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As far as i know missing sleep causes fatigue or exhaustion. As lame oracle is immune to fatigue at lev5 and immune to exhaustion at lev 15, lame oracle wouldnt need to sleep anymore. Correct?
Except to regain any class ability (such as spells). Since spells and uses-per-day abilities require rest to recharge, I'd imagine they'd do so anyway barring some rather extreme circumstances. Then again, I guess relaxing is good enough to count as "resting" for those purposes.
Fun fact: By RAW there is no direct penalty for not sleeping. It is just an accepted house rule that not sleeping causes fatigue.
Speaking of sleep, I should probably get some.
Only arcanists need actual rest. Others just need to wait until the next day.
"A divine spellcaster chooses and prepares spells ahead of time, but unlike a wizard, does not require a period of rest to prepare spells."
Depends on what your GM thinks.
Personally, I'd require all mortals to sleep. You might not become physically fatigued, but you still need that sleep to sort out your mind. Mortals aren't meant to go without sleep for long periods of time.
I'd probably have a mortal character who goes without sleep (whether with magic or abilities like this) slowly lose his mind.
And yeah, there are no rules in the books that say you need to sleep, but remember when you tell your GM that, that he might find out that there are no rules against using monsters whose CR is 10 or more above the party level, either.... ;-P
And yeah, there are no rules in the books that say you need to sleep..
Or for that matter, for the joys of voiding ones bowls after a hot spicey curry..
...nor the resulting Ring of Flaming.
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O_o OT: What the strange jester said: Your body might not need to rest but your mind most probably will...
...there's only such much perceptual noise we can assimilate, both consciously and unconsciously, before things get..
..bad.
Waking dreams anyone?
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To support this further your DM might point out how the Lame curse is a physical flaw that eventually grants physical bonuses while sleeping disorders tend to have both physical and mental components.
Of course, you could then counter that many physical disorders begin and end with the mind..
...then there'd be, like, a long chat about psychosomatic effects...
...and then, well, ppsssssh, more beer?
Mortals aren't meant to go without sleep, but then, mortals aren't meant to fall from cliffs, get swallowed whole by giant plant monsters, get bitten by vampires, or outright die, and those are all relatively easily curable in D&D.
Really, what's the worst a character could do if they manage to avoid sleep altogether? Keep watch all night when the party's out adventuring? Hardly seems like something that would break the game.
[qutoe=SRD]Humanoids breathe, eat, and sleep.
Since the RAW does not spell out what the consequences of not sleeping are, any consequences are entirely up to the DM (or there are none at all). Being immune to fatigue would certainly protect you against that side effect, but no other effects. (One of which, IRL, is insanity)
O_o OT: What the strange jester said: Your body might not need to rest but your mind most probably will......there's only such much perceptual noise we can assimilate, both consciously and unconsciously, before things get..
..bad.
Bad. Yes, you can say that. Frikking weird might fit better.
Have I told you guys of the reasons why I don't do whole weekends playing computer games without sleeping any more?
There were a couple of instances, from years back when I still went to LAN parties.
The first one was a private affair (or semi-private, as there were friends and friends' friends and so on, but it was by invitation only and there was no fee or anything) in some old house one guy had on his (family's) premises. He had to do some cable laying before we could start, and the toilet wouldn't flush (so it was only for number one, everything else you had to use facilities elsewhere).
We started on Friday, and while there were a couple of rooms where you could crash with your sleeping gear, I thought sleeping was for pussies. After all, I had copious amounts of coca cola (more or less the only thing I consumed at that weekend) to keep me awake.
At that weekend, we mostly played team fortress (yes, the old quake mod), team fortress classic (not all the time, though, because not everyone had a computer that could handle half-life) and a bit counter-strike I think (not sure, though). If you know any of the team fortress games, you know the snipers have that little dot where they aim, just like those laser pointers (that were all the rage back then).
I think it was around my 36 consecutive waking hour when things got... weird. When I had to go downstairs to pee, I snuck there, so the other team wouldn't hear my steps, and I watched the shadow for lurkers. I swear to you, if anyone had had one of those red dot laser toys and used it on the wall in front of me, I'd probably have jumped over the handrail to avoid a headshot.
I finally decided to get some sleep (after about 40 hours awake), saw that the whole chamber was full of sleeping people, woke the bastard who had my blankets and pillow, took the stuff, and went into my car to sleep. (I remember that Golf II was a good car for sleeping in).
The other thing was a commercial lan party with over 100 participants in a school's gym. Again, I did not intent to sleep at all at the weekend (I was young, I thought I was fit enough to do without that pesky sleep stuff for a couple of days, I didn't want to leave my computer unsupervised while going to sleep, and I didn't want to waste any time sleeping, since it could be put to better use playing games with fantastic pings, or downloading stuff with fantastic speeds.
Somewhere around 3am Saturday-Sunday night, they had a Half-Life tournament. I normally was quite good at that game - it was basically all we played many a weekend in our own private LAN parties.
I didn't even make the preliminary round, as my reaction times couldn't have been worse had I mailed my keystrokes in. So I decided that I'd give this sleep thing a try. Of course, I never packed any sleeping gear, and I still didn't want to leave my PC unguarded, so I packed my stuff into my car and drove home.
Luckily it was literally the dead of night, it was not that far, and it was all driving to villages. I think I didn't see a single other car on the road. Which was quite lucky. Because I did see this enormous white moose/stag.
After slamming on the brakes, I realised it wasn't a stag at all. It was just fog. At that time I continued to drive home very, very slowly and carefully (as I said, there was literally nothing going on on the streeds, and I'm ashamed to say that I probably wasn't able to think too clearly at that point, anyway), got home, just put the PC into the house in a corner (didn't want to leave it in the car) and slept for I don't know how long.
After that I swore that I'd never again drive around after 42 or so hours awake, and haven't done such a waking marathon again at all I think.
I think what I want to say is don't underestimate that sleep thing. And beware the white moostags.
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Man, I've seen people start seeing things that didn't have *any* real-world analog after a while. One guy I know in college went about 70 hours without sleep.
Death is around the 2 week mark, IIRC.
That said, you could argue that even the mental effects are a consequence of the physical fatigue wearing on the brain. Mental and physical fatigue are (in my experience) linked (though probably not 1:1) so it seems a reasonable enough approximation.
In my games we use a spell point system that punishes fatigue by reducing the maximum quantity of spell points you can use on a spell safely. This hasn't come up yet, though oddly a 9-con wizard was barely able to use his 4th level spells at level 7 without causing fatigue, and only then because he had a con belt (con boosts the limit). An extremely high con/casting-stat character can nearly always cast their highest spells with reckless abandon. This has the unfortunate side-effect of making fatigue/exhaustion immunity better, though I don't think by enough to worry about it.
I think, if I were GM'ing this, I would include exponentially more difficult Fortitude saves to avoid Fatigue and then Exhaustion, starting after full wakefulness at night 2.
After that, ramping Will saves to avoid loss of abilities over the days. Then temporary Wisdom loss and bouts of insanity.