Where’s Socothbenoth?

[Eeveegirl1206]

I have a weird fascination for him and find it strange that he was never mentioned what so over in Second edition.

He is Nocticula‘a brother and used to be her closest ally before he stupidly decided to attack his sister who was known for killing her fellow demon lords.

It seems that he wasn’t mentioned in the WOTG or Divine Mystery books that where otherwise very through of mentioning every divinity in Pathfinder but left out the Silken Sin.

Heck he was mention in the first Bestiary.

He had this very interesting plot line of allying with Hell to get protection from his sister.

It doesn’t seem like he was removed from cannon as he showed up in the Owlcat WOTR game.

[James Jacobs]

He's still out there, but we just haven't done much expansion of him and his lore at all in 2nd edition. In large part because of the content associated with him—he's a pretty "mature audiences only" sort of villain who doesn't lend himself well to the types of adventures and stories we've been focusing on in 2nd edition.

[Eeveegirl1206]

I’d really like to see how his allegiance with Belial is going on.

[Virellius]

I love the idea of him becoming a Malebranche and leaning into the devilish seduction themes. Maybe even seeing a Socothbenoth as patron of a returned Zanderghul to parallel Sorshen and Nocticula? I imagine Socothbenoth is pretty prideful...

Also, I wouldn't take Divine Mysteries as a list of ALL of them. The Kyton Demagogues, I believe the Rakshasa and Oni deities, and several other groups were not included either. It WOULD be cool to see an expanded-expanded pdf with ALL of them, for people who want to worship or fight them.

[James Jacobs]

Can confirm: Divine Mysteries doesn't list ALL of the deities. There's plenty still out there beyond those ones.

[Simeon]

Virellius wrote:

Also, I wouldn't take Divine Mysteries as a list of ALL of them. The Kyton Demagogues, I believe the Rakshasa and Oni deities, and several other groups were not included either. It WOULD be cool to see an expanded-expanded pdf with ALL of them, for people who want to worship or fight them.

That, or some hypothetical Divine Apocrypha book way in the future that gives us even more gods.

[Eeveegirl1206]

James Jacobs wrote:

He's still out there, but we just haven't done much expansion of him and his lore at all in 2nd edition. In large part because of the content associated with him—he's a pretty "mature audiences only" sort of villain who doesn't lend himself well to the types of adventures and stories we've been focusing on in 2nd edition.

I understand that James. He is basically some hentai villain. Whose entire deal is breaking the taboos of established moral behavior means that even mentioning him in a work is a easy way to get people uncomfortable.