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I was just rereading Armory and noticed something shocking on page 72, where several of the book's suits of armor are illustrated: the drow modelling Night Plate I HAS A BEARD!
I thought elves and their evolutionary cousins couldn't grow facial hair unless they had a non-elf parent, like a human or ryphorian. THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!
I think that's lore from a different setting, but I'm not 100% certain.
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I was just rereading Armory and noticed something shocking on page 72, where several of the book's suits of armor are illustrated: the drow modelling Night Plate I HAS A BEARD!
I thought elves and their evolutionary cousins couldn't grow facial hair unless they had a non-elf parent, like a human or ryphorian. THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!
With all the crazy biotech implants I am pretty sure if a drow boy or girl wants a beard they could make it happen.
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They cured Elvin Pattern Beardless centuries ago.
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Here's some gamer trivia for you: the original male drow, back in the days of Descent into the Depths of the Earth / Vault of the Drow, almost always had sideburns and mustaches. We're talking the big, luxuriant kinds of mustaches that you grow when you intend to fight crime, win the disco competition, or co-star in naughty films.
But even then, no beards.
For real?! Really really real?! O_o
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As the evil twins of elves how would you NOT expect goatees?
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Behold the mustache of peril!
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/lets-read-ad-d-2e-monstrous-compend ium-appendix-vol-ii.766602/page-18
Some (not all) males having facial hair was specified in the earliest monster descriptions. However, when the drow were borrowed for the Forgotten Realms (in, what, 1984? I think?) they appear to have lost this amazing superpower. In exchange, they seem to have gained the ability to make a lot of money for their publisher.
*jaw-drop*
It's TRUE! Now I absolutely NEED to make that renegade heating-engineer drow operative!
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OH. thats the confusion.
Thats not a mustache, he has a horrible caterpillar sniffing habit.
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Drow culture has vastly different standards with regards to same sex relationships; largely beards are unnecessary.
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Behold the mustache of peril!
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/lets-read-ad-d-2e-monstrous-compend ium-appendix-vol-ii.766602/page-18
Some (not all) males having facial hair was specified in the earliest monster descriptions. However, when the drow were borrowed for the Forgotten Realms (in, what, 1984? I think?) they appear to have lost this amazing superpower. In exchange, they seem to have gained the ability to make a lot of money for their publisher.
Like many grave sins, I lay this at the feet of Drizz't Do'Urden, much like turning rangers into dual wielding cheese monkeys.
In 1st Edition, Rangers didn't dual wield. They were archers and giant-killers.
Unearthed Arcana came out, and talked about rare good drow that could be rangers. Drow were ambidextrous, you see.
Salvatore writes The Crystal Shard, about one of these rare good drow rangers, who used two weapons at once. Because he is a drow.
Suddenly all rangers can dual wield.
Similarly, drow lost their awesome mustaches because Drizz't is such a bishonen pretty boy.
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Yeah, but I loved reading the series when I was little, and I'd probably love reading it again.
Still won't play a good drow though. That has been thoroughly ruined -- not by Salvatore, but by players.
Yeah, but I loved reading the series when I was little, and I'd probably love reading it again.
They're kinda garbage after the first trilogy.
The descriptions of Artemis & Drizz't's fights are very repetitive and the DRAMA is sometimes painful.
Also, I bought and read one of the books... and then later I bought the same book again BECAUSE I FORGOT I'D READ IT. It was just that cookie-cutter.
But... who am I to harsh someone's joy?
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Still won't play a good drow though. That has been thoroughly ruined -- not by Salvatore, but by players.
Well, MY good drow's pretty decent. She's a technomancer with the Star Knight archetype, and I'm playing her in a Dawn of Flame campaign on these very forums! She's LG, rather than CG like Drizzt, though. :3
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Still won't play a good drow though. That has been thoroughly ruined -- not by Salvatore, but by players.Well, MY good drow's pretty decent. She's a technomancer with the Star Knight archetype, and I'm playing her in a Dawn of Flame campaign on these very forums! She's LG, rather than CG like Drizzt, though. :3
If you didn't name her something entirely mundane with extra apostrophes thrown in, I will be extremely disappointed in you.
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If you didn't name her something entirely mundane with extra apostrophes thrown in, I will be extremely disappointed in you.Still won't play a good drow though. That has been thoroughly ruined -- not by Salvatore, but by players.Well, MY good drow's pretty decent. She's a technomancer with the Star Knight archetype, and I'm playing her in a Dawn of Flame campaign on these very forums! She's LG, rather than CG like Drizzt, though. :3
I'm sorry. The closest thing on that name is the hyphen in her title, Star-Knight. The rest is just plain ol' Belmarniss Rycast. Only her party members are allowed to call her Bel!
Any weird and inappropriate racial choice is fine if its played as an accurate Lawful Good. After all, the same demographic of players who ruin everything by playing endless bad Rebel Drow PCs and whatnot, also avoid playing accurate Lawful Good like the plague. ;)
I like that you had to clarify it as "accurate Lawful Good," because there are plenty of paladin players who look for every loophole to murder and rob throughout the land. "Goblins are listed as Evil in the Monster Manual, so it's okay that I slaughtered the goblin village and sold their children into slaver- I mean "got a finder's fee for integrating goblin orphans into an unpaid work internship program."
Now I kinda want to play a drow paladin who isn't actually reformed at all; just really talented at rules lawyering and PR.
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Dark Elves in Everquest2 have facial hair.
I'm a longtime Drow player. Usually female though, cause well EQ 1&2. My drow are never good aligned though, that would be silly.
And over on my bookshelf is the original Menzoberranzan box set, so...history.
Anyway, I clicked on this thread as a potential new Starfinder player and was excited that I could be a drow in SF...? Answer unclear...
Dark Elves in Everquest2 have facial hair.
I'm a longtime Drow player. Usually female though, cause well EQ 1&2. My drow are never good aligned though, that would be silly.
And over on my bookshelf is the original Menzoberranzan box set, so...history.Anyway, I clicked on this thread as a potential new Starfinder player and was excited that I could be a drow in SF...? Answer unclear...
They're a playable race. I assume they're also legal in Society play, but you might need a boon?
Intriguing! I will look into it further then. I've owned the rulebook for a couple years but have never opened it. So I'll get on that. Maybe play some intro scenarios at PaizoCon.
They're a playable race. I assume they're also legal in Society play, but you might need a boon?Dark Elves in Everquest2 have facial hair.
I'm a longtime Drow player. Usually female though, cause well EQ 1&2. My drow are never good aligned though, that would be silly.
And over on my bookshelf is the original Menzoberranzan box set, so...history.Anyway, I clicked on this thread as a potential new Starfinder player and was excited that I could be a drow in SF...? Answer unclear...
The core races (Android, Human, Kasatha, Lashunta, Shirren, Vesk, and Ysoki) and the legacy races (Dwarf, Elf, Halfing, Half-elf, Half-orc, Halfling, and Gnome) are legal to play without a boon. I believe Izalguun are being added to the list for story reasons as well.
So yeah, Drow need a boon to be playable.
So off topic but looking this up I noticed how on the next page a vesk & a shobhad standing next to each other as if they were the same size. I'm assuming that's either not to scale or there's some enlarge/reduce spells being thrown around because an average sized vesk would be about as short in comparison to an average sized shobhad as an average sized dwarf would look standing next to an average sized vesk.
Who he? (There's only two names you can assume everybody knows: Sherlock Holmes and Harry Houdini.)
Cirdan is an important background character in J.R.R. Tolkien's Legendarium. He's an elf who met the wizards on the shore as they arrived in middle earth from the Undying Lands. He recognized Gandalf as the best of them and gifted him one of the three rings forged for the elves, which he had previously kept.
He's also notable for being the only elf in Tolkien's work explicitly stated to have a beard; as I recall it had previously been stated or alluded to that elves are beardless but Tolkien either slipped up or changed his mind on that and determined that elves could have beards after reaching about eleven thousand years old or so.