Additional Ikon: clarification needed


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Many feats and abilities state something like "your body ikon gains the following:"

How do these intersect with having multiple ikons of the same type? Do all of them get the bonus? Do you have to pick one?


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Any body ikon you have would gain the ability when it has your divine spark resting in it. But even if you have two body ikons, you can only have your spark resting inside one at a time.


Xenocrat wrote:
Any body ikon you have would gain the ability when it has your divine spark resting in it. But even if you have two body ikons, you can only have your spark resting inside one at a time.

Right, but if you have a feat that enhances "your body ikon", do you get the benefit if either is active? Or only if a specific one is active?


Either.


Is this the same case for Ikon feats? Since a lot of them are defined by type, if I have two weapon ikons and they both do slashing can I use Motionless Cutter with both?

Also additional question with some abilities (like Motionless Cutter) if the weapon is versatile can I use the other damage type or must I specifically use Slashing?

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thatdamncat789 wrote:

Is this the same case for Ikon feats? Since a lot of them are defined by type, if I have two weapon ikons and they both do slashing can I use Motionless Cutter with both?

Also additional question with some abilities (like Motionless Cutter) if the weapon is versatile can I use the other damage type or must I specifically use Slashing?

I'd assume since you can only have 1 Immanence active at a time, that it just opens your pool from 3 Ikons to 4 Ikons. You aren't choosing which category your Immanence occupies, you are choosing which specific Item is occupied by your Immanence.

Ex. If you have two weapon Ikons (Spear and dagger) and you want to use 4th lvl Hurl at the Horizon. You could use it on both weapons but the spear would have a 30 ft range and the dagger would have a 20 ft thrown range. So one round you strike from 30 ft with the spear, Strike at a foe next to you, use barrow's edge with the spear. Next round your Immanence was shifted to the dagger so you throw at a target 20 ft away (say it has a returning rune), transcend Gleaming Blade with the dagger at a mook that snuck up on you last turn.

Your example of Motionless Cutter would work if both of your ikons deal slashing damage. So in the weapon examples of spear and dagger only the dagger would be able to use the motionless cutter feat. In the case of Motionless cutter you would have to deal Slashing damage to use it. It's pretty unambiguous as far as RAW versus RAI. If you used Piercing damage and try to activate Motionless Cutter, well.... piercing weapons don't cut it.

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