So, other ancestries can be half-elf or aiuvarin. And ‘elf atavism’ is still a thing. And it calls out that you can’t use it to grab Ancient Elf unless your base ancestry can be centuries old. So … a dwarf could pick it up, right? Asking for some theorybuilding cheese that’s been fermenting (and also trying to imagine a player trying to do this with a goblin aiuvarin) …
The remastered "lifespan measured in centuries" thing in Elf Atavism I think addresses, at least partially, the concerns and clarifications from the original printings about Ancient Elf:
I would say that Dwarves' and Gnomes' lifespans are "measured in centuries," as they are typically described as living 300 or 400+ years, so I would allow them to take Elf Atavism - Ancient Elf. Goblins, Orcs and Humans, however, are described as not living over a century, so I would not allow it for them.
I believe Leshies would qualify as they don't age.
Races with a typical lifespan between 100 and 200 years, such as Halflings and Lizardfolk, present a bit of a grey area, but I would say that it doesn't qualify as a "lifespan measured in centuries." Other people have disagreed on other forums, however.
At the end of the day, I think they did leave some space in the remaster to allow for Elf Atavism- Ancient Elf, but the fact that they tied it to something relatively nebulous such as "lifespan measured in centuries" leaves it up to a table-by-table interpretation. I wonder if PFS has updated its stance on it. It's also somewhat of a contentious issue because it is a very appealing feat selection for people who want to optimize for an early multiclass archetype.
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Elf Atavism says: "For example, you couldn’t take the Ancient Elf heritage unless your non-elf ancestry also has a lifespan measured in multiple centuries", so any ancestry that can typically live 200 years or longer should be fine. On top of that, an Ancient Elf should be at least 100 years old.
Out of all the Player Core ancestries:
Dwarves typically live around 350 years, so an Ancient Elf Dwarf would be only 1/3 through their life.
Gnomes can live forever if they can avoid Bleaching, but most make it to 400 years.
Halflings typically live to around 150, so in my opinion not long enough.
Goblins can only really live up to 50 years, assuming they don't blow themselves up, so there's no way they could live 100 years, let alone 200.
While not impossible, it's extremely rare that a Human can live that long, they typically live to their 90s.
Orcs only live to their 60s, 2/3 the lifespan of Humans.
Leshies don't age, but also they are a created creature and technically can't have "elven blood" in them. I know it's not restricted via the rules, but it just doesn't make sense to me. However, RAW they can get the heritage.
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Elf Atavism says: "For example, you couldn’t take the Ancient Elf heritage unless your non-elf ancestry also has a lifespan measured in multiple centuries", so any ancestry that can typically live 200 years or longer should be fine. On top of that, an Ancient Elf should be at least 100 years old.
Out of all the Player Core ancestries:
Dwarves typically live around 350 years, so an Ancient Elf Dwarf would be only 1/3 through their life.
Gnomes can live forever if they can avoid Bleaching, but most make it to 400 years.
Halflings typically live to around 150, so in my opinion not long enough.
Goblins can only really live up to 50 years, assuming they don't blow themselves up, so there's no way they could live 100 years, let alone 200.
While not impossible, it's extremely rare that a Human can live that long, they typically live to their 90s.
Orcs only live to their 60s, 2/3 the lifespan of Humans.
Leshies don't age, but also they are a created creature and technically can't have "elven blood" in them. I know it's not restricted via the rules, but it just doesn't make sense to me. However, RAW they can get the heritage.
Ancient Elf Skeleton FTW.
