Divine Fighting Technique Clarification

[Ragex]

"Any adventurer can learn a divine fighting technique by taking the Divine Fighting Technique feat. A cleric, inquisitor, or warpriest who worships a deity can always choose to give up either the first power of one of her domains or a minor blessing benefit to gain access to that god’s divine fighting technique without having to meet the Divine Fighting Techniques technique’s prerequisites (including the Divine Fighting Technique feat). In addition, a warpriest can always give up a major blessing to gain the advanced benefit without meeting its prerequisite. In a few cases, other classes can gain the benefits by sacrificing class features, as noted in the appropriate divine fighting techniques."

I don't understand if i have to spend a feat or not for have the benefit of Divine Fighting Technique if i give up both minor and major blessing as Warpriest that worships the appropriate deity.

For example Greatsword Battler, dont have any prerequisite, so what would change if i give up the Warpriest minor blessing?
Or if I'm A chaotic neutral barbarian or fighter who worships such a god, I can replace a bonus feat or rage power with the initial benefit. Do that mean i have to spend 1 feat for pick Divine Fighting Technique Feat + 1 fighter bonus feat or 1 rage power just for have the initial benefit?
Or if i give up blessing or Fighter bonus feat or rage power i get automatically the Divine Fighting Technique feat without spend a feat for pick it?

Sorry for my bad English, I hope you understood what I mean.

[Mysterious Stranger]

Divine Fighting technique has a prerequisite of same alignment as your deity. A cleric, inquisitor, or warpriest can be within one step of their deity’s alignment. A cleric, inquisitor or warpriest who sacrifices the appropriate class feature can be within one step of his deity’s alignment.

When you give up the class feature you gain the benefit of the feat without having to take it. So, the warpriest giving up both the minor and major blessing would gain the benefit of both the initial benefit and the advanced benefit without needing to spend a feat. A warpriest could give up a greater blessing to gain the advanced benefit without having to have the initial benefit. Warpriests get their major blessing at 10th level so they cannot gain the advanced benefit before that. You cannot give up the major blessing before the character gains it.

[Ragex]

Mysterious Stranger wrote:

Divine Fighting technique has a prerequisite of same alignment as your deity. A cleric, inquisitor, or warpriest can be within one step of their deity’s alignment. A cleric, inquisitor or warpriest who sacrifices the appropriate class feature can be within one step of his deity’s alignment.

When you give up the class feature you gain the benefit of the feat without having to take it. So, the warpriest giving up both the minor and major blessing would gain the benefit of both the initial benefit and the advanced benefit without needing to spend a feat. A warpriest could give up a greater blessing to gain the advanced benefit without having to have the initial benefit. Warpriests get their major blessing at 10th level so they cannot gain the advanced benefit before that. You cannot give up the major blessing before the character gains it.

Thanks so much for the clarification, I thought it was a little too expensive if in addition to having to sacrifice class ability I also had to spend 1 feat, but I wanted to be sure.

[Derklord]

Ragex wrote:

I don't understand if i have to spend a feat or not for have the benefit of Divine Fighting Technique if i give up both minor and major blessing as Warpriest that worships the appropriate deity.

When you select the feat, you gain access to one, full divine fighting technique (DFT), including the advanced benefit if you fulfill the advanced prerequisites. The option of replacing a class feature with a specific benefits gives you the respective benefit, and it explicitly says you don't need to fulfill the prerequisites. Replacing a class feature for the initial benefit does not give you the feat, which means you don't qualify for the advanced benefits (as those always ask for the feat). The option to gain the advanced benefits for replacement of a class feature is seperate from both replacing a class feature to gain the initial benefit and from the feat, which means you can do that without having the initial benefit, and could also do that even if you actually have the feat (to ignore the prereqs of the advanced benefits).

Note that the actual version of the feat has a specific deity for each DFT, you can see the deities and the proper DFT names here. Greatsword Battler for example is called "Gorum’s Swordsmanship", and requires you to worships Gorum.

Mysterious Stranger wrote:

Divine Fighting technique has a prerequisite of same alignment as your deity.

This is not entirely correct. There are two versions of the feat, and they work differently:
• The version of the feat in Weapon Master's Handbook asks for "Same alignment as chosen deity.", but does not actually requires you to worship said deity. ("Although each deity’s divine fighting technique is primarily preserved and passed on by her faithful, worship is not required to learn one." WMH pg. 10)
• The version in the later released Divine Anthology asks for "Must worship a single patron deity that has an established divine fighting technique.", but doesn't require the same alignment.

The way I would handle it is to keep the feats seperate, i.e. for a divine fighting technique that appeared in WMH (Asmodeus, Desna, Erastil, Irori, Lamashtu, Norgorber, Rovagug, Sarenrae, Torag, Urgathoa), you need to the same alignment, for one from DA (Abadar, Calistria, Cayden Cailean, Gorum, Iomedae, Zon-Kuthon), you need to worship the deity.