Blindsight / Tremorsense


Rules Questions


Does blindsight and termonsense bypass displacement ????

Liberty's Edge

Blinsight wrote:
Invisibility, darkness, and most kinds of concealment are irrelevant, though a creature with blindsight must have line of effect to an object or another creature to discern that object or creature.

It bypasses concealment unless the specific form of concealment says otherwise. Displacement is a form of concealment.

Tremorsense wrote:
The creature is sensitive to vibrations in the ground and can automatically pinpoint the location of anything that is in contact with the ground.

Tremorsense only pinpoints the square of the creature, so displacement is fully effective.


Diego Rossi wrote:
Blinsight wrote:


fnaf 1 said:
Tremorsense only pinpoints the square of the creature, so displacement is fully effective.

I don't think so. It might just be the theory of relativity.


DumbleJum wrote:
Diego Rossi wrote:
Blinsight wrote:


fnaf 1 said:
Tremorsense only pinpoints the square of the creature, so displacement is fully effective.
I don't think so. It might just be the theory of relativity.

Diego is correct on this.

Consider for example invisibility. If you know the target square the invisible creature is in, you can attack them (or rather you can attack the square they are in), but you still suffer the 50% miss chance.

Pinpointing a creatures location (aka tremorsense) only tells you what 5' square(s) they occupy. It does not grant you anything beyond that.

Blindsight negates all penalties based on (lack of) sight. As displacement is a sight based effect, blindsight negates it.

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