ancestries as frequently as possible, usually 2 per AP or Book. The Galaxy Guide and Galactic Ancestries are the exceptions to try to get more ancestries into SF2e quickly. I don't expect Paizo to be republishing ancestries already published in SF2e, since that list will change frequently, and would take away time from working on new material for the game.
Meanwhile, all the ancestries are or will be in the Archive of Nethys.
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Ah I see, I had no clue that those were even a thing. I never saw anything about that on this website, maybe it's just because I'm on mobile. Do you know if it will be including content for/from pre-existing ancestries that are in other books already?Starfinder Galactic Ancestries comes out at the beginning of April. It has 21 ancestry options, not sure if that's 21 ancestries or also includes versatile heritage and Starfinder heritages for PF2e ancestries. I suspect this will be the most ancestries we get at one time in SF2e
Starfinder Absalom Station comes out around August. Has one SF1e ancestry and one new ancestry.
The cover features a goblin (so space goblin heritage would likely come), a bantrid, and an Izalguun.
Additionally, Formians, moonflower leshies, Azrinarans (Void Elves, formerly drow, likely an elf heritage), and a playable ooze people are confirmed,
I think it's safe to assume at least the Pathfinder core races, Elf, Orc, Leshy, Halfling, and Gnome would be included.
Oh, well in that case, I most definitely will be purchasing that book upon it's release. One of the main ancestries I wanted added to 2e was formians, and I had no idea formians were confirmed.
I've liked formians since 1e, I wish they had been given more lore. In most books in 1e formian lore and history seemed entirely nonexistent aside from a few specific events, and I've always wondered what's up with the formians. They used to be always overshadowed by the lashunta.|
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I've liked formians since 1e, I wish they had been given more lore. In most books in 1e formian lore and history seemed entirely nonexistent aside from a few specific events, and I've always wondered what's up with the formians. They used to be always overshadowed by the lashunta.
Are you referring to PF1e or SF1e? Formians originated in PF1e. In SF1e, they are in the book Interstellar Species, which gave each playable species in it 4 pages, most of which is lore.
Erm, ackschualualy. Formians originated as a D&D creature.
Though that's probably why the lore is sparce. I have a similar issue where bugbears have very little Golarion lore, and it urks me, because I've been curious to see what it'd be like if they got the goblin/hobgoblin treatment.
I think the lore/art/descriptions are different enough for formians to not be an issue. Basically the word formian would basically mean ant like so pretty generic.
I'm feeling the autism today so here's a list of the SF1e races native to the Pact Worlds system that haven't been added to either game's 2e or confirmed for Galactic Ancestries:
•Anassanoi (The Sun; Not technically native but I think they've been there for a while)
•Dirindi (Arkanen)
•Giants (Golarion; might be complicated lorewise by thr existence of Jotunborn)
•Haan (Bretheda)
•Kanabo (Golarion; basically Hobgoblin Hungerseed)
•Maraquoi (Marata)
•Nuar (Golarion; will probably be folded into Minotaurs)
•Ryphorians (Triaxus)
•Sazarons (Arkanen)
•SRO (Everywhere; confirmed for tech book I think)
•Trox (Nchak)
•Urogs (Dykon)
•Varculaks (Versatile Heritage material but lore suggests the phenomenon originated on Golarion)
•Verthani (Verces; also confirmed for tech book I think)
•Witchwyrds (Golarion; also not native but they've definitely been around)
•Xulgaths (Golarion)
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I'm feeling the autism today so here's a list of the SF1e races native to the Pact Worlds system that haven't been added to either game's 2e or confirmed for Galactic Ancestries:
•Anassanoi (The Sun; Not technically native but I think they've been there for a while)
•Dirindi (Arkanen)
•Giants (Golarion; might be complicated lorewise by thr existence of Jotunborn)
•Haan (Bretheda)
•Kanabo (Golarion; basically Hobgoblin Hungerseed)
•Maraquoi (Marata)
•Nuar (Golarion; will probably be folded into Minotaurs)
•Ryphorians (Triaxus)
•Sazarons (Arkanen)
•SRO (Everywhere; confirmed for tech book I think)
•Trox (Nchak)
•Urogs (Dykon)
•Varculaks (Versatile Heritage material but lore suggests the phenomenon originated on Golarion)
•Verthani (Verces; also confirmed for tech book I think)
•Witchwyrds (Golarion; also not native but they've definitely been around)
•Xulgaths (Golarion)
Nuar will be in Absalom Station, along with Gnarefuroids.
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I'm courious to see how the Gnarefuroids turn out like, although they first appeared in Mechageddon! as a creature, I think it's the first new ancestry that hasn't been playable before. I'm wondering what size they will be since the ones in Mechageddon! are gargantuan, I'm assuming they will be large. But it will be nice to have a new ancestry that can't be compared to SF1e or Pathfinder ancestries.
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My understanding is the main reason with bugbears not getting much attention is simply that there isn't anyone in Paizo who cares a lot about them.
Watching the STF Conline, and apparently Breneris (the otter folk), Dwarves, Elves, Novians (mini suns?), Talphi (A molefolk on Vesk 4), and Orocorans are confirmed for Galactic Ancestries. Poppets are confirmed NOT there.
Greys are explained to be "Not yet, but popular." Which if some of you remember a few old threads about the greys, makes me wonder if they'll be getting an Ikeshti-style thematic makeover. They said they wanted to focus on alien species that are more uniquely Starfinder first, though.
I don't know what people were saying about the ayy lmaos, but the approach I was thinking of was to highlight the existence of grey exiles who'd had their memories erased. That way we could have a plausible origin story for grey PCs while still keeping their society and motives under wraps for later.
Also, in my list above I realized I forgot uplifted bears. I'm wondering whether they'll be folded into awakened animals or remain their own thing.
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Watching the STF Conline, and apparently Breneris (the otter folk), Dwarves, Elves, Novians (mini suns?), Talphi (A molefolk on Vesk 4), and Orocorans are confirmed for Galactic Ancestries. Poppets are confirmed NOT there.
Greys are explained to be "Not yet, but popular." Which if some of you remember a few old threads about the greys, makes me wonder if they'll be getting an Ikeshti-style thematic makeover. They said they wanted to focus on alien species that are more uniquely Starfinder first, though.
Funny thing about poppets is basically SRO could easily be Poppets of SF2. Your animated transformer robot toy gains a soul and becomes an SRO.
I'd imagine they'd be folded into awakened animals. As for Greys, the big problem with greys is they had the Ikeshti problem of being a bit uncomfortable in theme at times. And as a result, there was a period where Paizo said they were unlikely to come back. So making them a more acceptable brand of evil will likely be their due.
Was there some reveal about their motives I'm not aware of or are alien abductions off-limits now?
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No reveals were needed, all information that was problematic could already be found in the Alien Archive entry featuring them.
More info of this old conversation can basically be found in this old thread
But essentially, an old Discord post from devs insinuated that greys had a real chance of being cut, especially since at the time, reptoids were confirmed cut, and Ikeshti's had retcons applied to their lore. So we were expecting greys would either be cut or get the Ikeshti treatment.
I just want to point out that the thread linked to had several posts removed by Paizo, so the first post in that thread is not the OP.
No reveals were needed, all information that was problematic could already be found in the Alien Archive entry featuring them.
More info of this old conversation can basically be found in this old thread
But essentially, an old Discord post from devs insinuated that greys had a real chance of being cut, especially since at the time, reptoids were confirmed cut, and Ikeshti's had retcons applied to their lore. So we were expecting greys would either be cut or get the Ikeshti treatment.
I see. Comparing alien abductions to SA seems like a massive stretch to me, but knowing how the writers are, to die on that hill is to die in vain.
I wonder how Space Goblins will be handled. Now that 2e has ancestries and heritages instead of races and subraces, I could see Space Goblins going either way. They could be either a whole new ancestry, with Space themed heritages, or just a single heritage for the existing goblins. Them being a bit taller and more intelligent already makes them similar to hobgoblins as well, so either way I doubt there'd be room for a Space Hobgob. It would be kinda funny if the 2E debut of bugbears as a player option was in a SF book instead of a PF book.
Hobgoblins and Space Goblins are still very distinct. Space Goblins continue their goblin-y antics but IN SPAAAACE, while Hobgoblins have two civilizations in Near Space (with a fair number of Space Goblin Citizens, admittedly)- The Gideron Authority and Marixah Republic, which are on the brink of war with each other.
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Every time I read gideron authority my brain wants to read it as the gridiron authority. I picture hobgoblins with football gear on but in SPAAAACCEEE.